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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #30 on: 29 April 2018, 18:38:41 »

+1 for auxiliary belt failure,mine was due to tensioner collapsing altogether.Luckily it was local and no other damage done.Last time[touch wood]I suffered a timing belt failure was mid '70's on a Pinto 1600 in a MkIII Cortina,mind you most cars owned since then have been chain engines so that might account for most of it.
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #31 on: 30 April 2018, 13:00:36 »

On my 2003 Thames Valley Police Omega I note in the records that TVP changed the cam belt at 80k and 160K. In the same period they changed the clutch 4 times.
That's how that works... :D Probably had 16 sets of tyres too ;)
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #32 on: 30 April 2018, 19:19:05 »

On my 2003 Thames Valley Police Omega I note in the records that TVP changed the cam belt at 80k and 160K. In the same period they changed the clutch 4 times.
That's how that works... :D Probably had 16 sets of tyres too ;)
In 1997 the police garage chief told Quentin Wilson, on Top Gear,'we change the brake pads every two weeks, and the tyres once a month. Nothing else on these cars goes wrong'. He was referring to 24v Senators, I imagine the Omegas performed similarly.
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #33 on: 01 May 2018, 19:29:48 »

On my 2003 Thames Valley Police Omega I note in the records that TVP changed the cam belt at 80k and 160K. In the same period they changed the clutch 4 times.
That's how that works... :D Probably had 16 sets of tyres too ;)
In 1997 the police garage chief told Quentin Wilson, on Top Gear,'we change the brake pads every two weeks, and the tyres once a month. Nothing else on these cars goes wrong'. He was referring to 24v Senators, I imagine the Omegas performed similarly.
Obviously the Omegas need cambelts occasionally :)
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #34 on: 04 May 2018, 10:14:54 »

I've decided to fit a Contitech timing belt kit.

I can get the Contitech with water pump included in the kit for the same price as a Contitech kit without water pump + a genuine VX water pump.

Is the Vauxhall water pump the better pump?

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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #35 on: 04 May 2018, 12:26:29 »

My 21 inc postage Quinton Hazell kit turned up, (qbk337)
The 2 pulley backplate casting is cast SKF Germany 337054 EB IV-1
small pulley SKF France 90573616 ,large SKF -Italy bearing with 337025 DC E-24449776
came with 4 new bolts,1 spacer, single tensioner = SKF France 90573616
Toothed belt QTB384 225x30 HSN
oddly, no country of manufacture on the belt  :-\
prolly get a Gates belt  ;D

But I've not removed half the engine to get to the old fitted belt yet  ;D
stuck my carlton on ebay ,so maybe i'll get round to driving the new toy(omega) one day soon  8)
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #36 on: 04 May 2018, 19:15:03 »

I change mine every 40K , i went to 44k once and it went bang, cost me a fair bit that did!  :'(
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #37 on: 12 May 2018, 18:53:12 »

I have never had a cambelt failure, but have suffered 2 auxiliary belt failures, both due to tensioner pulley bearings stiffening up. Not catastrophic failures, but very inconvenient. Following advice from Nick W, I now take the pulleys off occasionally and grease the bearings.

Does the tensioner come apart to repack the grease?
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #38 on: 12 May 2018, 19:18:51 »

Does the tensioner come apart to repack the grease?

you can carefully remove the grease seal of the bearing ,pack with grease and clip the seal back into the bearing  ;)
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #39 on: 12 May 2018, 19:28:42 »

The tensioner doesnt come apart as such but you can carefully flick the rs seals out to clean and regrease the bearing.this is for the aux belt. The cam belt bearings are the same idea but obviously req a lot more work to get to.
The one main issue here i can think of is that which has been mentioned somewhere earlier in this thread. You should be changing belts/ rollers according to mileage and time but time also affects a bearing sat on a shelf in your garage as it would if it were sat on the car itself in your garage. And as was said most of the kits we are purchasing were probably made a few years ago.there should be no harm in regreasing these rollers as you would with an aux belt pulley but its very easy to bend the rs seals and render them useless ,letting in damp air or dust to the bearing which would be catatrophic to the cam belt ones,less so on the aux belt.
These like all other service parts etc will eventually become an issue when these cars become classic cars in the future.its easy enough to buy almost all we need now just as it was easy to buy a set of lucas points for a car 20 years ago !
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #40 on: 12 May 2018, 20:50:12 »

Is this the correct part number 24412292 for an Auxiliary Belt Tensioner for my 2.2 petrol 2003 Z22XE?
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #42 on: 13 May 2018, 09:58:28 »

Is this the correct part number 24412292 for an Auxiliary Belt Tensioner for my 2.2 petrol 2003 Z22XE?
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Here goes

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-OMEGA-ZAFIRA-2-0Di-DTi-2-2TD-DTI-AUXILIARY-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER/320630645199?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item4aa71361cf:g:nvgAAOxyn9BRZVAv

Thats different to the one on  mine. The one I came across yesterday was this one at a very low price of 19.95 new. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112829820115. I sent an email to them asking but have not had a reply yest. Probably here from them on Monday.
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #43 on: 13 May 2018, 10:23:54 »

Is this the correct part number 24412292 for an Auxiliary Belt Tensioner for my 2.2 petrol 2003 Z22XE?
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Here goes

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-OMEGA-ZAFIRA-2-0Di-DTi-2-2TD-DTI-AUXILIARY-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER/320630645199?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item4aa71361cf:g:nvgAAOxyn9BRZVAv

Thats different to the one on  mine. The one I came across yesterday was this one at a very low price of 19.95 new. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112829820115. I sent an email to them asking but have not had a reply yest. Probably here from them on Monday.


Sorry bud, I gave linky for a dersal one.
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Re: Cambelt change intervals
« Reply #44 on: 13 May 2018, 11:47:45 »

Is this the correct part number 24412292 for an Auxiliary Belt Tensioner for my 2.2 petrol 2003 Z22XE?
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Here goes

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-OMEGA-ZAFIRA-2-0Di-DTi-2-2TD-DTI-AUXILIARY-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER/320630645199?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item4aa71361cf:g:nvgAAOxyn9BRZVAv

Thats different to the one on  mine. The one I came across yesterday was this one at a very low price of 19.95 new. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112829820115. I sent an email to them asking but have not had a reply yest. Probably here from them on Monday.


Sorry bud, I gave linky for a dersal one.

No problem. I did a search on the part number in the link I provided and it does seem to match the Z22XE engine so I ordered one for when I replace all the belts, idlers and water pump at the start of next month.
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