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Title: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 18 April 2019, 19:07:59
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 April 2019, 19:12:09
Probably left it idling whilst they had lunch...
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 18 April 2019, 19:17:14
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(
you should count yourself very lucky

should have been a fail  :o

I guess the NT has not read the MOT manual for a year or so  ;D
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Entwood on 18 April 2019, 19:32:04
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(

If you are in the RWB area either before 12 tomorrow, or after 3 from Tuesday to Friday next week I can stick the code reader on for you, away in the tin tent otherwise :)
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 18 April 2019, 22:09:19
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(

If you are in the RWB area either before 12 tomorrow, or after 3 from Tuesday to Friday next week I can stick the code reader on for you, away in the tin tent otherwise :)

Ta, it will have to be next week. Thanks Nige, I'll be in touch. Meantime can someone PM me with a cheapo reader that will reset codes please? :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 18 April 2019, 22:10:37
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(
you should count yourself very lucky

should have been a fail  :o

I guess the NT has not read the MOT manual for a year or so  ;D

Advice was that its not a fail for this age of vehicle. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 18 April 2019, 23:01:30
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(
you should count yourself very lucky

should have been a fail  :o

I guess the NT has not read the MOT manual for a year or so  ;D

Advice was that its not a fail for this age of vehicle
. ??? ??? ???

I guess the NT has not read the MOT manual for a year or so  ;D

Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: STEMO on 19 April 2019, 13:21:51
In the 9 years I've owned the 3.2, I've never had the EM light on. Took it in with no light on for its MOT today, after giving it an Italian tune-up. It passed with one advisory, EM light on >:(. What did they do? WOT didn't bring it on for me. >:( >:( >:(
you should count yourself very lucky

should have been a fail  :o

I guess the NT has not read the MOT manual for a year or so  ;D

Advice was that its not a fail for this age of vehicle. ??? ??? ???
Esp when they know they were responsible for putting it on in the first place.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 15:53:41
Has anyone got a generic code reader that will reset codes they can recommend for an Omega 3.2? If so please PM me the name. :y
I am surprised that no-one has come up with a reason that may have brought the light on during the MOT. I am not a great fan of such coincidences. :-\
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 19 April 2019, 15:55:37
Has anyone got a generic code reader that will reset codes they can recommend for an Omega 3.2? If so please PM me the name. :y
I am surprised that no-one has come up with a reason that may have brought the light on during the MOT. I am not a great fan of such coincidences. :-\


3.2 is OBD compliant, so any cheap device ought to do what you want. Easily doable for under 20.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 16:02:36
Has anyone got a generic code reader that will reset codes they can recommend for an Omega 3.2? If so please PM me the name. :y
I am surprised that no-one has come up with a reason that may have brought the light on during the MOT. I am not a great fan of such coincidences. :-\


3.2 is OBD compliant, so any cheap device ought to do what you want. Easily doable for under 20.
:y :y :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 April 2019, 16:04:13
Has anyone got a generic code reader that will reset codes they can recommend for an Omega 3.2? If so please PM me the name. :y
I am surprised that no-one has come up with a reason that may have brought the light on during the MOT. I am not a great fan of such coincidences. :-\
Ahem... They probably left it idling for an extended period.

Pedal trick will tell what the car thinks the cause was :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 16:16:12
Has anyone got a generic code reader that will reset codes they can recommend for an Omega 3.2? If so please PM me the name. :y
I am surprised that no-one has come up with a reason that may have brought the light on during the MOT. I am not a great fan of such coincidences. :-\
Ahem... They probably left it idling for an extended period.

Pedal trick will tell what the car thinks the cause was :y

Just off to do that. It can't have idled for long, it only took 20 minutes to do the MOT!
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 April 2019, 16:18:26
Only needs to miss slightly once... Fans kicking in could cause a stutter as the load increases ;)
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 16:37:35
Pedal trick doesn't work for some reason. Spanner light remains on. IIRC I have used it in the past, but I may be confusing it with the TD. Paperclip doesn't appear any use as no connectors in 2 & 6 of OBD socket. :(
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: johnnydog on 19 April 2019, 16:49:14
Pedal trick doesn't work for some reason. Spanner light remains on. IIRC I have used it in the past, but I may be confusing it with the TD. Paperclip doesn't appear any use as no connectors in 2 & 6 of OBD socket. :(

Is it the spanner light that is on, or the EML as in your first post?
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 19 April 2019, 16:50:53
makes sense now
probably an abs fault after brake testing that pinged up
not eml
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 16:53:22
Pedal trick doesn't work for some reason. Spanner light remains on. IIRC I have used it in the past, but I may be confusing it with the TD. Paperclip doesn't appear any use as no connectors in 2 & 6 of OBD socket. :(

Is it the spanner light that is on, or the EML as in your first post?

Its the EML light on when running. Spanner light will not flash for pedal trick, stays on. :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 19 April 2019, 16:58:43
we have a few of these clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Torque-ELM-327-Bluetooth-V2-1-OBD2-OBDII-Car-Diagnostic-Auto-Scanner-Code-Reader/173784959628?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D57477%26meid%3D11cb0a79dd7849fdbb22593e08cf2842%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D123555553321%26itm%3D173784959628&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851)
reads EML codes via android phone app  :y
small enough to stick in the glove box
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 17:04:40
Can it reset codes via the app as well?
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 19 April 2019, 17:10:16
Can it reset codes via the app as well?


They do everything a dedicated OBD scantool does; they're just a bit fiddlier to use. That's OK if you don't use it very often, and it takes up very little space in the glovebox
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 17:12:25
Unfortunately I have no idea how much a scantool can do, but I will assume it will reset codes.

Thanks :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 19 April 2019, 17:15:17
think you have to upgrade the free app to torque pro (about 7 ) to reset abs etc but it will reset eml
I give them to the peasants* to use if their EML comes on ,so i can then know what the likely cause is before i travel / plug in my laptop

peasants*
astra,corsa zafira drivers in the family fleet  ;D
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 17:17:33
Can it reset codes via the app as well?


They do everything a dedicated OBD scantool does; they're just a bit fiddlier to use. That's OK if you don't use it very often, and it takes up very little space in the glovebox

Unfortunately I have an iPhone, which appears to be incompatible with these. :(
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 19 April 2019, 17:22:39
Then something like THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Fault-Code-Reader-Engine-Diagnostic-Scanner-Reset-Tool-OBD-2-CAN-BUS-EOBD/332740508786?epid=15026726635&hash=item4d78e13c72:g:1QAAAOSwJpda4NYq&frcectupt=true) would be a good start, although one that reads live data would be better.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 17:26:49
Then something like THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Fault-Code-Reader-Engine-Diagnostic-Scanner-Reset-Tool-OBD-2-CAN-BUS-EOBD/332740508786?epid=15026726635&hash=item4d78e13c72:g:1QAAAOSwJpda4NYq&frcectupt=true) would be a good start, although one that reads live data would be better.

Thanks Nick, I agree, and would prefer one that does live data. Can you recommend one? :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 19 April 2019, 17:29:39
I'm happy with my Autel, but it's about 6 years old. Any of the Autel ones will be fine
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Bigron on 19 April 2019, 17:54:50
Then something like THIS (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Fault-Code-Reader-Engine-Diagnostic-Scanner-Reset-Tool-OBD-2-CAN-BUS-EOBD/332740508786?epid=15026726635&hash=item4d78e13c72:g:1QAAAOSwJpda4NYq&frcectupt=true) would be a good start, although one that reads live data would be better.

Nick, I bought one of those and although it reads codes, it will NOT clear them or put the eml light out. :(

Ron.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 19 April 2019, 18:32:20


Unfortunately I have an iPhone, which appears to be incompatible with these. :(

available for apple products  clicky (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-WiFi-ELM327-OBD2-II-Car-Diagnostic-Code-Scan-Tool-For-iPhone-iPad-iPod/362517912392?epid=1994294501&hash=item5467c05b48:g:DboAAOSwdHpcIvWd)
but the only apple product I use is on me pork chops  :P
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 19 April 2019, 19:29:20
At that price its worth a punt. Doesn't say if it will reset codes though. As Nick suggests, one that will read live data is best. :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 20 April 2019, 10:26:11
Either the spanner light or engine light will leave a code in the engine ECU on a 3.2.  The pedal trick *WILL* work.

Ensure throttle is absolutely fully down, and brake is down enough to activate both brake pedal switches.


And OBDII reader can read 3.2 engine (only). I personally use an Autel one, but others available.  Generally not a fan of the laptop/phone based ones, mostly because they are awkward/shite/limited.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Bigron on 20 April 2019, 11:31:55
I know TB will hate it, but what do we think of this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3

Ron.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 April 2019, 11:35:10
That should suffice  ;)
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Bigron on 20 April 2019, 11:36:38
Good. Thanks DG. :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: zirk on 20 April 2019, 14:27:25
A cheap BT Dongle off the Bay, couple of quid, and the free version of "ScanMyOpel" App off the PlayStore will be good enough to sort your codes out.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Bigron on 20 April 2019, 17:02:56
Er, my phone is dead basic, not smart, and only goes "Ring, bloody ring" - nuffink else, Zirk! :(

Ron.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 20 April 2019, 17:27:19
I know TB will hate it, but what do we think of this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3

Ron.

I wonder how long it takes to come from Nifeng Liu B1123-1126, Yousong Technology Building 11F,Donghuan First Road, 518000 Shenzhen? :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 20 April 2019, 17:28:36
A cheap BT Dongle off the Bay, couple of quid, and the free version of "ScanMyOpel" App off the PlayStore will be good enough to sort your codes out.

As you know Chris, I am a techno numpty, so you are speaking in tongues. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 20 April 2019, 17:32:49
Does the EML light go off after so many starts if fault no longer exists? Or am I thinking of other codes. :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Bigron on 20 April 2019, 17:34:59
Well, it was promised for delivery on Thursday next, the 25th. April - I hope they meant this year! ::)

Ron.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 20 April 2019, 19:06:58
I know TB will hate it, but what do we think of this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3)

Ron.

I wonder how long it takes to come from Nifeng Liu B1123-1126, Yousong Technology Building 11F,Donghuan First Road, 518000 Shenzhen? :-\ :-\ :-\




about 20minutes. Unless you live in Brackley. Then they'll send you a rubber chicken in time for the August bank holiday festivities......
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 21 April 2019, 09:42:30
Does the EML light go off after so many starts if fault no longer exists? Or am I thinking of other codes. :-\ :-\ :-\
Anybody?
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: dave the builder on 21 April 2019, 10:07:53
Does the EML light go off after so many starts if fault no longer exists? Or am I thinking of other codes. :-\ :-\ :-\
Anybody?
the EML goes out on it's own if the fault is "not present" but stores the code for about 20 ignition cycles on most vauxhalls in my experience .

so if your light remains on when driving, i'd say you have a fault
no one local with a code reader ?
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 21 April 2019, 10:18:51
Thanks Dave, Entwood has kindly offered, and lives nearby, but I do need to get one of my own.
As I only use the Omega on days such as today, it will take time for 20 starts.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2019, 13:05:15
I know TB will hate it, but what do we think of this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3

Ron.
Its a chinky knock off. Will likely be OK, though might not last the warranty period.  Looks like that cant do live data.

I'd spend a little more on a genuine one from a real UK shop personally.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2019, 13:06:01
Does the EML light go off after so many starts if fault no longer exists? Or am I thinking of other codes. :-\ :-\ :-\
On the Omega, only the precat codes keep it illuminated. Others, the light goes out when fault fixed.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2019, 13:08:48
I know TB will hate it, but what do we think of this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MS309-OBD2-Car-Diagnostic-Scanner-OBDII-Engine-Check-Fault-Code-Reader-Date-Test/273150971347?hash=item3f99110dd3:g:p6wAAOSwantbmit3)

Ron.

I wonder how long it takes to come from Nifeng Liu B1123-1126, Yousong Technology Building 11F,Donghuan First Road, 518000 Shenzhen? :-\ :-\ :-\




about 20minutes. Unless you live in Brackley. Then they'll send you a rubber chicken in time for the August bank holiday festivities......
Most chinky ebay sellers claim item is UK, but the big fat customs sticker shows they talk 'dangle berries'.  But then everything on egay is 'dangle berries'.

I order no end of stuff from China, which tend to arrive in 10-14 days currently, as long as customs believe the customs label.  Obviously, I don't order much through egay.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2019, 13:17:54
Last think I ordered from chinkyland (pre-ordered in Feb) was a camera that was dispatched from China a week last Friday, and was delivered here on Wednesday :y
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Shackeng on 21 April 2019, 13:24:09
Does the EML light go off after so many starts if fault no longer exists? Or am I thinking of other codes. :-\ :-\ :-\
On the Omega, only the precat codes keep it illuminated. Others, the light goes out when fault fixed.

Ta, which I guess is why the sensors get re-positioned? :-\
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Enceladus on 21 April 2019, 17:38:37
I wonder how long it takes to come from Nifeng Liu B1123-1126, Yousong Technology Building 11F,Donghuan First Road, 518000 Shenzhen? :-\ :-\ :-\
In this case it probably is true that the scanner will be dispatched from the UK using the Royal Mail miss-sold 48hr parcel service, so more likely 3-4 days delivery.

The item probably is a genuine Autel, whoever they are. The problem will be if it is defective or otherwise doesn't work on your car. You'll find you have to post it back to China to get a refund. Where of course it will never arrive unless you send it via a traceable service at your expense. And the cost of that will make you conclude it's not worth returning.

I buy stuff all the time from ebay. But I try and make sure the listing explicitly states that there is a UK return address. I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole if there isn't.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: TheBoy on 21 April 2019, 17:45:38
In this case it probably is true that the scanner will be dispatched from the UK using the Royal Mail miss-sold 48hr parcel service, so more likely 3-4 days delivery.
IME, RM are pretty good, if its correctly stamped/paid.

I also suspect many egay sellers mark stuff dispatched ASAP partly to keep their Power Seller (whatever its called these days) valid, and also to stop items being cancelled due to it already being dispatch...   ...even when it isn't.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Migv6 on 21 April 2019, 18:03:45
I agree. Ive ordered stuff at midnight and had a message to say it has just been dispatched at 3 in the morning, which is obviously shite.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: STEMO on 21 April 2019, 19:55:41
I agree. Ive ordered stuff at midnight and had a message to say it has just been dispatched at 3 in the morning, which is obviously shite.
Some sellers on amazon do that too.
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Nick W on 21 April 2019, 20:09:34
I agree. Ive ordered stuff at midnight and had a message to say it has just been dispatched at 3 in the morning, which is obviously shite.


So you've never ordered stuff just before midnight Monday, and had it delivered 10am Wednesday?


I wonder what I'm doing wrong, as you lot seem to revel in constantly choosing shit suppliers?
Title: Re: Management light on
Post by: Migv6 on 21 April 2019, 20:29:45
Yes I have had plenty of orders which have gone like that, and I haven't had many go badly wrong. I just find it amusing when I get a message from someone at 3am saying they have dispatched an order.
The bloke I order my wvo filter bags from is so quick I could almost believe he is stood outside the post office with my order ready to post, when he gets the order.
Worst experiences have been with that German company people recommend on here and the atrocious cp4l.
The only two companies I make a point of avoiding altogether.