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Title: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 11:33:50
Downside Motors, my local Vx dealer, for some reason no longer supply spare Vx keys. I went to Saltford Motors, another Vx dealer, to order one, The receptionist said they could supply, would be about 200, outrageous I said. He fetched the service manager, who was of a similar opinion. I bought my last Omega for 190, I observed, and it gave 4 years trouble free service.

There must be a better way. I see Vx key blanks on e-bay for 4. I expect Timpsons would cut them for me. There remains the synchronised chip. I have many old Vx keys from dead Astras and Omegas, would they contain similar chips? That just leaves the synchronisation. Please advise.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Nick W on 31 July 2019, 11:38:41
Same advice as always: find an independent locksmith who does cars and use them. You want a key(immobiliser and remote) for a common, mass-market car. I would expect to get all three of those brand new, while I wait, for less than 100. They don't need the car pass either.
Getting a key blank cut, so you can unlock the doors and steering lock is something any high street locksmith will do for a few quid - buy the blank from them, then if it doesn't work it's their problem to fix!
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 12:17:12
Thanks.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: neil74 on 31 July 2019, 12:28:45
I still need to get the blank key I bought from Alasdair cut so I have a spare for my car if I need it..
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Andy B on 31 July 2019, 13:01:02
If its any consolation Mercedes will relieve you of 230 for a new key ..... and I believe you can't programme an old key.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 17:15:51
Some while ago I had an Omega ignition lock fail. Too mean to buy a new lock and keys, I changed the ignition lock for a spare lock with 2 keys. I taped the chip from the original key to the replacement lock, and it worked. Of course I used the original keys in the door locks. I wonder if this would work in a Vectra?
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Nick W on 31 July 2019, 17:22:38
Some while ago I had an Omega ignition lock fail. Too mean to buy a new lock and keys, I changed the ignition lock for a spare lock with 2 keys. I taped the chip from the original key to the replacement lock, and it worked. Of course I used the original keys in the door locks. I wonder if this would work in a Vectra?


Instead of buying  a new key??
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Andy B on 31 July 2019, 18:13:26
Some while ago I had an Omega ignition lock fail. Too mean to buy a new lock and keys, I changed the ignition lock for a spare lock with 2 keys. I taped the chip from the original key to the replacement lock, and it worked. Of course I used the original keys in the door locks. I wonder if this would work in a Vectra?

You should have just made a barrel fit the original key .... you must have had enough dead or dying Vauxhalls to swap the tumblers from
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 18:31:08
Some while ago I had an Omega ignition lock fail. Too mean to buy a new lock and keys, I changed the ignition lock for a spare lock with 2 keys. I taped the chip from the original key to the replacement lock, and it worked. Of course I used the original keys in the door locks. I wonder if this would work in a Vectra?


Instead of buying  a new key??
Yes. It worked a treat, I reckonned no-one would steal a 15 year old Omega, and no-one did. Only inconvenience was having different keys for door and ignition.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 18:32:21
Some while ago I had an Omega ignition lock fail. Too mean to buy a new lock and keys, I changed the ignition lock for a spare lock with 2 keys. I taped the chip from the original key to the replacement lock, and it worked. Of course I used the original keys in the door locks. I wonder if this would work in a Vectra?

You should have just made a barrel fit the original key .... you must have had enough dead or dying Vauxhalls to swap the tumblers from
Right. That did not occur to me.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Nick W on 31 July 2019, 18:33:25
I meant, why would you do this for your Vectra, when all you need is a new key? Keys - and the locks they open -  are wear items after all.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 18:42:46
If its any consolation Mercedes will relieve you of 230 for a new key ..... and I believe you can't programme an old key.
Including car pass 25, parts 111.57, labour 66 and VAT 35.51, my key cost 213.08, so not much less that the Mercedes charge. Ouch!
It makes buying a car with 2 keys more attractive, or making do with just the one supplied and getting a locks only key as backup. Certainly my daughter is forever locking her key in the car.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 31 July 2019, 18:49:48
Why not just get a blank cut and hide it somewhere under the bumper etc, so at least she can then open the car and retrieve the proper keyfob to turn the alarm off.  ???

Cheap, simple and effective.  :y
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 18:57:50
Why not just get a blank cut and hide it somewhere under the bumper etc, so at least she can then open the car and retrieve the proper keyfob to turn the alarm off.  ???

Cheap, simple and effective.  :y
Good tip. I'd forgotten the alarm, but I believe it only honks for 30 seconds even if I do not find the original key.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 July 2019, 19:02:08
Be aware, most high street key cutters will not cut blanks they don't supply, and often they want 30 for a blank.

My blanks cost me less than a tenner, including transponder, from any dodgy site on the Internet...   ...usually CHina ;D.  Fobs cost me about 30 from a dealer - worth paying the extra for the genuine part.  My dealer charges about 25 by the time VAT goes on it for a carpass, which is steep, and we normally end up in a deeper negotiation.

The prices you are getting quoted TP, almost makes it worth buying a Tech2, given the number of Tech2 capable cars you buy (ie, pre Insignia, Astra J etc)


Be wary of the key cloners that many locksmiths offer, as most of the time it is a cloned fob, which will suffer sync issues quickly if you use both keys.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 19:19:23
I meant, why would you do this for your Vectra, when all you need is a new key? Keys - and the locks they open -  are wear items after all.
Because a new key (with chip and synchronised) from Vx cost me 213.
When I had spare Omega locks and keys it was a no brainer. I wonder if Omega parts would fit Vectras and Astras. Maybe they would. If I could leave my one chip in the car then I could cheaply duplicate the key. The alarm might be embarrassing, I could remove the honker and just leave the lights to flash.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Nick W on 31 July 2019, 20:34:10
I meant, why would you do this for your Vectra, when all you need is a new key? Keys - and the locks they open -  are wear items after all.
Because a new key (with chip and synchronised) from Vx cost me 213.
When I had spare Omega locks and keys it was a no brainer. I wonder if Omega parts would fit Vectras and Astras. Maybe they would. If I could leave my one chip in the car then I could cheaply duplicate the key. The alarm might be embarrassing, I could remove the honker and just leave the lights to flash.




But as we've repeatedly posted, there are much cheaper and more convenient ways of getting new keys/remote/chips for these cars.
Even then, I've wasted too much time both personally and professionally on worn/damaged lock barrels and steering locks to consider swapping used parts to save 200. Nor do I believe in having just one key; a spare is one of the first things I buy if a new to me car doesn't have one.

Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: terry paget on 31 July 2019, 22:36:55
I meant, why would you do this for your Vectra, when all you need is a new key? Keys - and the locks they open -  are wear items after all.
Because a new key (with chip and synchronised) from Vx cost me 213.
When I had spare Omega locks and keys it was a no brainer. I wonder if Omega parts would fit Vectras and Astras. Maybe they would. If I could leave my one chip in the car then I could cheaply duplicate the key. The alarm might be embarrassing, I could remove the honker and just leave the lights to flash.




But as we've repeatedly posted, there are much cheaper and more convenient ways of getting new keys/remote/chips for these cars.
Even then, I've wasted too much time both personally and professionally on worn/damaged lock barrels and steering locks to consider swapping used parts to save 200. Nor do I believe in having just one key; a spare is one of the first things I buy if a new to me car doesn't have one.
I have not yet found a local car locksmith. I will persevere.
Title: Re: 200 for a spare key?
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 31 July 2019, 22:39:06
I have not yet found a local car locksmith. I will persevere.

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