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Title: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 14 May 2019, 21:05:42
Looking like we are in for quite a windfall from a relative who died a few weeks ago & left wifey a property in SW2 valued at around 400,000. We have had caravans for a number of years & always fancied a motorhome anyone on here up to speed on them ?
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Entwood on 14 May 2019, 22:36:59
As a caravan owner/user I have several friends with motorhomes, and when we toured New Zealand we hired one so a few points worth considering, perhaps...

1. Cost - much higher costs as you are buying a truck that has been modified by sticking the accomodation on the back. It WILL require taxing, motor insurance as well as habitation insurance, servicing costs can be high as many independent garages don't have the facilities to get a truck that high onto lifts.

2. Ease of use - many motorhomes are quite a bit smaller internally than a caravan, so can feel cramped. If you have friends in there is usually very limited space for seating more than a total of 4.

3. Mobility - there are two sides to this... a) If you tend to stay in one place for a while and use it as a base to visit other places (hub and spoke sort of idea) then it can be very inconvenient to have to pack up everything to go out for the day, and many supermarket car parks have very limiting height rules - this can be overcome by taking a small car with you .. but that is yet a further cost, and not a small one !! b) If you continually move from place to place (as we did when touring New Zealand) then a motorhome is ideal as the setting up/ preparing to move times are much smaller than preparing a 'van to move

4. Facilities - due to the limitation on size many motorhomes have small dual-purpose showers/toilets, smaller hobs/ovens and very little worktop space. If you buy one with an "over cab" space think about the ease of actually getting up there to use it !! IME the "ladders" are extremely flimsy and not easy to use !

There are those that swear by motorhomes, and those that wouldn't touch one, I think they both have a place, dpending on the lifestyle you want. I wouldn't swap my van/towcar for the type of holidays we have in UK/Europe, but there is no way I would use such an arrangement to tour New Zealand/Australia, that would be a motorhome everytime.

HTH, just my thoughts, nowt else :)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: henryd on 14 May 2019, 22:48:12
As a caravan owner/user I have several friends with motorhomes, and when we toured New Zealand we hired one so a few points worth considering, perhaps...

1. Cost - much higher costs as you are buying a truck that has been modified by sticking the accomodation on the back. It WILL require taxing, motor insurance as well as habitation insurance, servicing costs can be high as many independent garages don't have the facilities to get a truck that high onto lifts.

2. Ease of use - many motorhomes are quite a bit smaller internally than a caravan, so can feel cramped. If you have friends in there is usually very limited space for seating more than a total of 4.

3. Mobility - there are two sides to this... a) If you tend to stay in one place for a while and use it as a base to visit other places (hub and spoke sort of idea) then it can be very inconvenient to have to pack up everything to go out for the day, and many supermarket car parks have very limiting height rules - this can be overcome by taking a small car with you .. but that is yet a further cost, and not a small one !! b) If you continually move from place to place (as we did when touring New Zealand) then a motorhome is ideal as the setting up/ preparing to move times are much smaller than preparing a 'van to move

4. Facilities - due to the limitation on size many motorhomes have small dual-purpose showers/toilets, smaller hobs/ovens and very little worktop space. If you buy one with an "over cab" space think about the ease of actually getting up there to use it !! IME the "ladders" are extremely flimsy and not easy to use !

There are those that swear by motorhomes, and those that wouldn't touch one, I think they both have a place, dpending on the lifestyle you want. I wouldn't swap my van/towcar for the type of holidays we have in UK/Europe, but there is no way I would use such an arrangement to tour New Zealand/Australia, that would be a motorhome everytime.

HTH, just my thoughts, nowt else :)

Like Entwood I have a caravan(6 berth twin axle) and  we also use father inlaws Bessacar 6 berth campervan,the points made are very valid as camper has much less space than the caravan even though externally as big,I do prefer the campervan in France as they are very geared towards them but in UK I prefer the caravan,biggest problem with the camper is that you have forward plan small villages due to physical size of the camper and finding somewhere to park 30 ft length can be awkward .
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 May 2019, 23:28:14
400k buys quite alot of motor home...

https://www.anglo-americanrv.co.uk/used-motorhomes/holiday-rambler-sceptre-roadmaster-iver-201811262760206

Starter for 10, but you get the idea ;)

Also most European ones are lightly built on chassis that are crap from new... Citroen/Peugeot/Fiat.

For your budget VanHool would probably build you a very nice coach conversion https://www.vanhool.be/en/specials 8)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: jimmy944 on 14 May 2019, 23:50:36
In my opinion, I would go for one of these:
http://fifthwheelco.com/ (http://fifthwheelco.com/)

It would mean swapping the TerribleCan for a Ranger or similar but c'est la vie  :y

We saw a few (4-5 total) while we had our six month homeless period and they looked the absolute business. You'd better have your reversing A-Game on though as you can't (as easily) get one of those cheaty motor-mover jobbies. You can buy 'Lightweight' american ones that have been converted for UK use and clock in under the 3.5T limit. For example:

https://www.thesttgroup.com/shop/caravans/2017-eurocruiser-955/ (https://www.thesttgroup.com/shop/caravans/2017-eurocruiser-955/)

 8)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: biggriffin on 15 May 2019, 06:58:13
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Auto Addict on 15 May 2019, 07:35:59
I've got a friend whose got a motorhome, he has to choose sites in the UK that have a bus stop outside the main gate.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 07:37:31
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.

Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Andy B on 15 May 2019, 08:29:54
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.

I don't think that's generally a problem for most of old farts here, though I'm pretty you need a medical to retain the 7.5 ton part when you reach 70
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: jimmy944 on 15 May 2019, 09:20:40
Other than myself and Tinnie, I think all the old farts on here can drive more or less what they like.  ;D

One word of warning on the car thing. AFAIK the tow hitch design where the car is pulled along on its own wheels are illegal on mainland Europe and Les Fuzz will be happy to help you empty your bank account  ::) so you'll need a trailer too.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: henryd on 15 May 2019, 09:43:42
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.

I don't think that's generally a problem for most of old farts here, though I'm pretty you need a medical to retain the 7.5 ton part when you reach 70

Oi, I'm not that old :-\
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 May 2019, 11:03:12
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.

I don't think that's generally a problem for most of old farts here, though I'm pretty you need a medical to retain the 7.5 ton part when you reach 70

Oi, I'm not that old :-\
Neither am I
As for the farts.. Guilty as charged. :-[
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: biggriffin on 15 May 2019, 11:19:26
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.


I would check 1st, and also check the weights, when towing. You might be able to drive 7.5t but have you got trailer entitlement.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 13:56:29
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.


I would check 1st, and also check the weights, when towing. You might be able to drive 7.5t but have you got trailer entitlement for over 750kgs...
Also if you get a proper motor home and not one of those inflatable Boxers, you'll be needing a C license and the +E for the trailer... So budget another 4k for both of you to do those :y
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 16:41:17
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.


I would check 1st, and also check the weights, when towing. You might be able to drive 7.5t but have you got trailer entitlement for over 750kgs...
Also if you get a proper motor home and not one of those inflatable Boxers, you'll be needing a C license and the +E for the trailer... So budget another 4k for both of you to do those :y



Both licences completely A Okay . Both passed our tests in 1971 things were sensible back then and the powers that be weren't such moneygrabbing bastards.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 17:59:06
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.


I would check 1st, and also check the weights, when towing. You might be able to drive 7.5t but have you got trailer entitlement for over 750kgs...
Also if you get a proper motor home and not one of those inflatable Boxers, you'll be needing a C license and the +E for the trailer... So budget another 4k for both of you to do those :y



Both licences completely A Okay . Both passed our tests in 1971 things were sensible back then and the powers that be weren't such moneygrabbing bastards.
Are you sure?

https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 19:26:11
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.
.  No problems licence wise.😎 Wifey has already said she wants a new Aygo to tow behind it so no problems with getting about.


I would check 1st, and also check the weights, when towing. You might be able to drive 7.5t but have you got trailer entitlement for over 750kgs...
Also if you get a proper motor home and not one of those inflatable Boxers, you'll be needing a C license and the +E for the trailer... So budget another 4k for both of you to do those :y



Both licences completely A Okay . Both passed our tests in 1971 things were sensible back then and the powers that be weren't such moneygrabbing bastards.
Are you sure?

https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories



Absolutely positive.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 19:43:08
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 19:51:10
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: biggriffin on 15 May 2019, 20:01:21
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.

 I think that's how they get around the trailer regulations,  its classed as a car being towed, not a trailer, very grey area,. 
Best place to ask is dvsa, and lppk on posh pikey forums.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: VXL V6 on 15 May 2019, 20:20:58
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-frames-and-dollies/a-frames-and-dollies

Trailer when towed by motorhome according to the above
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 20:21:46
Quote from: biggriffin Polink=topic=144923.msg1903432#msg1903432 date=1557946881
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.

 I think that's how they get around the trailer regulations,  its classed as a car being towed, not a trailer, very grey area,. 
Best place to ask is dvsa, and lppk on posh pikey forums.



Checked on caravan & motorhome club website all ok only classes we don't have are ,CE  & D & DE. So all in order.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 21:28:12
Quote from: biggriffin Polink=topic=144923.msg1903432#msg1903432 date=1557946881
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.

 I think that's how they get around the trailer regulations,  its classed as a car being towed, not a trailer, very grey area,. 
Best place to ask is dvsa, and lppk on posh pikey forums.



Checked on caravan & motorhome club website all ok only classes we don't have are ,CE  & D & DE. So all in order.
No car trailer entitlement then...
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 21:32:53
Quote from: biggriffin Polink=topic=144923.msg1903432#msg1903432 date=1557946881
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.

 I think that's how they get around the trailer regulations,  its classed as a car being towed, not a trailer, very grey area,. 
Best place to ask is dvsa, and lppk on posh pikey forums.



Checked on caravan & motorhome club website all ok only classes we don't have are ,CE  & D & DE. So all in order.
No car trailer entitlement then...
.

Yes that's included in C1E , the only stipulation for me is a certificate from my GP when I reach 70 years of age, if not obtained I lose C1E.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 21:37:05
Quote from: biggriffin Polink=topic=144923.msg1903432#msg1903432 date=1557946881
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.

 I think that's how they get around the trailer regulations,  its classed as a car being towed, not a trailer, very grey area,. 
Best place to ask is dvsa, and lppk on posh pikey forums.



Checked on caravan & motorhome club website all ok only classes we don't have are ,CE  & D & DE. So all in order.
No car trailer entitlement then...
.

Yes that's included in C1E .
Only upto 750kgs ::)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 21:39:23
Afraid you are wrong, because I passed my test pre 1975
And no need for a trailer A frame is fine.

 
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: dave the builder on 15 May 2019, 21:41:07
C1E   Vehicle between 3,500kg and 7,500kg carrying no more than 8 passengers plus driver, with trailer over 750kg and a combined weight of no more than 12,000kg
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 21:45:39
C1E   Vehicle between 3,500kg and 7,500kg carrying no more than 8 passengers plus driver, with trailer over 750kg and a combined weight of no more than 12,000kg
.

Only applies to persons who passed their test from 1975 onwards.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 21:56:59
Wouldn't C1E cover it?
Only to 7.5t plus a max 750kgs trailer. A Smart car on an A frame is near enough 1,300kgs.
No. Trailer over 750kgs in weight, not exceeding 12 tonne maximum weight.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: aaronjb on 15 May 2019, 22:00:32
And no need for a trailer A frame is fine.

I believe what DG was saying is that a car on an A frame, behind a motor home, counts as on a trainer for the purposes of the law - whether it's on an A frame or a trailer.

And damn you all.. you made me wonder what categories I have on my license so I went to check, and now I realise my license isn't in my wallet... I hope it's still at home somewhere and not lost (I'm in a hotel for work) :-X :-X :-[
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: dave the builder on 15 May 2019, 22:04:35
the link i got only goes back to 1976
they probably think anyone who passed their test before then is pushing up daiseys  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 15 May 2019, 22:10:08

And damn you all.. you made me wonder what categories I have on my license so I went to check, and now I realise my license isn't in my wallet... I hope it's still at home somewhere and not lost (I'm in a hotel for work) :-X :-X :-[

This has reminded me that I need to renew my licence which expires on the 25th and I'd forgotten.  ::)

Problem is that I'm also away for a few days and won't be able to put my application in until I get home and can get my passport number.  :(

I might be walking for a few days after the 25th...  :-[
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 22:11:23
And no need for a trailer A frame is fine.

I believe what DG was saying is that a car on an A frame, behind a motor home, counts as on a trainer for the purposes of the law - whether it's on an A frame or a trailer.

And damn you all.. you made me wonder what categories I have on my license so I went to check, and now I realise my license isn't in my wallet... I hope it's still at home somewhere and not lost (I'm in a hotel for work) :-X :-X :-[
Whether it's an a frame, a trailer or a car, as long as your max weight is less than 12 tonne, it's fine.....as far as I can see.
I certainly wouldn't like to try it, entitled or not. Fine on motorways and some a roads, but I think I'd be a bit dodgy on smaller roads.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 22:13:10
the link i got only goes back to 1976
they probably think anyone who passed their test before then is pushing up daiseys  ;D
1973 for me, but the dates on my license just say <1984.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 22:14:15
I've been towing all kinds of trailers for donkeys years building equipment, classic cars + my twin axle 26 foot caravan so a little car on an A frame is going to be a piece of  piss.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 22:15:50
I've been towing all kinds of trailers for donkeys years building equipment, classic cars + my twin axle 26 foot caravan so a little car on an A frame is going to be a piece of  piss.
You haven't bought the motor home yet, let's not get carried away  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 22:19:45
The change to C1E includes a retrospective limit of 750kgs   (8,250kgs MTW) unless you pass a +E test for the applicable vehicle.

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 15 May 2019, 22:24:57
The change to C1E includes a retrospective limit of 750kgs   (8,250kgs MTW) unless you pass a +E test for the applicable vehicle.

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car
So a 6 tonne motor home would be ok then  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 22:37:09
If you're going to do it, do it proper...

https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/motorhomes/buyers-guide/motorhomes/details/1130-gmax/135015

Will gladly take a Fiat 500 in the boot 8)

Only 326k...
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 May 2019, 22:38:02
The change to C1E includes a retrospective limit of 750kgs   (8,250kgs MTW) unless you pass a +E test for the applicable vehicle.

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car
So a 6 tonne motor home would be ok then  ;D
Yes, but the trailer would still be limited to 750kgs as it's a van/truck and not a car :y
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 15 May 2019, 22:49:59
I've been towing all kinds of trailers for donkeys years building equipment, classic cars + my twin axle 26 foot caravan so a little car on an A frame is going to be a piece of  piss.
You haven't bought the motor home yet, let's not get carried away  ;D
.


Got to spend a few bob on the flat yet, new kitchen bathroom, windows doors etc. Make it more attractive belonged to wifes stepbrother , slightly eccentric character never did anything to the place as it is would sell for about 330,000 intend spending about 25,000 on it before going on the market for 425,000. In its favour is where it is + he renewed the lease last year so it has 124 year lease.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: biggriffin on 16 May 2019, 06:41:15
 https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories


https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/towing-motorhome/
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 16 May 2019, 08:56:22
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 16 May 2019, 10:11:13
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 May 2019, 11:43:15
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 16 May 2019, 11:45:42
The roads have got enough cars towing pikey wagons. The last thing we need is more pikey wagons towing cars.  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 May 2019, 12:20:47
The roads have got enough cars towing pikey wagons. The last thing we need is more pikey wagons towing cars.  ;D

It gets worse. Most pikey wagons run on derv, which kills all the black babies in Africa.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 16 May 2019, 12:47:10
The roads have got enough cars towing pikey wagons. The last thing we need is more pikey wagons towing cars.  ;D

It gets worse. Most pikey wagons run on derv, which kills all the black babies in Africa.
Wrong.......again. Diesel particulates pollute the immediate area. CO2 from petrol engines cause global warming and kill everything. And your huge petrol engine, coupled with the shit your other ugly car kicks out, are doing more than most to ensure the deaths of black babies.  :)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 16 May 2019, 12:49:07
That's why my wife pays 30 per annum to tax her diesel astra, and you pay over a grand for your two planet killers.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: biggriffin on 16 May 2019, 12:58:32
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)


Tilbo's best friends at the moment with HMRC, maybe the lord should advise on some wealth avoidance schemes, I hear laptops and old Vauxhall's are good taxable write offs. :D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 16 May 2019, 13:25:06
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)
.


Opti there is no end to it at the moment just collected 218.00 on our lotto tickets , just wish I had this run of luck 40 years ago.😀
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: dave the builder on 16 May 2019, 13:47:17
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)


Tilbo's best friends at the moment with HMRC, maybe the lord should advise on some wealth avoidance schemes, I hear laptops and old Vauxhall's are good taxable write offs. :D
Indeed  :)
Buy another Omega Mr Tilbo
the fuel bill alone will eat a fair chunk of any spare cash  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 May 2019, 14:02:53
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)


Tilbo's best friends at the moment with HMRC, maybe the lord should advise on some wealth avoidance schemes, I hear laptops and old Vauxhall's are good taxable write offs. :D

Hmmmm......old laptops. ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Tilbo on 16 May 2019, 14:26:45
I bet Tilbo is welling up at all the worry you guys have for him!  ::)  ;D



With 400,000 coming our way I'm very worried.
😀😁😂


.......plus the 14000 you recently won.

Life must be a real bitch at the moment..... :D :) ;)


Tilbo's best friends at the moment with HMRC, maybe the lord should advise on some wealth avoidance schemes, I hear laptops and old Vauxhall's are good taxable write offs. :D



Having been employed by Her Majesty for virtually all my working life I have no problems with paying my share , just hate all the bloody scroungers who sit on their arses & expect  it all handed to them on a plate.
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Andy B on 16 May 2019, 15:19:03
And the one thing that catches all posh weekend pikeys out is have you got the correct license class to drive it.espically if your going to put a trailer or car behind it.

I don't think that's generally a problem for most of old farts here, though I'm pretty you need a medical to retain the 7.5 ton part when you reach 70

Oi, I'm not that old :-\
You sure?  ::)
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 May 2019, 17:04:13
That's why my wife pays 30 per annum to tax her diesel astra, and you pay over a grand for your two planet killers.

Kick a man when he's down......and poor. :-\
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: STEMO on 16 May 2019, 17:18:47
That's why my wife pays 30 per annum to tax her diesel astra, and you pay over a grand for your two planet killers.

Kick a man when he's down......and poor. :-\
Of course, these are two of the mantras I grew up with:
Never kick a man till he's down, and the famous biblical saying
Do unto others before they do unto you.  ;D
Title: Re: Any motorhome owners on here.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 May 2019, 11:05:01
That's why my wife pays 30 per annum to tax her diesel astra, and you pay over a grand for your two planet killers.

Kick a man when he's down......and poor. :-\
Of course, these are two of the mantras I grew up with:
Never kick a man till he's down, and the famous biblical saying
Do unto others before they do unto you.  ;D


This would be the scouse mantra, I presume. :D