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3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« on: 04 February 2013, 18:16:16 »

Happened a couple of times over the last few days, car starts fine as usual,then leave it parked up for a few minutes and then nothing,the car just turns over and it feels like that theres either no spark or no fuel. Then it's back to normal as if nothing ever was wrong and car runs fine.....until the next time  >:( As usual all opinions and advice will be  much apreciated :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #1 on: 04 February 2013, 18:17:35 »

Do the pedal trick for codes and post up the results... Expect to see a 0335 ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #2 on: 04 February 2013, 18:18:00 »

Do the pedal trick first but sounds like crank sensor
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #3 on: 04 February 2013, 18:18:29 »

Must type faster  ;D
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #4 on: 04 February 2013, 18:30:46 »

Thanks for the advice,I'll do it first thing as I've had a bit of a crap afternoon fettling the 2.0ltr for it's MOT tomorrow and then breaking down in the 3.2 while getting a couple of bits for it at Halfrauds ::)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2013, 18:36:28 »

Every V6 owner should carry a spare crank sensor in the boot ;D
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #6 on: 04 February 2013, 18:41:13 »

Point taken TB,are there any variants as with the 2.5 ltr or can I safely order one using the cars reg no :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #7 on: 04 February 2013, 18:42:37 »

Every V6 owner should carry a spare crank sensor in the boot ;D

I always did until I loaned it to a newbie in distress and he nicked it. :(
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #8 on: 04 February 2013, 18:43:39 »

Every V6 owner should carry a spare crank sensor in the boot ;D

I always did until I loaned it to a newbie in distress and he nicked it. :(

I hope you named and shamed them
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #9 on: 04 February 2013, 18:45:55 »

Followed correct procedure Pete.Informed admins,who sent an email which wasnt replied to afaik.Listed as trading dispute in the for sale section iirc. ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #10 on: 04 February 2013, 18:50:43 »

Don't suppose you've still got the address ::)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #11 on: 04 February 2013, 18:51:29 »

Point taken TB,are there any variants as with the 2.5 ltr or can I safely order one using the cars reg no :y
3.0l takes the cheaper one. EPC is often wrong on V6 crank sensors.
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #12 on: 04 February 2013, 18:58:27 »

Every V6 owner should carry a spare crank sensor in the boot ;D

I always did until I loaned it to a newbie in distress and he nicked it. :(

Shall Me & you go  pay him a visit Albs  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #13 on: 04 February 2013, 19:02:57 »

O.K if it turns out to be the crankshaft sensor then I guess it's quicker to take it off BUT my local VX stealer wont have one as they always say 'dont get asked much for Omega parts now, so it's got to go on order' So if anyone can recommend a supplier then would apreciate a heads up :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #14 on: 04 February 2013, 19:16:23 »

Buy brand new, genuine, from dealer, if it is a faulty crank sensor
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« Reply #15 on: 04 February 2013, 19:22:32 »

O.K if it turns out to be the crankshaft sensor then I guess it's quicker to take it off BUT my local VX stealer wont have one as they always say 'dont get asked much for Omega parts now, so it's got to go on order' So if anyone can recommend a supplier then would apreciate a heads up :y

AndyC   at Bury St. Edmunds , Ken . great price , Very  Fast service although it is by post .  Top bloke . totally recommended by me for whats thats worth   ;D ;D
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #16 on: 04 February 2013, 19:23:18 »

Agreed ,sods law I needed the car for the Red Baron's meet this weekend,doubt I'll get one in time,will have to take the 3.0 instead :'(
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #17 on: 04 February 2013, 19:24:46 »

Cheers Al,will send him a pidgeon :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #18 on: 04 February 2013, 19:27:47 »

Ring him at 9am ,   bet he'll have it in the post by lunchtime . Never had to wait more that a day or two for the stuff he's sent me.

You'll have it by Thursday at the latest .  Could always ask him to "special" it  Guaranteed next day delivery   . . . but about a tenner

extra I would think  :-\ :-\
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #19 on: 04 February 2013, 19:44:08 »

Yupp! Percy Pidgeon's on his way,but will do as you suggest in the morning :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #20 on: 04 February 2013, 20:18:39 »

Probably won't be in stock but should easily be available next day ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #21 on: 04 February 2013, 20:34:01 »

It should'nt be a problem,just a shame I wont be taking the car up to Derby on Saturday :'(
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #22 on: 04 February 2013, 20:48:12 »

It should'nt be a problem,just a shame I wont be taking the car up to Derby on Saturday :'(

You should be able to, if you can get it ordered tomorrow, as it's only 15 mins or so to change over :y

Of course, that is assuming it is the Crank Sensor ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #23 on: 04 February 2013, 20:58:34 »

Looking at the maintenance section I don't think that I'll be doing it,It looks fiddly and I've got anger management problems when it comes to cars and computers,local garage can have the grief ;) ::)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #24 on: 04 February 2013, 21:04:28 »

Not fiddly at all.10 minute job. ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #25 on: 04 February 2013, 21:05:40 »

Looking at the maintenance section I don't think that I'll be doing it,It looks fiddly and I've got anger management problems when it comes to cars and computers,local garage can have the grief ;) ::)

Crank sensor on a V6 can, and has many times, be done at the side of the road ;)

Might be worth dropping Chris a PM if you really don't feel up to doing it ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #26 on: 04 February 2013, 21:16:51 »

You have'nt witnessed me working on a car,it's a combo of Alzeimers/Tourettes and a bull in a china shop,it's not a pretty sight ;D :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #27 on: 04 February 2013, 21:18:06 »

You have'nt witnessed me working on a car,it's a combo of Alzeimers/Tourettes and a bull in a china shop,it's not a pretty sight ;D :y

I might not have witnessed it but I am picturing it now :-X ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #28 on: 04 February 2013, 21:22:10 »

Crank sensor on a V6 can, and has many times, be done at the side of the road ;)
Or in a cold, dark NEC carpark after Mrs TB has managed to run over my towpole, meaning I had to fix the car ;D
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #29 on: 05 February 2013, 00:36:04 »

That Reading dealer is a waist of space, tyre Bracknell perhaps? Although they will probably need to order it anyway at a guess.

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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #30 on: 05 February 2013, 09:16:54 »

Cheers Chris,put the code reader on it this morning and no codes,I guess perhaps because this problem has only just started to develope and got to guess it'll get progressively worse. I'm thinking that through every ones advice given so far that they are correct and that this is the cause of the problem,the car has done 80.000 miles now and even if it turns out by a slim chance that it's not the crank sensor then it's at least the part must be due to be replaced so for the moment that's going to be the way to go :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #31 on: 05 February 2013, 09:23:18 »

Wouldn't hurt to get it now as a spare but if there's no code then I wonder if it might be something else :-\
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #32 on: 05 February 2013, 09:29:57 »

If your code reader cannot read "stored codes" and only reads "active codes" it is quite possible that the cranksensor code won't show all the time ... it would only show while the engine won't start ... if the engine starts then there is no fault so the code won't show ..  if that makes any sort of sense... :)

At least thats how I understand it .. :)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #33 on: 05 February 2013, 09:47:04 »

Thanks for the info,I think I'm going to have to go down the process of elimination route..probably not the cheapest and for some not the most logical but it's a starting point I guess :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #34 on: 05 February 2013, 10:16:14 »

I had no codes (pending or active) when my crank sensor died - same as you it would fail to fire now and then until eventually it died completely.

Ditto to Chris' offer - feel free to pop round if you'd rather not get bent over by a garage for a 10 minute job ;)
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #35 on: 05 February 2013, 10:22:54 »

I had no codes (pending or active) when my crank sensor died - same as you it would fail to fire now and then until eventually it died completely.

Ditto to Chris' offer - feel free to pop round if you'd rather not get bent over by a garage for a 10 minute job ;)

Yep, exactly the same here too. Starting a little slow for a couple of days and then immobilised - thankfully at home. No codes.
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #36 on: 05 February 2013, 10:50:11 »

Thanks to every one for your solid advice and offers of help,just waiting for an answer from AndyC for availability/price,local VX has'nt got one but can get one in a couple of days,so it's going to be a short wait for the part :y
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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #37 on: 05 February 2013, 11:04:44 »

I know its a fair trog .. but I have a spare here (well in the boot  :) ) should you need it faster ?? You can then replace it when yours turns up ?

Swindon area

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Re: 3.2 Intermittent starting fault.
« Reply #38 on: 05 February 2013, 11:24:41 »

Many thanks for the offer Entwood,there's no great hurry as I've already decided to take another car up to The Red Baron's meet at the weekend,then I'll get it sorted out sometime next week :y :y
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