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Title: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 14 January 2007, 14:34:32
'93 K Plate
3.0 24v Straight 6
141k Miles

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Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Big Steve on 14 January 2007, 15:06:52
Look's better than my K reg Astra, alot less rust :) Nice looking car for the year,
Any plans on doing it up or just going to enjoy driving it.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tanker12uk on 14 January 2007, 15:21:24
I used to love these but I always found them in white up me arse with these funny flashing lights on the front grill  :-[

But they where a great car this one looks nice but please shoot that tin worm on the arches before it eats the car   :'(

Tanker

Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: MikeDundee on 14 January 2007, 15:38:42
Looks good Tunnie :y
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 14 January 2007, 16:36:17
cheers guys i really like it...

Plans for it?

Well damn good service, oil and filter, fuel filter, more cleaning. Then more oil and filters  :)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 January 2007, 16:47:50
Just need to sort the tin worm around the arches, then waxoyl it!

Can you see all the panel similarity with the Omegas?
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: paolo on 14 January 2007, 18:16:56
brilliant!

i want one of those!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Del Boy on 14 January 2007, 19:26:47
Looks like you got a gooden there m8
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Eboy.com on 14 January 2007, 19:35:21
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Looks like you got a gooden there m8
Yes, I reckon he has.  Got some rust on it that really needs treating if he's gonna keep it beyond euro trip.

Is apparently been stood idle for 2 years, so needs a few simple things doing....
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Omegatoy on 14 January 2007, 19:41:19
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cheers guys i really like it...

Plans for it?

Well damn good service, oil and filter, fuel filter, more cleaning. Then more oil and filters  :)

try replacing the blown engine mount before the second oil and filter!!! ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: x25xe on 14 January 2007, 19:45:17
Nice one Tunnie!  ;)

I am GREEN with envy - this is the sort of car that I lusted after in my Senator Brochure.

What I really like is the digital dash along with the overall condition of the car of course.  Boot could do with a bit of a clean out though! ;D

What REALLY does it for me though, and most people will probably think me quite sad, is the full length "wood effect" trims on the doors.  Just like the ones in my Cavalier.  I think that the Omega trims are quite a poor effort.

I wish you every luck with your trip around Europe and may you enjoy ever single mile - you certainly have a mile muncher there!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 14 January 2007, 20:26:39
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Nice one Tunnie!  ;)

I am GREEN with envy - this is the sort of car that I lusted after in my Senator Brochure.

What I really like is the digital dash along with the overall condition of the car of course.  Boot could do with a bit of a clean out though! ;D

What REALLY does it for me though, and most people will probably think me quite sad, is the full length "wood effect" trims on the doors.  Just like the ones in my Cavalier.  I think that the Omega trims are quite a poor effort.

I wish you every luck with your trip around Europe and may you enjoy ever single mile - you certainly have a mile muncher there!


Cheers guys  :y

Graham, might need your expert assistance for that engine mount! Oil filter looks a doddle...

x25xe, next week i might be bringing it down to uni.... so if you wanna meet up and take it for a spin your more than welcome  :y
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: x25xe on 14 January 2007, 21:23:40
Tunnie - That would be great!  Drop me a PM if you are in the area - I work in Uxbridge (on the industrial estate) so if you are at uni it is nice and close.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Ken T on 14 January 2007, 22:59:40
Looks cracking motor. :y How does it compare with the Omega for ride, handling, space?. I am wondering if in designing the Omega they took the basic floorpan/suspension and made it better or cheaper?. :)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Eboy.com on 15 January 2007, 10:09:54
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Looks cracking motor. :y How does it compare with the Omega for ride, handling, space?. I am wondering if in designing the Omega they took the basic floorpan/suspension and made it better or cheaper?. :)
Its unfair to compare the older Senator to newer Omega.  But...

Interior space is similar, but ride and handling aren't up to Omega.  Still very comfortable though...
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: MaxV6 on 15 January 2007, 10:54:55
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Interior space is similar, but ride and handling aren't up to Omega.  Still very comfortable though...


I beg to differ.!

interior space is on the senator is larger... especially with regards to rear seat leg room ...   Senator B was "well endowed" to say the least...   I'm 6'2 with long legs... and i did NOT need the seat all the way back...

but I Do in the Meega.

and even when the Sennie seat was all the way back... the kids had more leg room left than the do in the meega.


although i'd  concede that the ride in the meega is PERHAPS marginally better for some, I personally feel the Senator handles better, especially "on the limit" where I find the Omega much more twitchy...  

overall, I would not consider the Omega a massive improvement on the senator......  probably quite the opposite...   it was a step down...

why?/

Well, the Omega replaced Both the Carlton and Senator.

I WOULD agree that the meega is an improvement on the Carlton...   not massively perhaps... but definitely nontheless.

however the Senator was hugely superior to the Carlton...   and to some extent remains so with the Omega.,


IMHO Vx/opel never made a proper replacement for the Senator.....




Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: nixoro on 15 January 2007, 11:02:07
Just noticed Tunnie the radio looks to be the same as what was in my Omega when i first got it, do the buttons on the panel work ok as mine were crap so added another radio and left the changer in the boot for now.  :) all the same it looks like a good buy.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2007, 12:11:37
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Just noticed Tunnie the radio looks to be the same as what was in my Omega when i first got it, do the buttons on the panel work ok as mine were crap so added another radio and left the changer in the boot for now.  :) all the same it looks like a good buy.

Still got original head unit and cd changer in the boot, not sure whether to get a replacement one or pay £20 to get the car pass... it has a tape slot up front so i can use an adaptor and swap it between iPod / Sat Nav.

Senator Vs Omega? Well its like Senator vs Carlton really... tbh.

Power? Well thats unfair my regular drive is not a 3.0 V6... however with some basic checks and replace some fluids i reckon it would be faster. 80 mph ticks over at about 2.8 rpm  :D

Off the line its quick, but were is most impressive is 30 to xxx mph  :-X

Ride and handling? Well it goes around corners better thanks to the electrically adjustable air suspension, put it in sport mode and corners like a dream. Bit of a boat in comfort, but nice for motorways.

I find the Senator slightly more comfy, it does not absorb the bumps quite as well but it is 15 years old. Wind noise is louder too, but this is only noticed at 80/90+ really.

But my god do i love the sound it makes!  :D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Paul M on 15 January 2007, 22:44:07
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although i'd  concede that the ride in the meega is PERHAPS marginally better for some, I personally feel the Senator handles better, especially "on the limit" where I find the Omega much more twitchy...  

Try a manual MV6, I haven't driven an Elite but I expect the MV6 will be noticably more controllable and fun through the twisties as the stiffer suspension and better control of the manual box really make a difference at the limit.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2007, 23:07:29
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although i'd  concede that the ride in the meega is PERHAPS marginally better for some, I personally feel the Senator handles better, especially "on the limit" where I find the Omega much more twitchy...  

Try a manual MV6, I haven't driven an Elite but I expect the MV6 will be noticably more controllable and fun through the twisties as the stiffer suspension and better control of the manual box really make a difference at the limit.

If i want Elite suspension i put it on comfort mode, if i want an MV6 suspension i put it on Sport!  ;)

I loved driving it at the weekend, a 300 quid car that can do 150mph... if i chip, it can crack 170  :D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Chopsdad on 15 January 2007, 23:30:23
Great condition for the year Tunnie - just need to tidy the boot!  ::)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2007, 23:48:51
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Great condition for the year Tunnie - just need to tidy the boot!  ::)

I only did a half arsed clean (student remember  :D)

The boot has a few bits that needs sorting, has a sill cover for the drivers side. The clips have broken need to get them from the scrappy, also got a replacement water pump on there (cheers Graham  :y)

It needs another good clean really, it was just too cold last weekend.

Got some deadlines this week at uni, looking forward to going back at the weekend to tinker on it  :)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: VXmega on 16 January 2007, 13:21:28
Very nice indeed Tunnie ...... and same color as mine...... have you noticed yet that even beemer and merc drivers move over when you come down the outside lane

And how the traffc boys look at you 'n' your car with a hint of respek

LOL

 :y
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: VXmega on 16 January 2007, 14:12:28
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Interior space is similar, but ride and handling aren't up to Omega.  Still very comfortable though...


I beg to differ.!

interior space is on the senator is larger... especially with regards to rear seat leg room ...   Senator B was "well endowed" to say the least...   I'm 6'2 with long legs... and i did NOT need the seat all the way back...


but I Do in the Meega.

and even when the Sennie seat was all the way back... the kids had more leg room left than the do in the meega.


although i'd  concede that the ride in the meega is PERHAPS marginally better for some, I personally feel the Senator handles better, especially "on the limit" where I find the Omega much more twitchy...  

overall, I would not consider the Omega a massive improvement on the senator......  probably quite the opposite...   it was a step down...

why?/

Well, the Omega replaced Both the Carlton and Senator.

I WOULD agree that the meega is an improvement on the Carlton...   not massively perhaps... but definitely nontheless.

however the Senator was hugely superior to the Carlton...   and to some extent remains so with the Omega.,


IMHO Vx/opel never made a proper replacement for the Senator.....






As much as i love my Omega, I'm going to agree with maxV6
Don't get me wrong guys, i've had a long time love affair with my Senator and have no regrets in buying the Omega
The Senator left a large pair of shoes to fill

IMHO Vx/opel have'nt made a proper replacement for the Omega either
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Omegatoy on 27 July 2018, 15:54:32
lol wheres the pics gone Tunnie! :y
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 27 July 2018, 18:02:52
lol wheres the pics gone Tunnie! :y

Ten years, probably went with the car!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 July 2018, 18:48:33
Christ, its a but dusty in here.  ;D...…………...I also still agree with Maxv6 on this. The Omega was a car to fit between the Carlton and the Senator. I would still love another one.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 27 July 2018, 20:25:26
Wow, old thread. I do have some photos. Let me have a dig...
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 27 July 2018, 20:34:27
Few pics of the old girl:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ftbYnadkYQgUhLxA7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/ftbYnadkYQgUhLxA7)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zJ8zUdzR7vSGnBwB7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/zJ8zUdzR7vSGnBwB7)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WsBu2BX8rCoRk95S8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/WsBu2BX8rCoRk95S8)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iVEtMPEm7n5KgZST6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/iVEtMPEm7n5KgZST6)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 27 July 2018, 20:56:49
Looks lush Mr T! (Not that one, obviously)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Andy B on 30 July 2018, 23:05:01
Mine was the same ... even to the digi dash. I was sorry to see it go, though the rot had started to set  in  :(
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 31 July 2018, 14:45:54
Mine was the same ... even to the digi dash. I was sorry to see it go, though the rot had started to set  in  :(

I'd buy another, but rot/rust would be a big concern.

It will take the 3.2 eventually  :'(
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Eboy.com on 31 July 2018, 19:17:18
Few pics of the old girl:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ftbYnadkYQgUhLxA7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/ftbYnadkYQgUhLxA7)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zJ8zUdzR7vSGnBwB7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/zJ8zUdzR7vSGnBwB7)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WsBu2BX8rCoRk95S8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/WsBu2BX8rCoRk95S8)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iVEtMPEm7n5KgZST6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/iVEtMPEm7n5KgZST6)
God, did I have to be reminded of that...
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 01 August 2018, 09:09:18
I'd have another, lovely engine that straight 6 to tinker on for day to day jobs. Still had a bit of something the Omega's lacked, perhaps the character of that dual ram 4k surge.

If I lost the 3.2 for what ever reason, I would scan the classic ads to see if another was reasonable enough.  :)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 August 2018, 17:52:33
There was something about the character of the straight 6 that the V6 doesn't have. :y

After removing the rose tinted specs, however, how many of them made the 225k trouble free miles that my 3.2 is now on, without cam chain issues and so on?
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 August 2018, 18:20:56
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Omegatoy on 01 August 2018, 20:02:30
There was something about the character of the straight 6 that the V6 doesn't have. :y

After removing the rose tinted specs, however, how many of them made the 225k trouble free miles that my 3.2 is now on, without cam chain issues and so on?

lol had 3 with over 200 on  and my daily had a spare dash board solely for mot time lol, commute was 65miles each way,never took much notice of the actual mileage, as the engines were bullet proof to be honest, (there were not many that blew camchains), :yand still drove really well,didnt mean to cause further arguements when i dragged this from the archives, but it seems to have revived a ot of good memories for all posters!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Nick W on 01 August 2018, 20:09:35
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\


Because the Omega already has close to the ultimate in instruments: black dials with clear white numerals. They need the military traintrack to become the ultimate. Traditional Smiths instruments have never been bettered
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Omegatoy on 01 August 2018, 20:13:20
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-SENATOR-B-CARLTON-OMEGA-A-BRAND-NEW-MANUAL-GEARBOX-FOR-3-0-24V-SE-RARE/123279703569?hash=item1cb40afe11:g:UYAAAOSwcLxYKLdA

gone up in price a bit then,these would change hands for a ton!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 August 2018, 12:56:22
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\
It's a bit Eighties ::)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Andy B on 02 August 2018, 18:06:48
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\
It's a bit Eighties ::)
.....and?  ::) ::) ::)

Mine & Tunnies were of the age that the analogue dash was standard fit, so at least two people preferred the digi dash enough to order it  :y
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Eboy.com on 02 August 2018, 19:53:30
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\
It's a bit Eighties ::)
Exactly, its definitely a 1980s statement.  I had a digidash in my 1990 Astra, and even as a single geeky lad, though it was a bit dated.  I was really glad to get back to proper instruments when the Astra's insurance jumped to over £3k, and it had to go.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 August 2018, 22:55:28
Your both talking baleeks and that's an end of it.  :P ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: BazaJT on 03 August 2018, 08:03:03
One of the few cars I've actually regretted selling was my first Senator B-the second one I had was written off in an accident[not my fault]in Norfolk-I'd be rid of my Omega in exchange for a Senator in a heartbeat-and Both mine were only the 12V versions!
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Andy B on 03 August 2018, 13:59:23
.... Both mine were only the 12V versions!

12 valve & 24 valve cars were like chalk & cheese ..... I had one of each.  :)
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: BazaJT on 03 August 2018, 20:11:20
Never had a 24V to compare but as you say it was a different car with the extra valves[so I'm told by all that had one]the 12V though was so simple to work on-plug changes etc.-and the advantage of a twin row timing chain which I understand was changed to a single row chain on the 24V engine.
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 August 2018, 08:46:57
I still miss the digital dash, even after ten years without it. Cant imagine why it wasn't offered as an option on the Omega.  :-\
It's a bit Eighties ::)
Exactly, its definitely a 1980s statement.  I had a digidash in my 1990 Astra, and even as a single geeky lad, though it was a bit dated.  I was really glad to get back to proper instruments when the Astra's insurance jumped to over £3k, and it had to go.

A mate of mine had a Maestro Vanden Plas with the talking digi dash.  8)

Every so often the speed would go awol and creep up to 188 MPH. This was "unlikely" in that car.
it would also pipe up at random, telling you your fuel was low 100 yds up the road from filling up and so on.
Sadly the only time it was right was when it warned that the "brakes require attention" of course, it was ignored, and it suffered a complete brake failure a couple of days later. ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: tunnie on 05 August 2018, 13:05:06
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 August 2018, 18:10:58
BL were shite at 1950,s technology, so introducing "modern tech" in the 70,s / 80,s was never going to end well.  ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 August 2018, 20:34:42
Failed my first driving test in a Maestro... The instructor had retrofitted power steering to it giving it maximum assistance regardless of speed and so utterly devoid of feedback and stability that it could have made a psychopath seem sensitive  :D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 06 August 2018, 16:06:02
I drove an SD1 3500 with the same characteristics once. It was terrifying.  :o ;D
Title: Re: tunnie's 3.0 24v Senator CD
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 August 2018, 18:36:35
I drove an SD1 3500 with the same characteristics once. It was terrifying.  :o ;D

SD1's were predictable though, in the same way an Omega with the TC disabled is - RWD with a decent front to rear weight ratio. SD1 feels much better when it has an aftermarket steering wheel though!!