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 31 
 on: Yesterday at 22:23:12 
Started by STEMO - Last post by Nick W
The KGB has finally caught up with him, and now all his favourite undisclosed fantasies are coming true......

 32 
 on: Yesterday at 22:22:06 
Started by b4ndit - Last post by Doctor Gollum
Not sure why there seems to be so much fuss about stuff coming from Germany...   ...the main warehouses have always been Germany, so its nothing new.

Ever since I've had my Omegas I've occasionally had to wait the extra day, because the only stock was in Germany.

Likewise some Merc bits  :y
The only unobtanium parts for the trolley are the AMG trimmings... everything else is in stock, worst case 3 working days from Stuttgart.

 33 
 on: Yesterday at 22:18:40 
Started by Zirfeld - Last post by TheBoy
First in the grand scheme of things you are right that farmers are insignificant however break it down to a local level e.g. country or province in that country and Spanish farmers not being able to sell their tomatoes to Britain or Danish bacon or French Beaujolais wine or indeed hundreds maybe thousands of other "insignificant" things and it amounts to a local disaster. Sure the EU can do things like find alternative markets (not easy as the prices are supported) or emergency grants. If you are a farmer you cannot live on emergency grants for ever.
Although there will be an impact, remember for European nations, other opportunities arise because the UK are unable to be competitive in many markets.  I keep hearing the arguments that the likes of BMW won't allow their country to default to WTO rules with UK blah blah blah, but thats what will happen.  The the EU were overly worried about that, we would have had a stronger hand, but it was obvious before the negotiations started that we were simply insignificant.

Who do you think negotiated the deal if it wasn't May and her right hand man Olly Robbins? I think what you meant to say is the Eu dictated the terms and at no point did she say "no that is unacceptable we will just take our chances on both sides of the channel with no deal". If you go to a negotiating table and just keep taking the scraps then you end up with a bad deal. At no stage did we take the offensive. I do agree that the politicians have let us all down. I wonder where a business owner with a genuine claim for losses would stand in a court of law claiming against T.May on 29th March?
You miss the point. They could have sent Paul McKenna and not got a significantly different deal.  Sorry to say, but our sorry little country hasn't got much to negotiate with.

 34 
 on: Yesterday at 22:17:30 
Started by terry paget - Last post by Doctor Gollum
It was, possibly the 4x4 estate...

Anyway, the example I suggested is at Picador Vauxhall Lyndhurst. It's on their website and having walked past it at the weekend it had 14,995 splattered across the side of it as a '68 pre registered offer...

https://www.picadorplc.co.uk/vauxhall/offers/pre-reg/insignia/insignia-offer

If you don't need a big car, you can get a brand new Viva for 7,995 :y

 35 
 on: Yesterday at 22:10:27 
Started by b4ndit - Last post by Andy B
Not sure why there seems to be so much fuss about stuff coming from Germany...   ...the main warehouses have always been Germany, so its nothing new.

Ever since I've had my Omegas I've occasionally had to wait the extra day, because the only stock was in Germany.

Likewise some Merc bits  :y

 36 
 on: Yesterday at 22:09:11 
Started by Zirfeld - Last post by TheBoy
Rest assured, most will be unemployed following the inevitable, not very long to wait, general election.

The only thing that will delay their misery is the sky not caving in on March 30th following a NO Deal Brexit.
If there is another election whilst Corbyn heads up Labour, its fair to say we are truly, royally shafted without vaseline.  As always when the Tories have an internal spat over Europe, Labour always win.

 37 
 on: Yesterday at 22:06:14 
Started by b4ndit - Last post by TheBoy
Not sure why there seems to be so much fuss about stuff coming from Germany...   ...the main warehouses have always been Germany, so its nothing new.

Ever since I've had my Omegas I've occasionally had to wait the extra day, because the only stock was in Germany.

not a problem with it coming from Germany it was the actual cost of the part through the local Vauxhall dealer :y
Sorry, yes, I was picking up on somebody else's shock that Opel parts might not be held in the UK.

The price you were quoted was daft. They used to be about 12.

 38 
 on: Yesterday at 22:04:51 
Started by Zirfeld - Last post by Varche
having not read all the comments posted. but having heard Nigel Farage saying that he would have sent negotiators to companies hoping i guess to put pressure on their respective governments to point out how the uk ,s brexit plans would also cause problems to their trade. i dont think spanish veg & fruit growers will want all their produce rotting in trucks. firms like Varta sell millions of euros in the uk of their products. real negotiators could have maybe done things different to May.
Nobody in the EU cares about Spanish farmers and the like ;)

As I've been saying for nearly 3 years, we were always in a bad place to negotiate, and the EU were never going to give us what was promised by the Leave lot during the referendum.  So, again as I've repeatedly said, the deal negotiated probably was about the best available, no matter who was sent to negotiate it.  Anyone thinking otherwise probably spent too much time reading the (old) Daily Fail.

Now I really don't like or rate our PM, but blaming her for the contents of the deal is a bit daft really.

The whole thing was all very predictable, but now completely ballsed up even further by our elected MPs. That is where 100% of our anger should be pointed.


I will take issue with you on two points highlighted.


First in the grand scheme of things you are right that farmers are insignificant however break it down to a local level e.g. country or province in that country and Spanish farmers not being able to sell their tomatoes to Britain or Danish bacon or French Beaujolais wine or indeed hundreds maybe thousands of other "insignificant" things and it amounts to a local disaster. Sure the EU can do things like find alternative markets (not easy as the prices are supported) or emergency grants. If you are a farmer you cannot live on emergency grants for ever.


Who do you think negotiated the deal if it wasn't May and her right hand man Olly Robbins? I think what you meant to say is the Eu dictated the terms and at no point did she say "no that is unacceptable we will just take our chances on both sides of the channel with no deal". If you go to a negotiating table and just keep taking the scraps then you end up with a bad deal. At no stage did we take the offensive. I do agree that the politicians have let us all down. I wonder where a business owner with a genuine claim for losses would stand in a court of law claiming against T.May on 29th March?

 39 
 on: Yesterday at 22:01:52 
Started by b4ndit - Last post by b4ndit
Not sure why there seems to be so much fuss about stuff coming from Germany...   ...the main warehouses have always been Germany, so its nothing new.

Ever since I've had my Omegas I've occasionally had to wait the extra day, because the only stock was in Germany.

not a problem with it coming from Germany it was the actual cost of the part through the local Vauxhall dealer :y

 40 
 on: Yesterday at 21:54:20 
Started by Zirfeld - Last post by Doctor Gollum
Rest assured, most will be unemployed following the inevitable, not very long to wait, general election.

The only thing that will delay their misery is the sky not caving in on March 30th following a NO Deal Brexit.

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