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Cars for Sale & wanted / Re: F/S Omega 3.2 V6 Elite Estate 2002
« on: 24 April 2019, 08:27:05 »
Thanks for the clarification.

As the car is sold then this sales thread has run its course.

Locking.

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General Discussion Area / Re: A weekend away?
« on: 17 April 2019, 21:35:56 »
We had some brilliant weekends at Newent.  Lots of work done but as Nige says, it quickly became a place where folks got chunky work done for heehaw and some didn’t even stay overnight to supply a bottle or a box of beer or a pack of burgers for the BBQ.

I wouldn’t like to put a number on the cost of the whisky I shared with the (most willing) virgin phillistines who, I hope, were converted to the greater good.   ;)


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General Discussion Area / Re: Hectic night
« on: 09 April 2019, 20:48:53 »
My sincere apologies to all concerned; it seems that I was given out-of-date information. My "informant" was quite old and now runs a cafe in Dorset! :-[

Ron.

No problem.  Every day is still a school day, no matter how old we get.   :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: Hectic night
« on: 08 April 2019, 22:18:16 »
I too had a final salary pension once .....
Wifey, too. She should have been retiring at 60, now 67.

Likewise.  Mrs H21 is similarly hindered.....

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General Discussion Area / Re: Hectic night
« on: 08 April 2019, 21:25:09 »
Apologies STMO - neglected to add that I’m sorry to read of your plight.  Sadly, the chances of appropriate punishment to the culprit are slim at best, for a varied assortment of reasons.  I hope your financial loss is at a minimum.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Hectic night
« on: 08 April 2019, 21:20:48 »
An senior ex-policeman that I know said that nowadays new recruits join up. find a cushy desk job to do their paperwork and sit back for 30 years until they get their (generous) pension!

Ron.

Rowlocks......

The senior ex policeman (like me) paid 11% of his top line into their pension for 30 years.

They (like me) only get their own coin back.  NO input from anyone else, eg Govt or golden hedge fund, not one brass razzoo from any other source.

The pension percentage taken today from a serving cop pays out tomorrow to the pensioners (again, like me).  No golden bucket somewhere in the Cayman Isles accruing interest.  Retirees are simply living longer and creating a draw that cannot be readily refilled.

Hence the financial requirement for current officers to pay an even bigger percentage of their monthly, for far longer, to get less of a pension as final salary pensions are no longer.  And ongoing loss of motivation and to see ‘the job’ as just that and not a career.

To continue, said senior ex policeman is out of touch of how policing operates now (unlike me...) as police officers are leaving in droves as they are unable to get said ‘cushy-desk jobs’ as they are now occupied by civilians (possibly ex job, ex senior officers, receiving their pensions already) but who now contribute an even greater percentage to government funds by way of taxes.

Or alternatively, someone has choicely taken parts of reality for a sound bite.

Just for clarification, and to put an alternate view to Bigrons Big Broadbrushing of a public misconception.   :)

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 01 April 2019, 16:10:15 »
A lot of the officers who were "culled" have been employed in civilian roles within the Police Service & are used as advisors because of the experience they have.

Define ‘a lot’.

90%? 50%?  10%?

I would suggest that by far and away the vast majority want nothing more to do with the Police Service.  If indeed it is still considered a ‘Service’ and not simply a job.
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Yorkshire 40 percent.

That percentage surprises me.  How many simply retired and got a civi job afterwards?  Not uncommon for that to happen.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 01 April 2019, 15:48:29 »
A lot of the officers who were "culled" have been employed in civilian roles within the Police Service & are used as advisors because of the experience they have.

Define ‘a lot’.

90%? 50%?  10%?

I would suggest that by far and away the vast majority want nothing more to do with the Police Service.  If indeed it is still considered a ‘Service’ and not simply a job.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 01 April 2019, 14:56:56 »
The point that the vast majority neglect to realise is that the 20k extra officers are simple replacing those culled byTM whilst Home Secretary and simply revert to numbers of time past.

In addition, when news outlets and HMG spout that ‘extra patrols’ are being deployed, that does not mean that the magic box of extra officers has been discovered but those already stretched to and beyond breaking point are having rest days cancelled or being removed from an already short staffed area to workin another.

TJF indeed......

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 31 March 2019, 21:16:44 »
Regardless of the money position ... just where do you suddenly get 20,000 SUITABLE people to even start to train as Police Officers ?? It's the same as the left wing luvvies on the health service ... "we need 20,000 more doctors" .. it takes 7 years to train a doctor, and I doubt there are many in the dole queue ...the truth is there are hundreds of vacancies for doctors (and police) at the moment .. and no-one to fil those positions .. simply making more empty positions is a rather foolish outlook IMHO :(

You cannot compare training a police officer with training a doctor.  Training of a PC lasts about 18 weeks at Police Training Colleges, then the next part means they should be fully operational in 2 years.  The police are recruiting new PC's constantly, and over the whole country they will increase the recruiting and training rates to obtain the 20,000 once approved. There are many young people who are suitable for those roles, and all they need is the vacancies to be available for them to be encouraged to join. ;)

Yes you can compare doctors and police officers in this fashion, in my opinion.  For each to be suitably effective in their field, once you take out the quotient of ‘do no harm’ from a doctor, each has to be effective in an extremely short, though comparable, timescale.

The ability to backfil, the current shortfall in both roles is, at best, glacial.

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 31 March 2019, 21:12:17 »
Would you fancy being an unarmed policeman stopping and searching the thugs potentially armed with knives.?  What could possibly go wrong.

No.

Been there, done that.

Even worse now where your wingman simply does not exist to cover your back and even pressing your red button on the radio, when in a rural area, means a second copper to assist is a 20 minute blue light run away.  You would be a long time dead by time they appear.....

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General Discussion Area / Re: Stop and Search powers
« on: 31 March 2019, 21:08:50 »
According to total jobs there are, today, 842 unfilled police vacancies within 30 miles of London ... if what you say is true .. "There are many young people who are suitable for those roles, and all they need is the vacancies to be available for them to be encouraged to join." there would be no vacancies.

Not wanting to pick a fight in any way, but there is a reality that is missed by a lot of commentators .. it is not possible to click ones fingers and produce suitable, qualified, people for most jobs/trades simply because you wish it to be so.... or because it makes a nice political sound bite.

Agree wholeheartedly.

Similar to those luvvies who wish to bring back military national service. 

How many of the already overstretched trained military would additionally be required to persuade the current crop of gender neutral snowflakes mixed with attitude overladen teens who would rather take their ‘entitlement’ of cash from the state for doing fekall?

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General Car Chat / Re: PCP GFV question?
« on: 03 January 2019, 12:39:35 »
Yes, as far as I understand it.

You have a financial deal that requires the GFV to settle the final balloon payment, presumably.

If a buyer wants to give you £48k or whatever, you pay the balloon payment and pocket the balance.  Most garages will look for you to put that surplus into another car but if the price is right, will buy it from you outright and you can walk out with your dosh.

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