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Title: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: grifter on 20 August 2019, 20:15:14
I'd seen the glass fluttering at mway speed, thought not good, then day or so later parked in a bit where I put mirror in to avoid being hit by passing traffic and out it fell and cracked in 2 bits. I'm wanting to buy replacement but not sure if the fleabay ones have the bend in them for the blind spot. Can anyone recommend where to get good replacement?

I'm not sure if this had been replaced before as the backing plate looks almost like it's been burnt/chemical reaction or something, and there is a slight reflection in it like it was shiny plastic at one point.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 August 2019, 20:44:09
I have used omega52 on eBay to buy door mirror units so I always have spare glass of the correct type for my Omega, as well as everything else that comes with them.

I looked recently and he still had a few units available ;)



Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 August 2019, 20:52:28
Just checked the eBay site and there a quite a few whole units available, plus glass by themselves.

 ;)

Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: grifter on 20 August 2019, 22:09:24
Just checked the eBay site and there a quite a few whole units available, plus glass by themselves.

 ;)

Cool will check that out, thanks  :y
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Nick W on 20 August 2019, 22:20:04
How about a new one for a tenner (http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132337138716&category=36682&pm=1&ds=0&t=1562932422000&ver=0)?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 August 2019, 10:13:13
How about a new one for a tenner (http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132337138716&category=36682&pm=1&ds=0&t=1562932422000&ver=0)?

Because the OP stressed he wants to ensure his replacement is of the same design and quality as the genuine Vx Omega article.

But there are replacement pattern ones on Ebay which he will see and he will no doubt decide what he wants ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Nick W on 21 August 2019, 10:23:05
How about a new one for a tenner (http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132337138716&category=36682&pm=1&ds=0&t=1562932422000&ver=0)?

Because the OP stressed he wants to ensure his replacement is of the same design and quality as the genuine Vx Omega article.



Nearly 20 years use will make those original attributes considerably less important.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 August 2019, 11:27:01
How about a new one for a tenner (http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=132337138716&category=36682&pm=1&ds=0&t=1562932422000&ver=0)?

Because the OP stressed he wants to ensure his replacement is of the same design and quality as the genuine Vx Omega article.



Nearly 20 years use will make those original attributes considerably less important.

Really?! :o

My on car mirrors, and my stock of "used" ones are as good as they were when so called "brand new" and perform as they did, in my case, 16 years ago.  Glass in mirrors that do not come against a strong stream of air, like the windscreen does, and has not been cleaned with any corrosive or abrasive agent, should not have any deterioration in their ability to function, including the bevelled edge. ;)   
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: johnnydog on 22 August 2019, 16:01:44
My experience of aftermarket mirror glass replacements is poor, both with Vauxhalls / Omegas and also with other vehicle makes.They either don't fit properly because the clip retainer ring is the wrong profile or shape, or the heated element terminals are the wrong size and need modifying. Many arent the exact shape as the original either.
The tenner spent on a cheap aftermarket mirror glass is generally a waste of money, in my opinion, especially when it falls off at speed either scratching the door panel if the wires stay connected or smashed on the road if they part company.
I would always buy genuine VX mirror glasses, either new or used. I have never had a problem with used genuine mirror glasses. They fit and look correct, whether they have the heated element symbol on them or not, and are usually cheaper than a tenner.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 16:56:43
My experience of aftermarket mirror glass replacements is poor, both with Vauxhalls / Omegas and also with other vehicle makes.They either don't fit properly because the clip retainer ring is the wrong profile or shape, or the heated element terminals are the wrong size and need modifying. Many arent the exact shape as the original either.
The tenner spent on a cheap aftermarket mirror glass is generally a waste of money, in my opinion, especially when it falls off at speed either scratching the door panel if the wires stay connected or smashed on the road if they part company.
I would always buy genuine VX mirror glasses, either new or used. I have never had a problem with used genuine mirror glasses. They fit and look correct, whether they have the heated element symbol on them or not, and are usually cheaper than a tenner.

And that is exactly why I always buy genuine Vx/GM parts, new or used, unless there is absolutely no alternative, which thank God is still rare, so far!! That way you know the quality, specification and reliability will suit your Omega 8) :y
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2019, 17:12:17
A second hand one will have weak demisters, and possibly the coating is on its last legs.

Its easy enough to ask any egay* sellers if they have the blind spot bit.


*other outlets are available, and generally infinitely better.  But egay suits the bone idle.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 17:17:44
A second hand one will have weak demisters, and possibly the coating is on its last legs.

Its easy enough to ask any egay* sellers if they have the blind spot bit.


*other outlets are available, and generally infinitely better.  But egay suits the bone idle.

Really! ::) ::)

In all my years experience I have never known that to be the case :D ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2019, 17:20:25
A second hand one will have weak demisters, and possibly the coating is on its last legs.

Its easy enough to ask any egay* sellers if they have the blind spot bit.


*other outlets are available, and generally infinitely better.  But egay suits the bone idle.

Really! ::) ::)

In all my years experience I have never known that to be the case :D ;)
That's the reason I normally replace mine, rather than glass damage.  Manually wiping the mirrors is so last century.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2019, 17:28:16
Oooo, just looked on my 5yr old, Russian, Jag EPC for price for jag mirror glass.

Lets hope they last forever ;D
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2019, 17:30:06
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 18:13:07
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2019, 19:01:39
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
250 aint bad. You look up your Elite one ;).  I'll give you a clue, by the time you add VAT, its 4 digits ;)

Ironically, an online scrappy I use want more for a used one than JLR charge for a new one ;D
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 August 2019, 19:11:58
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
250 aint bad. You look up your Elite one ;).  I'll give you a clue, by the time you add VAT, its 4 digits ;)

Ironically, an online scrappy I use want more for a used one than JLR charge for a new one ;D
The price of convenience  ::)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 19:31:05
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
250 aint bad. You look up your Elite one ;).  I'll give you a clue, by the time you add VAT, its 4 digits ;)

Ironically, an online scrappy I use want more for a used one than JLR charge for a new one ;D

That is why TB I have built up a stock of four of them from EBay, although it was five before I crunched one! ::) :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: biggriffin on 22 August 2019, 19:57:37
Might help.
 https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=144876.0

Item 6.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 August 2019, 20:09:43
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
250 aint bad. You look up your Elite one ;).  I'll give you a clue, by the time you add VAT, its 4 digits ;)

Ironically, an online scrappy I use want more for a used one than JLR charge for a new one ;D

That is why TB I have built up a stock of four of them from EBay, although it was five before I crunched one! ::) :D :D ;)
Are we talking Omegas now, or still mirrors?  :D
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 20:14:49
Though the mirror (without glass or covers) is reasonable at 250+VAT, and that's a powerfold one.

Now that is expensive :o ;D ;D ;D

Go the Ebay route TB.................oh, hang on, maybe with your record of internet buying, you shouldn't!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
250 aint bad. You look up your Elite one ;).  I'll give you a clue, by the time you add VAT, its 4 digits ;)

Ironically, an online scrappy I use want more for a used one than JLR charge for a new one ;D

That is why TB I have built up a stock of four of them from EBay, although it was five before I crunched one! ::) :D :D ;)
Are we talking Omegas now, or still mirrors?  :D

 ;D ;D ;D no, mirrors not the cars thank God!  I'm not that bad! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2019, 20:23:46
I believe my driver's door mirror (just the glass bit) is silly money ... they auto dim along with the interior mirror
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 August 2019, 20:38:19
I believe my driver's door mirror (just the glass bit) is silly money ... they auto dim along with the interior mirror

That's a good idea :y

Trouble is, as you hint, we pay through the nose for all this technology :o :o

What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D

I still love those fitted to the big old Fords though. They reflected true class! :D :D :y
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: johnnydog on 22 August 2019, 20:41:00
A second hand one will have weak demisters, and possibly the coating is on its last legs.

Its easy enough to ask any egay* sellers if they have the blind spot bit.


*other outlets are available, and generally infinitely better.  But egay suits the bone idle.

The mirror glass on all my Omegas demist correctly and the 'silver' on the back are presumably all good as there is no visible discolouring of the glass itself. Going off the performance of my mirror glasses which are all well over 15 years old, I have no reason to doubt the performance of any secondhand mirror glasses as long as they are visibly in good order.
It's a bit of a sweeping statement to say that all secondhand mirror glasses will have weak demisters.......
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2019, 23:53:26
.....

What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D  .....

Those wing mirrors that needed two of you to set up?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2019, 23:57:20
I believe my driver's door mirror (just the glass bit) is silly money ... they auto dim along with the interior mirror

That's a good idea :y


What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D

I still love those fitted to the big old Fords though. They reflected true class! :D :D :y

Dis I say they were silly money .... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-ML-W166-Front-Right-Door-Mirror-Glass-A1668100419-NEW-GENUINE/264391733956?epid=1914181109&hash=item3d8ef9b2c4:g:hMMAAOSw1g1dIzKh
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Nick W on 23 August 2019, 00:10:03
.....

What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D  .....

Those wing mirrors that needed two of you to set up?  ;D ;D


But that actually gave a good view behind you? With no blind spots? What happened to stuff that works properly?
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 August 2019, 00:31:52
.....

What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D  .....

Those wing mirrors that needed two of you to set up?  ;D ;D


But that actually gave a good view behind you? With no blind spots? What happened to stuff that works properly?
Design...
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2019, 01:47:15
A second hand one will have weak demisters, and possibly the coating is on its last legs.

Its easy enough to ask any egay* sellers if they have the blind spot bit.


*other outlets are available, and generally infinitely better.  But egay suits the bone idle.

The mirror glass on all my Omegas demist correctly and the 'silver' on the back are presumably all good as there is no visible discolouring of the glass itself. Going off the performance of my mirror glasses which are all well over 15 years old, I have no reason to doubt the performance of any secondhand mirror glasses as long as they are visibly in good order.
It's a bit of a sweeping statement to say that all secondhand mirror glasses will have weak demisters.......
The demisters do degrade.  Compare an old one to a new one, and you will see.
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2019, 01:49:03
I believe my driver's door mirror (just the glass bit) is silly money ... they auto dim along with the interior mirror
Yeah, that's what mine has, along with the blind spot alert icons.

All nice to have, but pricey when it needs replacing (though not as bad as Merc ones, price wise)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: biggriffin on 23 August 2019, 10:28:13
I've got 4 on one side.The double mirror, heated, electric is 300+vat.
  (https://i.postimg.cc/xCzdj7Hc/IMG-20190823-102512.jpg)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 August 2019, 20:17:01
I believe my driver's door mirror (just the glass bit) is silly money ... they auto dim along with the interior mirror

That's a good idea :y


What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D

I still love those fitted to the big old Fords though. They reflected true class! :D :D :y

Dis I say they were silly money .... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-ML-W166-Front-Right-Door-Mirror-Glass-A1668100419-NEW-GENUINE/264391733956?epid=1914181109&hash=item3d8ef9b2c4:g:hMMAAOSw1g1dIzKh

But it is new and genuine....... ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 August 2019, 20:18:54
.....

What ever happened to those lovely, but basic, wing mirrors mounted on chromed wing like arms?

You know, those ones that misted up, gathered up the rain, and got covered in muck! ;D ;D  .....

Those wing mirrors that needed two of you to set up?  ;D ;D


But that actually gave a good view behind you? With no blind spots? What happened to stuff that works properly?
Design...

Yes, and the need to remove pedestrian stomach opening devices from the front of cars ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 August 2019, 23:58:10
Well, if you will insist on driving down the pavements ::)
Title: Re: Drivers side mirror glass fell out
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 August 2019, 10:05:14
Well, if you will insist on driving down the pavements ::)

No, it is those pesky pedestrians, more and more on their mobile devices, walking down roads! ::) ;D ;D ;D :-* :-*