Omega Owners Forum

Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 08 December 2018, 07:54:53

Title: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 08 December 2018, 07:54:53
Anyone following these protesters?

No leader. They succeeded in gettting Macron to back down over fuel prices but they continue rioting and protesting. Will Macron resign?

Students now protesting.

Macron - for the rich?

It would be easy to dismiss the protests as “The French”.  Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March? Could the French yellow jackets get a leader and become a political party?
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: BazaJT on 08 December 2018, 08:24:51
I could see such a party gaining support from the disaffected,whether or not they would become a prty to be reckoned with is another matter.But would they want to form a political party or would this then make them too "establishment"?
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 December 2018, 09:39:37
I could see such a party gaining support from the disaffected,whether or not they would become a prty to be reckoned with is another matter. But would they want to form a political party or would this then make them too "establishment"?
The irony won't be lost on them... which will probably be cause for a riot of its own ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 08 December 2018, 09:44:43
Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March?

Nah we're far too apathetic civilised to do things like that.  ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 December 2018, 09:50:05
Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March?

Nah we're far too apathetic civilised to do things like that.  ;D
Except for the champagne socialist youth who burned half of Old Croydon and various bits of Lundun in 2011 ::)
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Rods2 on 08 December 2018, 12:49:12
As per usual where there is a chance to create chaos, Russian active measures are stirring things up. >:( >:( >:( Where I'm being very vocal on Twitter at the moment over #Brexit I'm also getting a lot of Russian Bots following me on there. :(
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 08 December 2018, 14:43:12
Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March?

Nah we're far too apathetic civilised to do things like that.  ;D
Except for the champagne socialist youth who burned half of Old Croydon and various bits of Lundun in 2011 ::)

True, but that wasn't really political, just the hot weather and too much grog went to their heads!  ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: 78bex on 08 December 2018, 14:58:24
Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March?

Nah we're far too apathetic civilised to do things like that.  ;D
Except for the champagne socialist youth who burned half of Old Croydon and various bits of Lundun in 2011 ::)

2011 ..... wow time does fly by  :)
Mind you with all that smoke in the air,  we did see some nice sun sets that summer  :y
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Migalot on 08 December 2018, 22:18:01
As per usual where there is a chance to create chaos, Russian active measures are stirring things up. >:( >:( >:( Where I'm being very vocal on Twitter at the moment over #Brexit I'm also getting a lot of Russian Bots following me on there. :(

Sod all to do with Russia. People are just fed up with the globalists (May, Macron and Merkel) ignoring them. They have seen how Trump is draining the US swamp and would like to see the same in Europe. So would I.  :y
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 December 2018, 22:22:01
Anyone following these protesters?

No leader. They succeeded in gettting Macron to back down over fuel prices but they continue rioting and protesting. Will Macron resign?

Students now protesting.

Macron - for the rich?

It would be easy to dismiss the protests as “The French”.  Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March? Could the French yellow jackets get a leader and become a political party?

I find what is happening in France very interesting and with every new report there is confirmation that various people, of all different shades of the political spectrum, have come together with one clear aim; removing Macron.

This is the way in France, and has clear echoes of what happened in 1789.  Many different groups combining to remove the key authority (the acristocracy) to gain control over their lives and no longer be dictated to by having fair representation in the national decision making process. Some being interviewed are even openly talking about civil war if Macron does not go. 

Are we heading that way?  So many of different political colours all fed up with British politics?

Before anyone says no, it can never happen here as we are not like the French, just remember the English Civil War that was fought to give democratic power (well some at least) to the people and take it away from authority (the King). Have our politics got to that stage again where we, the people, want our democracy back, or are we more interested in I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!?

We have been close to revolution before on a number of ocassions. However, on those ocassions the UK Parliament have been clever enough to be one step ahead of the game and give the people just enough to stop them rebeling.  Is the current Government, or any ministers, good enough to do this now? ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Migalot on 08 December 2018, 22:37:49
Anyone following these protesters?

No leader. They succeeded in gettting Macron to back down over fuel prices but they continue rioting and protesting. Will Macron resign?

Students now protesting.

Macron - for the rich?

It would be easy to dismiss the protests as “The French”.  Could the same happen in Britain post 29 March? Could the French yellow jackets get a leader and become a political party?

I find what is happening in France very interesting and with every new report there is confirmation that various people, of all different shades of the political spectrum, have come together with one clear aim; removing Macron.

This is the way in France, and has clear echoes of what happened in 1789.  Many different groups combining to remove the key authority (the acristocracy) to gain control over their lives and no longer be dictated to by having fair representation in the national decision making process. Some being interviewed are even openly talking about civil war if Macron does not go. 

Are we heading that way?  So many of different political colours all fed up with British politics?

Before anyone says no, it can never happen here as we are not like the French, just remember the English Civil War that was fought to give democratic power (well some at least) to the people and take it away from authority (the King). Have our politics got to that stage again where we, the people, want our democracy back, or are we more interested in I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!?

We have been close to revolution before on a number of ocassions. However, on those ocassions the UK Parliament have been clever enough to be one step ahead of the game and give the people just enough to stop them rebeling.  Is the current Government, or any ministers, good enough to do this now? ::) ::) ;)

To be honest, I think it all depends on whether the referendum is honoured. If it is not (and that includes any deal by which we would still be effectively governed by the EU) then all bets are off as it would be quite plain that democracy in the UK is a sham. Whether that will result in civil disorder, I wouldn't like to say, though I know people are livid with May and many in the Tory party at the moment. We live in very interesting, but dangerous, times.   
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Rods2 on 09 December 2018, 03:18:09
As per usual where there is a chance to create chaos, Russian active measures are stirring things up. >:( >:( >:( Where I'm being very vocal on Twitter at the moment over #Brexit I'm also getting a lot of Russian Bots following me on there. :(

Sod all to do with Russia. People are just fed up with the globalists (May, Macron and Merkel) ignoring them. They have seen how Trump is draining the US swamp and would like to see the same in Europe. So would I.  :y

Like I stated where chaos can be created RU active measures are there from Ukraine since 2014 to the US elections & illegitimate election of Trump who special council Robert Mueller III is steadily uncovering, to many personal RU troll attacks I've suffered from actively supporting Ukraine against their invasion by Russia, which I'm old enough, ugly enough & know how to use psyops to see off, so don't bother trying to teach me to suck eggs. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Migalot on 09 December 2018, 19:38:16
As per usual where there is a chance to create chaos, Russian active measures are stirring things up. >:( >:( >:( Where I'm being very vocal on Twitter at the moment over #Brexit I'm also getting a lot of Russian Bots following me on there. :(

Sod all to do with Russia. People are just fed up with the globalists (May, Macron and Merkel) ignoring them. They have seen how Trump is draining the US swamp and would like to see the same in Europe. So would I.  :y

Like I stated where chaos can be created RU active measures are there from Ukraine since 2014 to the US elections & illegitimate election of Trump who special council Robert Mueller III is steadily uncovering, to many personal RU troll attacks I've suffered from actively supporting Ukraine against their invasion by Russia, which I'm old enough, ugly enough & know how to use psyops to see off, so don't bother trying to teach me to suck eggs. >:( >:( >:(

Oh, please. Do you think that millions of Americans had their brains rewired by the Russkies to vote for Trump? No. It was the start of the world rejecting globalism and the Deep State. There was no collusion, though your Russophobia seems to make you unable to accept that.

   
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 December 2018, 22:45:10
Even the likes of Michael Moore were urging people to vote for Hillary, even though it went against every fibre of common sense.

Fact is, ignoring the way Trump presents himself via social media, he is actually quite switched on... And two years down the line, Middle America is still very much conservative right wing.  ;)
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 11 December 2018, 11:38:23
Well they have become the mos successful protesters of modern times in my eye.

Macron has caved in and given , without being asked, thefollowing.

An end to the planned fuel tax rises

7% increase in minimum wage i.e. 100 euros a month more

Planned  tax  increase on low income pensioners dropped

Overtime no longer taxed

Employers to be encouraged to give atax free end of year bonus


Plus some other things like listening to the Provinces!

He is not going to tax the rich more though!

Think what would have been achieved if theyhad rioted, protested more. ;D





Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: STEMO on 11 December 2018, 12:17:05
Well they have become the mos successful protesters of modern times in my eye.

Macron has caved in and given , without being asked, thefollowing.

An end to the planned fuel tax rises

7% increase in minimum wage i.e. 100 euros a month more

Planned  tax  increase on low income pensioners dropped

Overtime no longer taxed

Employers to be encouraged to give atax free end of year bonus


Plus some other things like listening to the Provinces!

He is not going to tax the rich more though!

Think what would have been achieved if theyhad rioted, protested more. ;D
Germany will smack his bottie because he won't be able to balance the books now.
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 11 January 2019, 00:02:08
I see that they are still protesting.

One action has been to take out 60% of Frances speed cameras.
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 11 January 2019, 00:13:58
I see that they are still protesting.

One action has been to take out 60% of Frances speed cameras.

Sacre Bleu!  ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: aaronjb on 11 January 2019, 08:47:38
I see that they are still protesting.

One action has been to take out 60% of Frances speed cameras.

If they can make it to 100%, it'll be a fun place to drive again.. ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 January 2019, 09:52:56
I see that they are still protesting.

One action has been to take out 60% of Frances speed cameras.

If they can make it to 100%, it'll be a fun place to drive again.. ;D
Yeah, the week before Le Mans would be good. :y
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: 78bex on 11 January 2019, 23:17:55
 I prefer the the London yellow jackets  ::) well 3 yellow jackets if you count plod  :)

The image isn`t mine, but was doing the rounds prior to xmas from the climate demo; they were were blocking bridges into the capital & taking the pish 

  (http://i63.tinypic.com/zsvlkx.jpg)

Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 11 January 2019, 23:24:47
Can you getthemtotape up the Dar5 crossing cameras at the end of the month so I can go home please.?

That fellow in orange with a blue miniskirt about to shot put an orange looks handy. :y
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 January 2019, 11:35:01
Can you getthemtotape up the Dar5 crossing cameras at the end of the month so I can go home please.?

That fellow in orange with a blue miniskirt about to shot put an orange looks like the tunc that he surely is :y
You're not wrong  ;)
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Rods2 on 13 January 2019, 02:17:30
As per usual where there is a chance to create chaos, Russian active measures are stirring things up. >:( >:( >:( Where I'm being very vocal on Twitter at the moment over #Brexit I'm also getting a lot of Russian Bots following me on there. :(

Sod all to do with Russia. People are just fed up with the globalists (May, Macron and Merkel) ignoring them. They have seen how Trump is draining the US swamp and would like to see the same in Europe. So would I.  :y

Like I stated where chaos can be created RU active measures are there from Ukraine since 2014 to the US elections & illegitimate election of Trump who special council Robert Mueller III is steadily uncovering, to many personal RU troll attacks I've suffered from actively supporting Ukraine against their invasion by Russia, which I'm old enough, ugly enough & know how to use psyops to see off, so don't bother trying to teach me to suck eggs. >:( >:( >:(

Oh, please. Do you think that millions of Americans had their brains rewired by the Russkies to vote for Trump? No. It was the start of the world rejecting globalism and the Deep State. There was no collusion, though your Russophobia seems to make you unable to accept that.

 

Again you are not the brightest bulb in the box of lighthouse floodlights. You clearly have no idea how the US voting system & electoral collage works. Government Intelligence services are called this where they employ the brightest & the best. I've got a grudging & great respect for Russian intelligence services of the GRU, FSB & SVR where they are the best in the world.

You don't need to millions of votes as the special investigator Robert Mueller is uncovering, you do this...

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/mueller-vote-rigging-scheme-nailed/15236/ (https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/mueller-vote-rigging-scheme-nailed/15236/)

It took swinging & gerrymandering of 80,000 votes. Where mobster Trump has been a Soviet/Russian asset since at least 1984 the time was right to leverage this asset where they squeezed him to stand as President. This is classic mafia tactics. 1. Exploit weakness (bankruptcy/give loans). 2. Own. 3. Squeeze :( The good news is that after this major corruption clearout of Western democracy will be much stronger & better for it. :y :y :y

BTW about 90% of Christopher Steele's raw intelligence report has now been verified & two Russians implicated as sources have died in unexplained circumstances. :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 09 February 2019, 18:47:44
Well it's all still going on and 12,000 took to the streets across France today in what the French media have dubbed Act XIII. 

Apparently a photographer had his hand blown off by a 'desencclement grenade' which I think is a rubber pellet grenade!  :o  and also a group of Gilets Jaunes in Nice were prevented from crossing the border into Italy by Gendarmes. So much for free movement!  :-X  :D

Here's a report of events of the day from Le Monde as the UK MSM don't seem that interested.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/09/gilets-jaunes-un-manifestant-grievement-blesse_5421485_3224.html
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: ronnyd on 09 February 2019, 19:14:59
Just imagine what it would be like if France were going through a "Frexit" process similar to ours.  :o
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 09 February 2019, 21:13:28
Just imagine what it would be like if France were going through a "Frexit" process similar to ours.  :o

They probably will at some point and all hell will break loose, as Frexit will be involuntary when the Euro collapses.  ::)

I hope we are well out of it by then!  :-\ 
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 09 February 2019, 22:00:52
Well it's all still going on and 12,000 took to the streets across France today in what the French media have dubbed Act XIII. 

Apparently a photographer had his hand blown off by a 'desencclement grenade' which I think is a rubber pellet grenade!  :o  and also a group of Gilets Jaunes in Nice were prevented from crossing the border into Italy by Gendarmes. So much for free movement!  :-X  :D

Here's a report of events of the day from Le Monde as the UK MSM don't seem that interested.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/09/gilets-jaunes-un-manifestant-grievement-blesse_5421485_3224.html

The BBC has a piece on it on their website today

I wonder how they calculate how many protesters.? When we drove up through France trying to find hotels off the beaten track you would see 5 or 6 yellow jackets on obscure junctions or roundabouts. Maybe they have officials that drive around counting them!
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: zirk on 10 February 2019, 19:46:14
Frexit next.
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: BazaJT on 10 February 2019, 20:01:19
Todays result in the Six Nations at Twickenham :y :y will give them something else to protest/riot about :D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Migv6 on 11 February 2019, 13:32:04
I hear the French and Italians have had a big fall out over this.
It will be resolved either by the French surrendering or the Italians retreating. Just a matter of which happens first.  :D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: ronnyd on 11 February 2019, 16:37:11
I hear the French and Italians have had a big fall out over this.
It will be resolved either by the French surrendering or the Italians retreating. Just a matter of which happens first.  :D
Probably happen at exactly the same time. They do have history. ;D
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Rods2 on 13 February 2019, 01:31:28
I hear the French and Italians have had a big fall out over this.
It will be resolved either by the French surrendering or the Italians retreating. Just a matter of which happens first.  :D

I think it will be settled with an early morning duel, handbags at dawn. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: scimmy_man on 13 February 2019, 09:24:05
I hear the French and Italians have had a big fall out over this.
It will be resolved either by the French surrendering or the Italians retreating. Just a matter of which happens first.  :D

I think it will be settled with an early morning duel, white flags at dawn. ::) ::) ::)

FIFY
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 17 February 2019, 00:03:36
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: STEMO on 17 February 2019, 07:02:30
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html
Strange name for a newspaper.....lemonade.
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 17 February 2019, 11:19:26
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html

Out of a population of 67 million :P :P :D :D ;)

Not exactly like 1789!

Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: ronnyd on 17 February 2019, 16:49:29
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html

Out of a population of 67 million :P :P :D :D ;)

Not exactly like 1789!


Jut a bunch of stupid bastilles.
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Varche on 17 February 2019, 19:09:27
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html

Out of a population of 67 million :P :P :D :D ;)

Quite correct however for every one prepared to risk their freedom by protesting peacefully or otherwise and freezing standing on a roundabout, there will be another 100 that support them. Plus another 100 with no views at all.

Not exactly like 1789!
Title: Re: French Yellow Jackets
Post by: Rods2 on 21 February 2019, 00:55:28
It's still going on with 41,500 taking to the streets across France for Act XIV today.  ::)

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/02/16/gilets-jaunes-un-acte-xiv-qui-s-annonce-fragmente-en-france_5424212_3224.html
Strange name for a newspaper.....lemonade.

No stranger than Citroen cars, which when unreliable, still surprises drivers, when they've bought a lemon! :D :D :D