Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 8   Go Down

Author Topic: Pensioners....get yer wallets out  (Read 2319 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

STEMO

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Up North
  • Posts: 10119
    • Astra 2.0 diesel
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #30 on: 08 May 2018, 19:12:18 »

When was the last time the two main political parties agreed on anything? And, as the grey vote gets them elected, I think you'll find that's game, set and match for the foreseeable future.
« Last Edit: 08 May 2018, 19:18:42 by STEMO »
Logged
If you are offended by anything I post, sorry. Just thought I'd get that in now.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

  • Over Active Thyroid
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • South Lincolnshire
  • Posts: 21304
  • Isn't she lovely.
    • Signum 2.8 T & Jaguar XFR
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #31 on: 08 May 2018, 19:13:14 »

Many older people are claiming pensions (and a large variety of other benefits) for 20 years or more. In the good old days of scarlet fever, consumption, and cholera  most people would barely make it to a pensionable age, and if they did they would usually drop off the perch soon after.

My point being that most pensioners take far more from the system than they ever paid in. This is not sustainable.
Correct. That's why taxes should be raised to fund pensions  :y

The cull is more cost effective. :)
Logged

aaronjb

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northampton
  • Posts: 833
    • '16 Skoda, '06 BMW 650i
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #32 on: 08 May 2018, 20:51:46 »

I'll vote for a Logan's Run system as long as I get that giant TV set on which I can dial up a real-life young, scantily clad Jenny Agutter..

Although that was at age 30 IIRC, so that's the lot of us screwed. Worse if we chose the book version where they all offed themselves at 21..
Logged
..and it went 'dugga dugga dugga dugga' no more.

jimmy944

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Kidderminster
  • Posts: 2403
    • Swedish soot chucker
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #33 on: 08 May 2018, 21:05:16 »


It’s the same when you see local Cornish/Devon folk bitching about second home owners. They’re only second home owners because locals allowed it to happen. I’ve yet to see a house advertised as £500k, or £250k if you’re a local  ;D

And how were they suppose to stop it happening exactly?  ???

Burn the houses down?  Man the barricades?  ::)

My point is in my post. It was the locals who coined in the extra selling houses to incommers in the first place if they cared that much about keeping the villages local, they’d put their money where their mouth was and sell houses at affordable prices to locals.
Logged

Rods2

  • Omega Lord
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Sandhurst Berkshire
  • Posts: 7032
    • 1999 3.0 Elite Estate
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #34 on: 09 May 2018, 00:56:47 »

There are some stupid things in the report, like if you work passed retirement age we will charge you extra NI, which encourages people to retire adding an extra burden to the cost of retirement compared to carrying on working, maybe deferring your pension and paying income tax and keeping more active and fitter as working people generally have fewer health problems and live longer. :y :y :y

Young entitlement is all wrong as apart from getting a useless degree, useful ones will lead to much higher lifelong earnings and relatively more expensive housing have been caused by government Stalinist planning policies, everything else in much, much cheaper from cars, to clothes, to energy, to consumer electronics, travel, holidays, food etc due to much more efficient production and distribution systems from globalization. Hiring Mk I arms for unskilled labouring to burger flipping has always been badly paid and if you want to get ahead, work hard, learn new skills and create a business where capitalism is open to everybody. In the first year of my first business I worked long 80+ hours a week with a full time job as well as running the business and the same long hours in the first full time year in business but the end of year dividend I used to move from living at home to putting 30% deposit on a big detached house, my highest income tax band was 55% and my mortgage rate 15% not the 2% that it is now. The 1980s under Thatcher were get on your bike and start a business decade and many did exactly that. There are youngsters starting very successful businesses now but they seem to be a much small percentage than in the 1980s. It is much easier to rely on the bank of mum & dad. :( :( :(

The big problem going from small government where the percentage of GDP collected in tax was 33% and it has risen every year since the useless failed bank manager became PM in 1991 and started the splurge and the path to big government that has gone on ever increasingly every year and is now 43% including borrowing. Safe job for life Public service pay has gone from being about 20% less than industry with a good final earnings pension to being about 20% more with a poorer final pension, but now relatively better that you can expect to get in the private sector. The reason these new taxes have been suggested is that everything else has been taxed to death and is now the wrong side of the Laffer curve, so tax take is going down with each rise and it is reducing economic activity with VED rises, BTL taxes and stamp duty being the latest example, so car sales are down by about 20%, especially for luxury cars and about 30% for BTL properties and IMO is the start of the next crash, along with shares and bond prices. :( :( :( The reason the 1980s was a decade of massively rising wealth, especially compared to the 1970's IMF bailout, socialist disaster was the modernization of the state and ruthlessly cutting taxes, so it made it worthwhile to get on your bike, start a business, create wealth and export all over the world to help this country earn its keep. :y :y :y
Logged
US Fracking and Saudi Arabia defending its market share = The good news of an oil glut, lower and lower prices for us and squeaky bum time for Putin!

Sir Tigger QC

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 14523
    • BMW 530d & a Ford
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #35 on: 09 May 2018, 11:34:04 »


It’s the same when you see local Cornish/Devon folk bitching about second home owners. They’re only second home owners because locals allowed it to happen. I’ve yet to see a house advertised as £500k, or £250k if you’re a local  ;D

And how were they suppose to stop it happening exactly?  ???

Burn the houses down?  Man the barricades?  ::)

My point is in my post. It was the locals who coined in the extra selling houses to incommers in the first place if they cared that much about keeping the villages local, they’d put their money where their mouth was and sell houses at affordable prices to locals.

I'm impressed that the Millennial generation would be more principled than their forebears!  :)
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

JC is not The Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!

Shackeng

  • Omega Lord
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Ramsbury
  • Posts: 6914
    • 3.2 Elite 2.0 TitX Mondeo
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #36 on: 09 May 2018, 16:51:18 »

David Willetts' bro lives next door to me. I am going to have a word... >:( >:( >:(
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 97320
  • Millennium Man
    • The missus mad
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #37 on: 09 May 2018, 18:03:52 »

a real-life young, scantily clad Jenny Agutter..
I saw Railway Children for the first time ever at the weekend.
Logged
I don't tolerate bickering, and I'm always grumpy.
And Lizzie Zoom says I'm a heartless bastid...and she's absolutely correct!

BazaJT

  • Omega Lord
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • SLady bitshorpe N.Lincs.
  • Posts: 5676
    • Omega 3 litre Elite
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #38 on: 09 May 2018, 22:01:49 »

Bet you're sorry now that you haven't watched it more often :D ;D
Logged

Tilbo

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • SOUTH LINCS.
  • Posts: 4117
    • Mercedes E 430& Terracan
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #39 on: 10 May 2018, 05:47:53 »

Heard about this a few months back, don't really know what to think about it we started with nothing but consider ourselves comfortably off, worked hard for what we have now and never expected handouts ,£25,000 a considerable sum but would it be used wisely ? In this day & age I don't think so ,really think this country is going down the pan so if I were under 25 and had skills that were wanted I would use the money to emigrate to a less "snowflake" country.
« Last Edit: 10 May 2018, 05:50:01 by Tilbo »
Logged
Just cruising.When you are old you know everything,trouble is you have to deal with people who know nothing.

aaronjb

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northampton
  • Posts: 833
    • '16 Skoda, '06 BMW 650i
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #40 on: 10 May 2018, 08:54:30 »

a real-life young, scantily clad Jenny Agutter..
I saw Railway Children for the first time ever at the weekend.

Which one.. the 1968 TV version when she was 15 or 16 (just), or the 1970 film version when she was definitely legal?  :P ;D
Logged
..and it went 'dugga dugga dugga dugga' no more.

Sir Tigger QC

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 14523
    • BMW 530d & a Ford
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #41 on: 10 May 2018, 09:03:29 »


........ really think this country is going down the pan so if I were under 25 and had skills that were wanted I would use the money to emigrate to a less "snowflake" country.

Where would you go then?  ???

I think you'll find much of the 'developed' world is much the same these days ie one big snowflake, so the alternative is the third world (or developing world  as we now call it.)  with it's crumbling infrastructure, corruption and extreme levels of violent crime.  ;)

I suppose a sunny snowflake country would be an improvement?  ::)  Australia perhaps?  :y
« Last Edit: 10 May 2018, 09:06:55 by Sir Tigger QC »
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

JC is not The Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10578
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #42 on: 10 May 2018, 09:17:47 »

Would the south eastern US count?  :-\
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

Sir Tigger QC

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West Dorset
  • Posts: 14523
    • BMW 530d & a Ford
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #43 on: 10 May 2018, 10:17:47 »

Would the south eastern US count?  :-\

Florida? Count as what? Snowflake or non snowflake?  ???

I think the term snowflake was invented in the US, no?  :-\
Logged
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

JC is not The Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

  • Over Active Thyroid
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • South Lincolnshire
  • Posts: 21304
  • Isn't she lovely.
    • Signum 2.8 T & Jaguar XFR
    • View Profile
Re: Pensioners....get yer wallets out
« Reply #44 on: 10 May 2018, 10:31:41 »

a real-life young, scantily clad Jenny Agutter..
I saw Railway Children for the first time ever at the weekend.

Which one.. the 1968 TV version when she was 15 or 16 (just), or the 1970 film version when she was definitely legal?  :P ;D

Maybe I'm odd but I always fancied Dinah Sheridan more than Jenny Agutter in 1970. :)
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 8   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.178 seconds with 21 queries.