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Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« on: 03 February 2013, 18:38:03 »

Hello.
Greetings from Estonia :)

I bought the car few years back with failed engine, then threw a c20let in it. Later fitted holset hx35 and some time after that, melted a piston :'(, but managed to get 244km/h on a standing mile competition.
After that, decided to turbocharge a v6.








The gearboxes dont seem to like that torgue that c20let and x30xet produce:


OMC 2012


Now working on fitting bmw six speed transmisson.
Some videos:
c20let: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hMTY1q_yII
x30xet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42bn_CvTHgc


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« Reply #1 on: 03 February 2013, 18:42:25 »

What power did you get out of it
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« Reply #2 on: 03 February 2013, 19:17:40 »

Stuning :D good job  :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #3 on: 03 February 2013, 21:41:06 »

Nice car mate  :y
Have you done any mods to the engine?
What gearbox are you running, R28?
Is it working well, except for the gearbox issues?

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #4 on: 04 February 2013, 00:04:14 »

Excellent........... :y :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2013, 17:20:57 »

The engine is 100% stock.
It came from 2000 or stmth mv6.

Im running about 0,45bar boost at the moment, but unfortunetly havent dynoed it yet.

In winter I am working on getting rid of temporary solutions and making the engine look nicer.
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« Reply #6 on: 04 February 2013, 18:25:28 »

The engine is 100% stock.
It came from 2000 or stmth mv6.

Im running about 0,45bar boost at the moment, but unfortunetly havent dynoed it yet.

In winter I am working on getting rid of temporary solutions and making the engine look nicer.

making a rough calculation
 
original 211 hp as stock and when new..
 
assume 5-6 hp loss from the new one.. 205 hp
 
205 * 0.45=92.25 hp
 
assume %12 loss from turbo power
 
92 - 11 = 81 hp
 
205+81 =286 hp roughly ..
 
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« Reply #7 on: 04 February 2013, 18:58:53 »

Nice job , never seen or heard an omega hit the red line  ;)
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« Reply #8 on: 04 February 2013, 20:39:23 »

Lovin this keep it coming mate...Looks like a proper job mate and very well done. :y :y
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« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2013, 23:56:30 »

Amazing!!!  8) 8)

Keep us updated, i'm very interested!!

Did you do all the fabrication yourself...?
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #10 on: 07 February 2013, 20:15:15 »

Thanks :)
I do all the fabrication myself.
Today I managed to get vecra b aluminum rocker covers.

Undortunetly, the opening for oil (need some help here, how to name it ???) is located badly, and the plenum needs cutting to make it fit.
My solution was making new opening for oil.
Some crappy cell pictures:



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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #11 on: 07 February 2013, 20:58:56 »

Hello.
Greetings from Estonia :)

I bought the car few years back with failed engine, then threw a c20let in it. Later fitted holset hx35 and some time after that, melted a piston :'(, but managed to get 244km/h on a standing mile competition.
After that, decided to turbocharge a v6.








The gearboxes dont seem to like that torgue that c20let and x30xet produce:


OMC 2012


Now working on fitting bmw six speed transmisson.
Some videos:
c20let: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hMTY1q_yII
x30xet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42bn_CvTHgc


Taavi

do you have any photo of bmw gearbox mount to omega engine??

btw one of memebers here running omega with saab engine with lot more power then your car atm and dont have any issu wit box :y maybe your was wear out

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« Reply #12 on: 07 February 2013, 21:06:02 »

Any problems with turbo lag ?
By the way,fitting Vectra cam covers isnt a very good idea.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #13 on: 07 February 2013, 21:13:01 »

Any problems with turbo lag ?
By the way,fitting Vectra cam covers isnt a very good idea.
at some reson only OOf members know how to fit rubber gaskers properly on plastic covers
with out damage them

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #14 on: 07 February 2013, 21:18:28 »

Any problems with turbo lag ?
By the way,fitting Vectra cam covers isnt a very good idea.

Why not?
Plasic is for toys, engines are made from metal.
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« Reply #15 on: 07 February 2013, 21:25:01 »

If you get excessive crank case pressure (very common on V6) you will blow the crank seal rather than the camcover seals. ;)
Vectra has different breather system so can use the (ugly) metal covers.
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« Reply #16 on: 07 February 2013, 21:31:07 »

Hmm, I will dig into it :)
I can add extra breater hoses from the covers to overcome this problem.
Need to install the catch can soon...
Thanks for sharing :)

btw, yes, vectra covers are ugly ;D
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #17 on: 07 February 2013, 21:48:10 »



do you have any photo of bmw gearbox mount to omega engine??

btw one of memebers here running omega with saab engine with lot more power then your car atm and dont have any issu wit box :y maybe your was wear out
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I am still waiting for the flywheel to be matched with the bmw disk and audi aan pressure plate, then I will begin to modify the gearbox.
Most of the gearboxes were broken when the engine was c20let. The turbocharger was the same but boost was 1,3bar compared to the v6 0,4.bar .It made much more power then. The v6 has only broken 1 gearbox.
Also, I have a Sachs Race engineering 4-paddle ceramic cluch, which helps to destroy the boxes, beacause it is quite an on-off type and stresses the drivetrain when shifting hard.
I think last summer took 6-7 gearboxes :( Lost track on counting...
I have been looking for a saab b308 for a while, but none avalible, cheap :)

The v6 is work in progress, I installed the turbo in less than month and using primerly the parts that I had lying in the garage. Need to get the CR down and larger injectors, then there is some hope for power. :)
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #18 on: 07 February 2013, 22:03:12 »

btw one of memebers here running omega with saab engine with lot more power then your car atm and dont have any issu wit box :y maybe your was wear out

How does this person drive?
An omega gearbox does not withstand a lot of power if it is being used hard.


What type of gearboxes do you use Taavi?
R25, R28 or R30? (R25 is from 2.0l-2.5l, R28 3.0l and R30 3.2l)
250, 280 and 300nm

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #19 on: 07 February 2013, 22:20:50 »

I use R25 because their easyer to find.
I also have destroyed one r28.
Always the 3rd gear brakes down, and I have visually compared r25 to r28 and the 3rd gear gears ar the same. Some other are bit beefier in r28 but dont rememer which.
R30 is no-no here, impossible to find.

In the past, there was an omega A with 4.0 irmscher engine, which destroyed lots and lots boxes even with the standard 200kw so yes, omega manual boxes s*ck.
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« Reply #20 on: 07 February 2013, 22:50:35 »

I use R25 because their easyer to find.
I also have destroyed one r28.
Always the 3rd gear brakes down, and I have visually compared r25 to r28 and the 3rd gear gears ar the same. Some other are bit beefier in r28 but dont rememer which.
R30 is no-no here, impossible to find.

In the past, there was an omega A with 4.0 irmscher engine, which destroyed lots and lots boxes even with the standard 200kw so yes, omega manual boxes s*ck.

try old autoboxes and see how long they can survive ;D
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« Reply #21 on: 09 February 2013, 16:42:56 »

checking the net getrag 240 can handle around 300 hp and 300 ft lbs of torque .. but that info not official.. besides some other drivers also destroyed 3rd gear.. :-\
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« Reply #22 on: 09 February 2013, 20:03:16 »

and from forums,  if I understand correctly getrag 240 is swappable with getrag 260 and zf320 without problems.. although ratios are a bit different.. but 260 and zf is stronger..
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #23 on: 09 February 2013, 22:09:38 »

I was recommended getrag 265 or maybe a ZF box by a tuning company here, when I said I was after 350whp
But you have to rebuild the clutch housing to fit and a new propshaft

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« Reply #24 on: 09 February 2013, 22:26:10 »

I was recommended getrag 265 or maybe a ZF box by a tuning company here, when I said I was after 350whp
But you have to rebuild the clutch housing to fit and a new propshaft

bimmers swapping getrag 240 to zf320 says its a direct swap.. probably on the omega shaft may require some work..  dont know about clutch housing :-\
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« Reply #25 on: 10 February 2013, 00:09:44 »

no, gearbox swap is not easy.

BMW getrag 240 uses a separate bellhousing and so can be changed for a 265 easily ( also with separate bellhousing ) There is no separate bellhousing for the Opel 54 degree V6.

I have an Omega 3.0 track car with a standard R25 - and an Omega A 4-litre track car. No gearbox problems in over 10,000 track miles. The Getrag 240s are built of rock.
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« Reply #26 on: 10 February 2013, 10:40:43 »

no, gearbox swap is not easy.

BMW getrag 240 uses a separate bellhousing and so can be changed for a 265 easily ( also with separate bellhousing ) There is no separate bellhousing for the Opel 54 degree V6.

I have an Omega 3.0 track car with a standard R25 - and an Omega A 4-litre track car. No gearbox problems in over 10,000 track miles. The Getrag 240s are built of rock.

very good news :)  no extra costs then :y
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« Reply #27 on: 10 February 2013, 14:39:34 »

The new box will be GS6-37DZ
Its rated to 370Nm, but lets see how it holds up. The GS6-56 would have been perefect since it has 560Nm rating but its not cheap.
I have also considered getrag 265 but it aint so easy to find here.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #28 on: 11 February 2013, 20:56:34 »

Modified flywheel, bmw clutch disk, audi S6 pressure plate:



Bmw bellhousing being cut off, waiting for machining, some custom fixtures and welding.
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« Reply #29 on: 11 February 2013, 21:17:01 »

serious work.. looks like this time you wont leave it for luck :y :y
 
please keep us informed :y
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« Reply #30 on: 11 February 2013, 22:14:45 »

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #31 on: 11 February 2013, 22:44:19 »

If you get excessive crank case pressure (very common on V6) you will blow the crank seal rather than the camcover seals. ;)
Vectra has different breather system so can use the (ugly) metal covers.

Not if your breathers are clear and the cam covers are only 8Nm tight. I've used the metal covers on my engine(s) for years without any issue whatsoever, although I do stress to people that it is primarily an aesthetic choice and that the notion that you can cure cam cover gasket problems by using metal covers is a nonsense. In that instance if you DO leave the breathers etc without attention then you're asking for trouble, but otherwise there is no problem with using the metal covers per se. On an Omega the oil filler is virtually unreachable with the metal cam covers anyway so it's a daft choice on these cars irrespective of breather design haha!
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #32 on: 12 February 2013, 22:55:11 »






Got the complicated part of the job done.
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« Reply #33 on: 12 February 2013, 23:11:32 »

congrats :y
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« Reply #34 on: 13 February 2013, 19:59:53 »

Wow!! Loving your work  8) :y
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« Reply #35 on: 15 February 2013, 21:42:28 »

Hahaaa quite familiar car :D ;D
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« Reply #36 on: 20 February 2013, 10:08:39 »

The gearbox converison is now finished. The clutch operates and new prop shaft is ready. Took it for a small spin and everything works great.

Meanwhile painted the ugly vectra rocker covers to make them look better:





IRL they look better.
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« Reply #37 on: 20 February 2013, 20:59:31 »


 do you have any movies from track day ??

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« Reply #38 on: 20 February 2013, 23:11:46 »

Havnt paticipated in any track days, only the one mile race from which havent got any video footage.

Rocer covers fitted:




Need to sort out under bonnet wireing and redo that temorary exhaust, some day ;D
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« Reply #39 on: 25 March 2013, 20:52:15 »

The car has been back on the road for some time.
Whats new:
windshield
front recaro seats, door cards waiting to be fitted.
new high capacity fuel pump ordered
3.45:1 diff fitted for testing
new radiator
managed to soure a pair of oem xenons but I need the glass for left one - waiting offers :)
fuel pressure raised because injectors are near their limit :(


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« Reply #40 on: 26 March 2013, 09:46:51 »

New pump arrived suprisingly under 24h

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« Reply #41 on: 30 March 2013, 17:27:41 »

pressure regulator - just go to nearest "shrot" and look for audis/vw/bmw. they usually have 4.0bar fuel pressure regulator. but - be prepared for weakest fuel line soon to give up :)
at least - that is my experience on my V6 Calibra.
p.s. have you considered dragracing too? :)
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« Reply #42 on: 30 March 2013, 20:08:48 »

 ;)
Mine came from a wrecked audi too. There is a dragrace event where I am planning to go on 20th of april. Then I can talk about quarter mile times :D

Tidyed the engine bay today:
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« Reply #43 on: 19 April 2013, 01:07:51 »

F***

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« Reply #44 on: 19 April 2013, 12:00:18 »

Whoops  :-[
Excellent motor though. Would love all of that done to mine. Keep up the good work  :y
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« Reply #45 on: 03 July 2013, 01:16:09 »

What happened to the pictures. Was gonna show them to a mate but they gone  :'(
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« Reply #46 on: 03 July 2013, 21:31:04 »

What happened to the pictures. Was gonna show them to a mate but they gone  :'(

Photobucket have applied "improvements" to their site - cocked up a lot of their users image locations - hence images not now showing ;)
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« Reply #47 on: 05 July 2013, 11:11:15 »

What happened to the pictures. Was gonna show them to a mate but they gone  :'(

Photobucket have applied "improvements" to their site - cocked up a lot of their users image locations - hence images not now showing ;)

Thats debatable  ::) ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 08 July 2013, 23:06:30 »

Hi,
Engine bay looks like this now:


I am running about 0.8bar boost at the moment and borrowed friends gTech yesterday.
0-100km/h


Had very little traction with 1. and 2. gear.

50-100km/h took less time than 0-50 ;D


Quarter mile speed shows that there is some power.

100-190km/h

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« Reply #49 on: 21 July 2013, 23:13:18 »

mmmm turbo
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« Reply #50 on: 04 August 2013, 00:17:59 »

Dyno day!!!


415,1Hp 541Nm @ wheels
477Hp 622Nm @ engine


Engine 100% stock :)
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« Reply #51 on: 07 August 2013, 21:41:08 »

i wonder how long its gonna last running that power :'( :'( :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #52 on: 08 August 2013, 22:51:03 »

Brilliant!!  :D :D
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #53 on: 14 August 2013, 21:40:01 »

hmm...
Nice project...

I have some questions about your OMEGA.

1) you didn't say anything about turbo. Which brand? Model?

2) What about ECU?

3) Now running on custom Headers or stock manifold?

4) Exhaust system? 

Thanks

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #54 on: 29 August 2013, 15:33:11 »

hmm...
Nice project...

I have some questions about your OMEGA.

1) you didn't say anything about turbo. Which brand? Model?

2) What about ECU?

3) Now running on custom Headers or stock manifold?

4) Exhaust system? 

Thanks

1) Holset HX35
2)Megasquirt 2 V3
3) All custom
4) 3" Downpipe and modified v6 center and last section or if needed 3" all the way (noisy as hell)

On 24th took part of one mile top speed competition.
First run 255km/h Second 256km/h
Boost was 0,5- 0,6 bar.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #55 on: 12 September 2013, 15:02:51 »

Definitely interesting man, i wonder how it would be to drift my hearse with double the power i have now.

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #56 on: 16 September 2013, 17:29:24 »

hmm...
Nice project...

I have some questions about your OMEGA.

1) you didn't say anything about turbo. Which brand? Model?

2) What about ECU?

3) Now running on custom Headers or stock manifold?

4) Exhaust system? 

Thanks

1) Holset HX35
2)Megasquirt 2 V3
3) All custom
4) 3" Downpipe and modified v6 center and last section or if needed 3" all the way (noisy as hell)

On 24th took part of one mile top speed competition.
First run 255km/h Second 256km/h
Boost was 0,5- 0,6 bar.

How do you get on with the supposed over heating issues?  I'll be fitting 2 further electric water pumps to help flow the water round the system  :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #57 on: 16 September 2013, 17:49:38 »

So far the overheating issues seem BS. Havent had any problems with coolant temp. Maybe it becomes an issue on a track days but not when daily driving or at top speed and drag races.

For max cooling capabilities I bought brand new radiator and expansion tank too. Also I got rid of the factory oil cooler and fitted an oil to  air type unit. I dont have the three way valve in the heater circuit neither, because no air-con.

Or I am just been lucky so far ;D
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #58 on: 16 September 2013, 18:03:30 »

Ah ok, very interesting! How did you go about ridding the car of the oil cooler?  I've tried to fit an air oil cooler myself but the sandwich plate that would fit between the oil filter and block won't fit because there's a sensor right near it!
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #59 on: 05 November 2013, 22:14:47 »

What an awesome read, keep up the excellent work, I hope to read some more updates on this soon. 

Very interesting gearbox change too, some serious engineering work there!!!
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« Reply #60 on: 08 November 2013, 20:47:27 »

Ah ok, very interesting! How did you go about ridding the car of the oil cooler?  I've tried to fit an air oil cooler myself but the sandwich plate that would fit between the oil filter and block won't fit because there's a sensor right near it!

I took the oil feed and return from stock oilcooler channels.

Managed to get 12,7@ 183,5 km/h at this years last 1/4 mile competition.
Also found that it weights around 1600kg so its far too heavy.

Decided to get a lighter car so omega is going for parts. PM if need something.

End of story.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #61 on: 04 December 2013, 09:59:05 »

Turned out that the e30 I got needs too much work to get it in the condition I want so decided to swap the enigine I got for in into omega.


Luckily the manifiold I made for e30 seems to fit omega also so not too much fabrication needed. :)
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« Reply #62 on: 04 December 2013, 13:44:59 »

 :o

Thats going to make it sit up  :)
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« Reply #63 on: 05 December 2013, 16:35:24 »

Good swap :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #64 on: 13 December 2013, 22:24:14 »

why you didn't answer on PM?  ???

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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #65 on: 15 December 2013, 19:45:21 »

Mailiau  looking for new swap or parts? :D
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #66 on: 12 June 2014, 22:00:37 »

Its alive, again ;D
Feels faster than ever. More info and pics soon.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #67 on: 18 June 2014, 20:34:38 »

Hi again

Taavi,

-on which RPM motor goes for " Full Boost " ? because HX35 is kind of big turbo for 3.0L engine.

- How can you fight with that much traction when you lunch it? installed LSD?

and at the end... please give us the specs of tires and Rims you use in city. ???
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #68 on: 20 June 2014, 00:45:04 »

Great pic :y
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #69 on: 06 July 2014, 11:51:07 »

Hi.
Great job in opel motors.
Try to use biger injectors (like c20let) & EGT senzor and wide  band  o2 senzor in the exhaust system. Try to save the engine to overheating.
Engine managment is chipped or fully stock ?

Sorry.im not to good to english

 
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #70 on: 07 October 2014, 09:58:51 »

Hi again,

The turbo failed in the end of July and since then it been sitting idle, until I bought new one in the begining of October.


Bough some slicks for seasons last 1/4 mile competition:

(wrong rims)

New turbo is holset hx55 running 1,4-1,5 bar boost, and maxing out my 800cc injectors :D


Best time 11,96 best speed yet to be determined when the results are in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i01CQ1J71i8

Hope to get to dyno this week.
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #71 on: 07 October 2014, 12:43:27 »

This is what im talking about  :D :D :D :D ;D Excellent run there , tyres made a big difference  :y
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« Reply #72 on: 08 October 2014, 18:02:42 »

Very interesting car well impressive mate :)
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Re: Omega 2.0 to 3.0 Turbo
« Reply #73 on: 30 December 2014, 18:56:29 »

cool car , any vids . would to hear the sounds that beast makes  :y
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