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cem_devecioglu

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Tramlining ..
« on: 29 January 2013, 11:25:16 »

What is tramlining ?
Tramlining is the tendency of a vehicle's wheels to follow the contours in the surface upon which it runs. The term comes from the tendency of a car's wheels to follow the normally recessed rails of street trams, without driver input in the same way that the train does. The same effect is sometimes called Nibbling.
 
Whats the physical force causing tramlining  ?
Friction.  If there is no friction there will be no grip so no tramlining. This force will be transmitted to you by the steering through the front drivetrain..
What causes tramlining and  what are the parameters for tramlining ?
Vehicles with large and wide low profile tires are more prone to the effects as well as vehicles which have wheels fitted that are larger than the manufacturers recommendation or have reinforced sidewalls. (From Wikipedia)
Parameters: (Extracted and deducted from tyre sites and discussion sites)
Tyre Size      : Tyre width –Main primary factor determining grip level- (wide worst),  Tyrewall height(low worst), Tyre diameter (determines contact patch area: bigger  worst)..
Tyre Design :  Groove design (unidrectional thread), Wall Stiffness (Run on flats worst) & Speed rating (high   worse), Rubber compound(soft worst)
Tyre Pressure it effects both tyre wall stiffness and tyre contact patch ..
Tyre Wear (Older worst)
Suspension geometry :
Camber: Camber is the inward or outward tilt of the tires when viewing them from the front.Positive camber is when the top of the tire tips outward. Negative camber is when the top of the tire tilts inward (extreme positive or negative camber makes tramlining worse)
Caster : Car's front wheels steer on pivots attached to the suspension. Caster is the angle from vertical of an imaginary line drawn through the spindle's pivots, measured in degrees. The caster is positive if the top pivot point is behind the lower pivot point, meaning the caster angle slopes backward like on a bicycle (as viewed from the side).  Increasing positive caster projects the point where the steering axis meets the ground further in front of the tire's contact patch. This distance is called caster trail. When the tire's contact patch is behind this point, the tires want to stay centered behind it, much like a shopping cart's casters naturally lining up in the direction of travel with the wheel's contact patch behind the caster's pivot point. Like the shopping cart caster, the lever arm created between this point and the tire's contact patch creates torque, which causes the steering to self-align in a forward direction. The driver perceives this self-aligning reaction as greater stability and on-center steering feel.Lots of positive caster causes the outside wheel to gain beneficial negative camber in a turn. Think of a parked chopper with the wheel flopped to the side. That's an extreme example of negative camber gain with positive caster.
Toe : Toe is the direction a car's tires are pointed relative to each other when viewed from above. Toe-in means the front of the tires are closer to each other than the rears. Toe-out is the opposite. Fine-tuning toe settings allow a measure of control that's often overlooked. It also has a significant affect on how a car behaves in a corner.Increased toe out will encourage tramlining. Some firms use toe angle to decrease tramlining

Wheel offsets

Steering free play
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tramlining ..
« Reply #1 on: 29 January 2013, 11:25:46 »

And some additional notes on tramlining

“Noticeable increases in tramlining are frequently uncovered when drivers living in the snowbelt make the seasonal changeover from winter tires to summer tires, or when any driver upgrades the performance of their tires using either the same size or going to a "Plus Size" tire and wheel package. The reason that it becomes more pronounced then is because neither the typically narrower and softer handling winter tires nor the Original Equipment tires generate as much grip or responsiveness as the higher performance summer tires. Since the vehicle's suspension works as a complete package, a higher performance tire will also uncover any previously unnoticed looseness in the rest of the suspension.
Tires have the most direct influence on tramlining because they are the part of the vehicle that comes into contact with the road (and the longitudinal ruts and/or grooves that exist there). Unfortunately anything that increases a high performance tire's responsiveness also increases its willingness to tramline.
High performance tires with short sidewalls that develop lots of cornering power at lower slip angles will be more susceptible to tramlining than standard All-Season passenger tires that develop less cornering force until their slip angle increases. A wider treaded tire will encounter more longitudinal ruts and/or grooves in the road than a narrow treaded tire. A tire with large tread blocks that transmits the driver's input to the road with great precision will also transmit the road's imperfections back to the vehicle's suspension. And because tires become more responsive as their tread depth wears away (which is why tires are shaved for competition and track use), a tire will become more likely to tramline as it wears.
Wheels can influence tramlining as well. Installing wider tires or a "Plus Size" tire and wheel package usually requires using wheels with a different offset then the vehicle's original wheels. In some cases, the new wheel will have slightly less offset than the original and in other cases, slightly more. It all depends on the vehicle's suspension design and available wheelwell clearances. You will even find that Original Equipment manufacturers often use different wheel offsets for their different diameter tire and wheel packages.
Usually the amount of offset change is kept to a minimum and vehicle tracking remains relatively unchanged. However if the offset is significantly different, it will alter the way the road forces are transmitted through the tire and wheel to the suspension. Therefore, large changes in wheel offset will increase the likelihood of tramlining.
Suspension bushings, ball joints and shock absorber mounts have a direct influence on tramlining as well. As miles are driven and the years go by, the suspension's wear parts will deteriorate as they age. This often happens so slowly that it isn't very noticeable. Over time the ever-increasing suspension wear permits play that eventually allows the tire to be directed by the irregularities of the road rather than be controlled by the suspension.
Imagine a worn suspension that allows a front wheel and tire to swing between the recommended 1/16-inch of toe-in and 1/16-inch of toe-out when it encounters a rut in the road. This 1/8-inch difference in the direction that the tire is pointed will result in the vehicle tramlining. Replace the worn part to remove the play and you will significantly reduce or remove the tramlining. Many drivers with higher mileage cars have reported that replacing worn suspension components has eliminated tramlining and made the car drive like it is new again.
Using higher tire pressures than recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for your driving conditions will unnecessarily stiffen the tire and make it even more willing to cause tramlining. If you are running higher tire pressures than necessary, simply dropping the tire pressures to those recommended by the vehicle manufacturer will help reduce tramlining.
Alignment settings can be key as well. The "camber" and "toe" settings both play a role in vehicle stability and the propensity for tramlining. Extreme positive or negative camber settings will make a vehicle more sensitive, especially when only one wheel encounters a longitudinal rut and/or groove at a time. Even if all the tires are "aimed" straight ahead when the vehicle is in motion, a tire that is "cambered" wants to turn. This is the result of the "camber thrust" generated by a leaning tire (it is also part of the explanation of how motorcycles turn). A vehicle suspension using lots of negative camber for competition or the track will experience more tramlining on the street.
Additionally, the drivers who use additional toe-out settings to encourage their vehicle to turn into corners better also encourage tramlining because the extra toe-out will reduce vehicle stability in a straight line.
In the case of the competition driver who uses non-factory alignment settings, the amount of tramlining that is acceptable has to be left up to the driver. For only street-driven cars, getting them aligned with negative camber and toe settings within the factory's specifications is an important first step.”
« Last Edit: 29 January 2013, 11:34:01 by cem »
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: Tramlining ..
« Reply #2 on: 29 January 2013, 11:28:48 »

Dedicated to Mr Gixer :y
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Re: Tramlining ..
« Reply #3 on: 29 January 2013, 17:09:53 »

Hope all that lot was a "cut 'n paste" job cem, or have you worn your fingers out typing?  :o ;)
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Re: Tramlining ..
« Reply #4 on: 29 January 2013, 17:12:57 »

Hope all that lot was a "cut 'n paste" job cem, or have you worn your fingers out typing?  :o ;)

I'm afraid not totally cut and paste ;D   :y
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Re: Tramlining ..
« Reply #5 on: 29 January 2013, 18:19:36 »

Quote
Vehicles with large and wide low profile tires are more prone to the effects

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