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Title: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 17:44:22
Found a very nice classic turntable. A Thorens TD 320 MK III. 30 years old.

Not unusual....

BUT THE TABLE IS BRAND NEW IN HIS ORIGINAL BOX. NEVER USED!

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The price was unbelievable low. The TD 320 comes with a Stanton epoch II cartridge, factory assembling...

I am happy....

Rolf
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 February 2018, 17:46:14
What a fantastic find!

Remember those well ;)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: ronnyd on 26 February 2018, 17:48:01
Nice to hear from you again Rolf, how are things at your end? Looks a good buy, can,t beat the old heavy platters for good sound reproduction. :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: jimmy944 on 26 February 2018, 18:03:43
Before I opened this I thought it was going to be a thread about a Merc owned by some bloke called thoren.

Iím blaming the man-flu  ::)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 February 2018, 18:06:54
That is simply fantastic.. and worth a pretty penny at the moment, I'm sure. :-*
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2018, 18:08:49
I wonder if drivebelts will need renewing though...  ...and where to get them.


Good find though :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 26 February 2018, 18:10:56
WOW! Never mind the drivebelts, use knicker elastic if needs be, just use it and enjoy!  :y ;D 8)

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 18:20:07
Hi Lizzy

What is your story about Thorens? Mine is very special long....

Hi ronnyd

I am a little splitted these days. There are still serious problems with my wife's health. She is home again, but not in stable condition. I do my very best to help her in any way, but sometimes it is a very hard job for both of us.

The other side looks brighter. The last months gave me some commercial success, so i can think about some private investigations. A classic Thorens, a own garage (better two) and a MV6. Regarding the MV6 i think the Vauxhalls are very interesting, because of the prices in UK. I prefer an early model (late 93/ early 94) because I decided to get a H (historic) licence as soon as possible. A late 93 MV6 is able to get a German H-licence in autumn 2023. So, maybe i need some assistance later this year. I never bought a car in the UK....

Rolf
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: zirk on 26 February 2018, 18:27:24
I used to Work as an HiFi Engineer for Thorens / Ortofon moons ago before moving into the Companies Recording Studio as a Sound Engineer.  ;)

Still got my TD125 mkII and a fitted Ortofon M15E Super kicking around somewhere.  :)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: zirk on 26 February 2018, 18:32:13
That is simply fantastic.. and worth a pretty penny at the moment, I'm sure. :-*
Yep, sadly, as most things now, Thorens Decks are worth more in Spare Parts than whole, so there getting a bit thin on the ground these days.  :'(
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 18:35:21
I did the set up of the turntable yesterday and i was very surprised that the 30 year old belt works perfect. But there was a little noise from the motor bearings. But i knew the Berger motors...they are undestroyable. So i decided to start a 12h burn in run to remove the dust of the years. The turntable is now running absolutely calm. Also everything else runs perfect.

Rolf
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 26 February 2018, 18:37:17
If it weren't for the fuss and inconvenience, not to mention the hiss and pops, I would play some of my old vinyl via a Shure V15 III cartride and Lencolean wet cleaner.....

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 18:38:25
Hi Zirk

You need Thorens Spare parts? I have half a ton of stuff....
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: zirk on 26 February 2018, 18:48:57
Hi Zirk

You need Thorens Spare parts? I have halve a ton of stuff....
I'll bear that in mind Rolf, have a few bits (not many) Ive kept myself, including a Brand New Arm and a Couple of Heads and Cartridges, including some Moving Coil ones and Transformers, probably any parts I may actually need I may not have anymore. 
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 19:01:48
Hi Bigron

A good equipment does not produce any noise in the background. The best product i ever used to clean records is the Lorrycraft machine from England. Thanx to Terry and Nigel
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 February 2018, 19:08:00
I am in the process of turning an ultrasonic cleaning bath into a record cleaner.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 26 February 2018, 19:13:29
I did buy the best I could afford - that Shure cartridge did hurt my wallet!
I also used distilled water plus isopropyl alcochol in the Lencolean, but the downside is that once played wet, records always need to be played wet.
Posh London HiFi shops used to offer a wet deep cleaning service for vinyl (Monks machine, as I nearly recall?) which reputedly worked well, nut the nearest shop was too far away and in any event, I couldn't afford it!
But still, I do miss my vinyl.....
Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 26 February 2018, 19:15:41
I am in the process of turning an ultrasonic cleaning bath into a record cleaner.

Our posts crossed, Kevin, but that must have been how the Monks cleaner worked?

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 February 2018, 19:56:20
Hi Lizzy

What is your story about Thorens? Mine is very special long....



Rolf

Yes, my involvement with them goes way back to the early 1970's.  I also had a Dynatron system that was my real pride and joy, although my new husband used to prattle on about Gerrards and BSR turntables being the best, but I still preferred my Thorens and Dynatron as I just liked the sound.  Never exactly an enthusiast of turn tables. Just liked the records I played on them which I still think what counts the most! ;D ;)

Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 20:45:04
Hi Lizzy

Thorens was always a dream of mine. In the late 70s i saw the Thorens Reference on the Berlin "Funkausstellung" as a young boy.

It was clear, I can never afford such a machine. So 30 years have to go through the land to meet A.J Van den Hul on Frankfurt High End Show. He said you can never realize your ideas. I can do it, i said. Next year, this place he said.

So my Reference was born. I Did it.

(https://s9.postimg.org/gtwjlzr0v/DSC_0006.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7yvpbh28b/)

Rolf
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 February 2018, 21:18:01
That is one impressive piece of engineering Rolf 8) 8) :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Zirfeld on 26 February 2018, 21:37:02
Just a dream Lizzy

Some fine years, i was big in Japan...but the Asian Financial Crises 2008 destroyed everything. I lost it all. But it is never to late to restart.

Rolf
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: ronnyd on 26 February 2018, 22:01:45
Hi Lizzy

What is your story about Thorens? Mine is very special long....



Rolf

Yes, my involvement with them goes way back to the early 1970's.  I also had a Dynatron system that was my real pride and joy, although my new husband used to prattle on about Gerrards and BSR turntables being the best, but I still preferred my Thorens and Dynatron as I just liked the sound.  Never exactly an enthusiast of turn tables. Just liked the records I played on them which I still think what counts the most! ;D ;)


Do you remember  the old massed produced BSRs that were just pressed steel? When i got my factory refurbed Goldring Lenco turntable with the platter weighing 9lb it opened up a whole world of better sounds. Now over 40yrs old and still going strong. :y Not that i use it much lately as i can,t be arsed to get my vinyl down from upstairs. :-[  Maybe tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 February 2018, 09:59:47
I did buy the best I could afford - that Shure cartridge did hurt my wallet!
I also used distilled water plus isopropyl alcochol in the Lencolean, but the downside is that once played wet, records always need to be played wet.
Posh London HiFi shops used to offer a wet deep cleaning service for vinyl (Monks machine, as I nearly recall?) which reputedly worked well, nut the nearest shop was too far away and in any event, I couldn't afford it!
But still, I do miss my vinyl.....
Ron.

I have a Shure M91ED which was a model or two down from the V15 but very similar mechanically. Just splashed out on a Jico SAS stylus for it and it's sounding pretty good, but I also got offered a 2nd hand Benz Micro Ace L for a price I couldn't miss, and it does trounce the Shure somewhat. ;D

I never find a problem with static after cleaning records. Charity shop basket cases play like new when dry as long as there's no actual damage. So far I've been using a "Disco Antistat" with the fluid that comes with it, but I have a source of DI water and isopropanol to go in the cleaning bath when it's done. Just need to get some Ilfotol to complete the mix!

Wow Rolf - that's a very impressive looking project. :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: aaronjb on 27 February 2018, 10:18:29
96Kbit MP3, that's where it's at, you know.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 February 2018, 11:01:08
Hi Lizzy

What is your story about Thorens? Mine is very special long....



Rolf

Yes, my involvement with them goes way back to the early 1970's.  I also had a Dynatron system that was my real pride and joy, although my new husband used to prattle on about Gerrards and BSR turntables being the best, but I still preferred my Thorens and Dynatron as I just liked the sound.  Never exactly an enthusiast of turn tables. Just liked the records I played on them which I still think what counts the most! ;D ;)


Do you remember  the old massed produced BSRs that were just pressed steel? When i got my factory refurbed Goldring Lenco turntable with the platter weighing 9lb it opened up a whole world of better sounds. Now over 40yrs old and still going strong. :y Not that i use it much lately as i can,t be arsed to get my vinyl down from upstairs. :-[  Maybe tomorrow. :)

Yes, I think I do in the 1970's, although my ex would know far more about them than me!  BSR certainly were the major supplier of turntables back then that even I noticed. ::) ::) :D :D

Goldring certainly is the name you saw everywhere in the day :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: New POD on 27 February 2018, 19:57:22
I need a new record player.  Budget ? two tenths of break all please.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Rods2 on 27 February 2018, 20:49:56
I need a new record player.  Budget ? two tenths of break all please.

Top 11 2018 decks with a wide range of prices:

https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables (https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 February 2018, 20:54:26
I need a new record player.  Budget ? two tenths of break all please.


Top 11 2018 decks with a wide range of prices:
https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables (https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables)

Blimey, you have to pay £1,000 to get one that plays 78's!  :o :o ;D ;)

Bit different to when I bought my first 78 gramophone for 2/6d ;)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 27 February 2018, 20:58:27
Those prices are taking the wee-wee! How many Omegas could you get for £18,670?

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: ronnyd on 27 February 2018, 21:26:48
Those prices are taking the wee-wee! How many Omegas could you get for £18,670?

Ron.
All of ,em ;D
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 February 2018, 22:43:34
Those prices are taking the wee-wee! How many Omegas could you get for £18,670?

Ron.

I'd want quite a few Ariston Linn LP12s for that much, too. ;D
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 28 February 2018, 00:06:56
Seriously, how can they justify that price? NO vinyl could ever sound so good as to warrant it, and coulkd it possibly perfom about 1,000 times better than a Garrard Zero 100?

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 28 February 2018, 01:25:37
I need a new record player.  Budget ? two tenths of break all please.


Top 11 2018 decks with a wide range of prices:
https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables (https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables)

Blimey, you have to pay £1,000 to get one that plays 78's!  :o :o ;D ;)

Bit different to when I bought my first 78 gramophone for 2/6d ;)

I have a Dansett lurking around somewhere!  Bag of sand anyone?  :y
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: aaronjb on 28 February 2018, 08:44:27
Seriously, how can they justify that price? NO vinyl could ever sound so good as to warrant it, and coulkd it possibly perfom about 1,000 times better than a Garrard Zero 100?

Because the fools with their gold plated "Hi Fi quality" power cables and speaker cables as fat as your arm will happily pay it to believe in their own mind that the sound is superior to anything anyone else has ever heard...
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Bigron on 28 February 2018, 08:52:13
By the time they can afford such things, Aaron, their "Golden Ears" will have deteriorated to such an extent as to make it pointless - if it ever was?
I'm thinking "Emperor's New Clothes"......

Ron.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: aaronjb on 28 February 2018, 08:55:17
 ;D ;D Golden ears.. I like that phrase :)

Audiophiles would cringe - the only time I ever listen to music is either the radio in the car (at least it's DAB, I suppose) or streaming services on laptop speakers :-X
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 February 2018, 09:41:16
I need a new record player.  Budget ? two tenths of break all please.


Top 11 2018 decks with a wide range of prices:
https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables (https://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/hi-fi/best-turntables)

Blimey, you have to pay £1,000 to get one that plays 78's!  :o :o ;D ;)

Bit different to when I bought my first 78 gramophone for 2/6d ;)

I have a Dansett lurking around somewhere!  Bag of sand anyone?  :y

Worth a try. It could only improve the sound. ;)
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 February 2018, 09:49:17
Seriously, how can they justify that price? NO vinyl could ever sound so good as to warrant it, and coulkd it possibly perfom about 1,000 times better than a Garrard Zero 100?

Because the fools with their gold plated "Hi Fi quality" power cables and speaker cables as fat as your arm will happily pay it to believe in their own mind that the sound is superior to anything anyone else has ever heard...

Exactly this. The Hi-Fi press in the 80's raised this turntable to legendary status with their superlative reviews whilst the Japanese manufacturers quietly got on with more important things like not driving the platter with a manky elastic band and not making the plinth out of old fruit cartons.  ;D

Meanwhile, the upgrades started rolling in for the "golden eared" folk and suddenly an already overpriced turntable had to be spec'ed up to cost a 5 figure sum before your peers in audiophilia would respect it. ;D The madness continues to this day.

A better option would be to buy a 2nd hand Japanese direct drive for £100. They are all bomb proof, and they all sound great after a drop of oil on the spindle bearing and a check for play in the tonearm bearings.
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: zirk on 02 March 2018, 16:56:38
Im having Gold Plated Flaps fitted to my Ears soon, meaning I can listen to Digital 0's and 1's directly without the need for any of this Analogue stuff.  :)

If that works out, I probably do the Laser Eye Surgery thing so I can read CD and DVD's directly.  :D
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 March 2018, 18:17:01
Im having Gold Plated Flaps fitted to my Ears soon, meaning I can listen to Digital 0's and 1's directly without the need for any of this Analogue stuff.  :)

If that works out, I probably do the Laser Eye Surgery thing so I can read CD and DVD's directly.  :D

Digital? Oh, dear. That "sucks the life out of the music", apparently. ;D
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: Rods2 on 03 March 2018, 21:48:38
Im having Gold Plated Flaps fitted to my Ears soon, meaning I can listen to Digital 0's and 1's directly without the need for any of this Analogue stuff.  :)

If that works out, I probably do the Laser Eye Surgery thing so I can read CD and DVD's directly.  :D

Digital? Oh, dear. That "sucks the life out of the music", apparently. ;D

Too quiet and clinical, whereas it it sounds like it is being played next to a bowl of freshly made Rice Crispies that's an authentic warm vinyl sound. ;D ;D ;D The crackles and pops sound even better when played through an £18k turntable, apparently. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thorens TD 320 MK III
Post by: ronnyd on 09 March 2018, 20:26:17
Finally got off my arris and dug out some of my old vinyl albums. Had horrific mains "hum" when the turntable first fired up but wiggled a few leads and all ok. Had a lazy afternoon, (tooth extraction this morning-- aagh)  ::) Listened to some Moody Blues, Marillion and Barclay James Harvest, with the brilliant John Lees. Made a great change from the crap on the telly. Oh the joys of being retired. :y