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Title: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 20:06:12
56 plate 1.2 sxi corsa. How much would ved cost ? Whats a realistic mpg figure overall ? Advert says "chain rattles on startup for 1-2 seconds". Likely to be terminal / a major problem, or something that can be lived with ?
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2019, 20:16:50
The answer to your first two will be on auto trader/ honest john. As for the chain, wifey's three year old astra takes a couple of seconds for the hydraulic tensioner to fill and sounds nasty. Engine characteristic according to Vx.
If you've got the reg, road tax is here:
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tax/by-vrm/?vrm=Pk14xrn
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 20:18:20
Thank you muchly for an uncharacteristically sensible post.  :y :P
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2019, 20:21:15
Thank you muchly for an uncharacteristically sensible post.  :y :P
Hmmmm......you're welcome, if you meant it.
Or far cough, if you were being sarcastic.  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 31 July 2019, 20:26:40
lots of common problems
chain rattle on start up is very common on corsa and astra 1.2 & 1.4 z12xep z14xep
they also suffer low oil pressure when warm, water leaking into the footwells from the scuttle ,handbrake cables seize and snap if not greased (but are cheap to replace)
they are OK for learners but astra 1.6 is a better option for a run-around if you have decent No claims bonus etc
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 20:46:13
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2019, 20:49:34
1.2 has absolutely no poke, Albs. You'll be up and down the box just to keep it at a reasonable lick.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 31 July 2019, 20:54:56
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.
I hear Honda c90's are good on fuel and cheap tax  :P
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2019, 20:57:34
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.
If the car is what you're after, I wouldn't let £13 a month put you off.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 31 July 2019, 21:00:22
Buy an omega
they are cheap to tax and fuel up

cheap to buy too  :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 21:09:12
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback, so trying to make the sums as close as I can get them. VED for the 190 is around £250 p.a. but fuel is approx. £10 per month on average.
A little hatch which does around 50mpg will cost around £50 per month on fuel, but if the VED was zero or close to it, it closes the gap up to a degree.
Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible, and not needing the constant maintenance that the 30 year old 190 needs. Im getting to old for it tbh.
Its only for getting to work and back after all.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 31 July 2019, 21:23:47
you won't get 50 MPG out of a corsa ,even if you drive like a girl
you can get about 40mpg out of an astra H 1.6 and tax is 195
astra H 1.7 CDTI is very good on fuel (we have 2 such tractors) some are low tax too ,not sure how that works  :-\

how much is your 190 to fix ?
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2019, 21:26:21
Full spec:
https://www.parkers.co.uk/vauxhall/corsa/hatchback-2006/12-sxi-3d/specs/
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 21:35:33
you won't get 50 MPG out of a corsa ,even if you drive like a girl
you can get about 40mpg out of an astra H 1.6 and tax is 195
astra H 1.7 CDTI is very good on fuel (we have 2 such tractors) some are low tax too ,not sure how that works  :-\

how much is your 190 to fix ?


Not even sure what the problem is yet. Too much time at work to spend much time on diagnosing. I have a bit of a suspicion that its the fuel pump. If it is, they are rare and expensive and need special tools to install and set up. The other thing is that it always needs something doing, which I used to love doing, but Im starting to feel too old for it and worn out for it now*. Have a list of jobs to do to both cars, and never seem to be able to make headway with them like I used to.

*Im not quite 60, but its been a fickin hard life.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 21:37:12
Citreon C2 diesel would fit the bill. 60mpg £30 pa VED. Problem is its fickin French.I don't think I could ever forgive myself for buying one.  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 31 July 2019, 21:40:42
a 2006 could be a corsa c or d , it's the change-over year

having had a couple of corsa c on the fleet a couple of years ,we got rid recently , which I'm happy about  ::)
I think astra H is a much better/robust car at that price-point

I was also very happy to dump the french turd Citreon from the fleet last year  ;D :D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 31 July 2019, 22:36:55
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: henryd on 31 July 2019, 22:48:00
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.

You wouldn't  want my Saab then,ved  is £48 per month :-X
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 July 2019, 23:03:18
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y

If I could find a cheap one it would be perfect. Got a charging point thing at work I can use.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: annihilator on 01 August 2019, 07:56:58
Astra G mk4 1.7 CDTi 16V LS ECO4
£30 ved 60mpg if you can find one.  :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Steve B on 01 August 2019, 12:58:43
One of the main probs with these little carsa's is the timing chain rattle,and thats what they get rid of them owing to it being a day job in a garage to have it sorted.
Well its a fairly easy and rewarding job to do on your drive,ive done three of them now and once you have finished the job and turn the key it sounds a different car to the one you had rattling away earlier.... the chain kit will cost you around £80 for a good one.


Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: biggriffin on 01 August 2019, 14:14:49
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.

You wouldn't  want my Saab then,ved  is £48 per month :-X


 Mines £315 a year,. Nearly costs as much to run as the mv6,, and not as much fun
 :-\
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Andy B on 01 August 2019, 14:20:27
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.

You wouldn't  want my Saab then,ved  is £48 per month :-X

I got rid of my £500+ VED R Class .... the ML350 is now 'only' £300  :y :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 August 2019, 16:04:49
If you can find one, a Citroën AX diesel :y cracking B road car which uses next to no fuel and will probably run on chip fat :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Keith ABS on 01 August 2019, 16:06:52
 Monaro is £315 for 6 months >:(
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: henryd on 01 August 2019, 16:07:20
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.

You wouldn't  want my Saab then,ved  is £48 per month :-X


 Mines £315 a year,. Nearly costs as much to run as the mv6,, and not as much fun
 :-\

It is a lot but its good fun 8),if mine was manual ved would be more sensible but hey ho as I really like the car :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 01 August 2019, 18:02:41
Monaro is £315 for 6 months >:(
But it is a big V8 with a "go opps yourself" soundtrack, so all in all, still pretty good value  8)
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2019, 22:51:39
I hate to admit it, but Im considering this !!
https://www.gumtree.com/p/renault/renault-clit-dci-red-59-reg/1348093352
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Andy B on 01 August 2019, 22:56:12
I hate to admit it, but Im considering this !!
https://www.gumtree.com/p/renault/renault-clit-dci-red-59-reg/1348093352

but it's French & it's a Renault!  ??? ???

 ;)
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2019, 22:58:19
I know.  :-[ :o...……...and I find it hard to belive it averages 64.2mpg.  ???
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Entwood on 01 August 2019, 22:59:27
I hate to admit it, but Im considering this !!
https://www.gumtree.com/p/renault/renault-clit-dci-red-59-reg/1348093352

Mrs E has a little cli o, and as a shopping trolley/short distance commutor I can't fault it... economical, resonable nippy/agile and very reliable .. I couldn't sit in it for more than an hour as it would kill my back .. but for shorter trips .. no problems at all.

edited to get around the profanity of the word filter .......
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2019, 23:00:41
My trip to work takes about 35 minutes, so it might be just what I need.  :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: henryd on 02 August 2019, 10:26:14
I know.  :-[ :o...……...and I find it hard to belive it averages 64.2mpg.  ???

They do with ease,even the 1.2 petrol will do mid 40's :y,you won't be running a dci clit on veggy oil though :-X
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: STEMO on 02 August 2019, 11:25:36
Wifey's Captur 1.5dci was doing around 50mpg between Barnsley and Sheffield with zero motorway driving.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: zirk on 02 August 2019, 15:30:57
Ive got 2 Corsa 1.2's, ones a a Van and the other a 3 Door Car, both are Dual Fuel LPG and save me an absolute fortune in Fuel Money.

I would highly recommend them for little cheap run arounds , ok there not the fastest things on the planet but do a good job of MPG, wack them in 5th at 25mph upwards and they will save you fuel.

Plodding in and out of London I get around 37mpg on LPG, thats about the same as around 44 MPG on Petrol litre for litre, but cost wise at 55p a litre for LPG works out the same as buying Petrol or Diesel and getting around 90 mpg (6.5p a Mile). On a Motorway or good run I can squeeze about another 30% out on MPG.

the 1.2 is the one to go for, forget the 1L which is a 3 Pot theres just not enough torque and your end up potentially doing more fuel.

Chain rattle on Start up is fairly normal for a 60K Plus Corsa and nothing to worry about, as for the rest there a cheap fix to keep on the Road.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 August 2019, 18:01:18
I know.  :-[ :o...……...and I find it hard to belive it averages 64.2mpg.  ???

They do with ease,even the 1.2 petrol will do mid 40's :y,you won't be running a dci clit on veggy oil though :-X
Not planning on doing so Henry. The vegoil experiment last nearly 10 years and saved me lot of money when I really needed to do so.
Money isnt quite as big a problem , now but lack of energy to do the collecting, filtering and look after a 30 year old car is though.  ;)
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 02 August 2019, 20:45:06
I'd imagine that cars capable of running on veggie oil are getting pretty thin on the ground these days?
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 August 2019, 21:38:07
Yep.Although some modern ones can run on a mixture of vegoil / diesel apparently.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: henryd on 03 August 2019, 10:54:58
Yep.Although some modern ones can run on a mixture of vegoil / diesel apparently.

Not many,A mate tried a Psa 2.0 hdi on it and didn't end well :-\
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2019, 11:10:35
I want something with high mpg and low or zero ved, for three fifths of far call, obviously.  :)
Corsa is £145 pa for ved, which as too high, although the car itself is cheap, so I shall have a think.
I hear Honda c90's are good on fuel and cheap tax  :P

.......and chasing chickens.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2019, 11:22:57
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y

If I could find a cheap one it would be perfect. Got a charging point thing at work I can use.


......and just think of all the sexy girls it would attract.
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 03 August 2019, 12:26:10
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y

If I could find a cheap one it would be perfect. Got a charging point thing at work I can use.


......and just think of all the sexy girls it would attract.

Yep and with 2 days to go it's only £834!  :y

What's not to like!  ???  :)
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 August 2019, 12:47:03
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y

If I could find a cheap one it would be perfect. Got a charging point thing at work I can use.


......and just think of all the sexy girls it would attract.

Yep and with 2 days to go it's only £834!  :y

What's not to like!  ???  :)

Are you taking the piss? :)

Oh, sorry, I forgot,  any old bag of shite must seem desirable after a Morris Marina coupe. :D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: dave the builder on 03 August 2019, 13:24:14
"This example has only does 25,780 miles"
it's done that many miles already  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 03 August 2019, 13:35:54
Im trying to justify to myself replacing the chip fat wagon (whether or not I get it fixed) with a small more modern hatchback.......

Not looking for something exciting to drive, just as cheap to run as possible....

Its only for getting to work and back after all.

Sounds like Albs is the perfect candidate for an EV (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-WIZ-ELECTRIC-CAR-BRAND-NEW-MOT-FULL-SERVICE-HISTORY-DAB-RARE-AIRCON-MODEL/202744767257?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D57478%26meid%3D51df59586ec64c398b82331b1f2fbe43%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D183901906498%26itm%3D202744767257%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851).  :y

If I could find a cheap one it would be perfect. Got a charging point thing at work I can use.


......and just think of all the sexy girls it would attract.

Yep and with 2 days to go it's only £834!  :y

What's not to like!  ???  :)

Are you taking the piss? :)

Oh, sorry, I forgot,  any old bag of shite must seem desirable after a Morris Marina coupe. :D

Take the piss? Moi?  ???   

I'm merely thinking of dear old Alb's welfare, that's all.  :) 

It even has air conditioning!  :y
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 August 2019, 16:21:14
It has a/c heated / cooled seats, DAB radio etc. You can only use these on your drive while its still plugged into the mains, as the battery range has dropped to seven miles and it needs new ones.  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa questions.
Post by: Sir Tigger QC on 03 August 2019, 16:28:13
It has a/c heated / cooled seats, DAB radio etc. You can only use these on your drive while its still plugged into the mains, as the battery range has dropped to seven miles and it needs new ones.  ;D

Pah a minor detail!  ::)

An EV of that vintage would use lead acid batteries, so chuck a couple of Varta's in it and you're on your way!  :y