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This car tax malarkey?
« on: 03 October 2014, 09:41:41 »

So, what with all I've been reading nothing has made complete sense, so the situation is as follows. A couple of cars I've purchased, were purchased on 28th & 30th September respectively. Now do I get to keep the tax on the car or does that get lost? Everything I've been reading has been pretty unclear. One thing I read said you'll get to keep the tax as the rules came in on October 1st, however something else I read said, as soon as DVLA receive the log book the tax will be gone, as they've recieved the log book after October 1st. I, more than likely may be being rather thick, however this is all far too much for my old brain to compute  :-[.
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #1 on: 03 October 2014, 11:58:02 »

You should get to keep the Tax on the Cars, (New Keeper or Trade?) as it was before the deadline, its when you come to sell them the New Keeper needs to renew Tax.
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #2 on: 03 October 2014, 12:13:20 »

You should get to keep the Tax on the Cars, (New Keeper or Trade?) as it was before the deadline, its when you come to sell them the New Keeper needs to renew Tax.

Yep,bought before 30th Sept you keep tax untill you sell,don't know what happens then as being trade Del won't register is his own name so who will  tax refund go to  ??? ???
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #3 on: 03 October 2014, 12:14:18 »

You should get to keep the Tax on the Cars, (New Keeper or Trade?) as it was before the deadline, its when you come to sell them the New Keeper needs to renew Tax.
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #4 on: 03 October 2014, 12:31:23 »

You should get to keep the Tax on the Cars, (New Keeper or Trade?) as it was before the deadline, its when you come to sell them the New Keeper needs to renew Tax.

Yep,bought before 30th Sept you keep tax untill you sell,don't know what happens then as being trade Del won't register is his own name so who will  tax refund go to  ??? ???
Same a before H (as in surrendering Tax Disc), no one, as the Car is in limbo (Trade), might get back to the original owner if theres a few days within the transactions but guessing DVLA get to keep it.

Not sure what happens now as to the Tax on the Car when its bought via the Yellow Slip?, in theory the Trader cant Sorn it, so does He Tax it?, only to lose it again when selling to a New Keeper?



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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #5 on: 05 October 2014, 22:39:39 »

So if i was to buy a car now off a private seller as in an emergency purchase I.E. car goes bang, how do i go about taxing it at the post office without a hard copy of the car insurance??? as we all know insurance companies send them out in a few days.... I`m only asking as lately i`ve had to buy a cheap mondeo and then the miggy so i could get to n from work.... so i`m a little confused about how this is going to help the public.... :(
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #6 on: 05 October 2014, 23:38:11 »

So if i was to buy a car now off a private seller as in an emergency purchase I.E. car goes bang, how do i go about taxing it at the post office without a hard copy of the car insurance??? as we all know insurance companies send them out in a few days.... I`m only asking as lately i`ve had to buy a cheap mondeo and then the miggy so i could get to n from work.... so i`m a little confused about how this is going to help the public.... :(

So long as the car is mot'd you can tax it online or on helpline,insurance no longer asked for as it can take several days for it to register on the database
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #7 on: 06 October 2014, 09:51:57 »

So if i was to buy a car now off a private seller as in an emergency purchase I.E. car goes bang, how do i go about taxing it at the post office without a hard copy of the car insurance??? as we all know insurance companies send them out in a few days.... I`m only asking as lately i`ve had to buy a cheap mondeo and then the miggy so i could get to n from work.... so i`m a little confused about how this is going to help the public.... :(

So long as the car is mot'd you can tax it online or on helpline,insurance no longer asked for as it can take several days for it to register on the database
Yea, they scrapped the Insurance thing back in December last year, to get things ready for the new system, as Henry says the MID update system was just too slow.

Fairly sure you can Tax at a Post Office now without Insurance proof in place, I taxed one last week on the Automated 0300 Number (having given up trying to do it online) and in effect it checks your MOT Status in seconds, and says something like 'by purchasing the Tax, you are agreeing that you have a valid Insurance in place'.

Seems a backward step to me, allowing people to Tax without proof of insurance, no doubt theres a system in place afterwards if you fall fail of the system.  :-\ 
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #8 on: 06 October 2014, 11:39:06 »

My daughter's road tax expired at the end of Sept & even though she renewed it on line mid Sept she's not received a replacement ...... I doubt now if she'll get one. DVLA had envisaged running out of discs
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #9 on: 06 October 2014, 11:54:33 »

Seems a backward step to me, allowing people to Tax without proof of insurance, no doubt theres a system in place afterwards if you fall fail of the system.  :-\

There is - see Al's post elsewhere about his taxi driving colleague who got fined for having a taxed, MOTd car uninsured on his driveway (without ever being used on the roads in that state)..
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #10 on: 06 October 2014, 13:36:27 »

My daughter's road tax expired at the end of Sept & even though she renewed it on line mid Sept she's not received a replacement ...... I doubt now if she'll get one. DVLA had envisaged running out of discs

She will not get one as she renewed her tax to start at the end of September; 1st of October therefore.

It is now under the new no-disc system. so why would she still want one? ???
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Re: This car tax malarkey?
« Reply #11 on: 06 October 2014, 13:41:40 »

My daughter's road tax expired at the end of Sept & even though she renewed it on line mid Sept she's not received a replacement ...... I doubt now if she'll get one. DVLA had envisaged running out of discs

She will not get one as she renewed her tax to start at the end of September; 1st of October therefore.

It is now under the new no-disc system. so why would she still want one? ???

Of course ....... I was a month out  ::) ::)
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« Reply #12 on: 06 October 2014, 14:18:11 »

so why would she still want one? ???

So she has some proof to wave under the nose of the man as he crushes her car when the computers fail… ;) ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 08 October 2014, 12:59:00 »

Thanks people, do get to keep it. I'm not using one of the cars for trade purposes so that keeps the tax and is going in my name. As for the trade slip, as from now you have to fill out a trade slip, it's apparently down to the registered keeper to inform DVLA that it's gone to a trader, the registered keeper then gets a refund for the amount of full months tax remaining. One big revenue earner if you ask me.
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