Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: 1 [2] 3  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Here We Go Again.  (Read 884 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #15 on: 19 June 2018, 21:07:01 »

Thanks Jon. :y..have 1 from previous issue on last omega so if need be will try that first  :y

Al..yes I put 12 volts across motor weekend before last before I changed hedgehog and fan ran smooth and silent but as on full chat difficult to tell if lower speeds or start on low settings is a tad rough.
Like the idea of using the dipstick though so thanks for that suggestion.


Will see how next few days go and then make a plan of attack,but cant see any harm in trying abit of oil in the meantime
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10869
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #16 on: 19 June 2018, 22:06:11 »

I almost certainly have a climate panel in stock if required  ;)
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #17 on: 19 June 2018, 22:21:29 »

Cheers Al...unbelievably I also have found one in my stock of "maybe useful spares" so will try the oil first and see if that removes the intermittent issues of yesterday,but appreciate you guys offering the bits  :y

Today all is behaving its self again 8)
Logged

cam.in.head

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • West yorkshire
  • Posts: 601
    • omega cdx 2.6 auto
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #18 on: 20 June 2018, 00:01:57 »

Try make sure the oil reaches the bearings only.do not get any onto the commutator where the brushes run.i think to do this you may have to remove the fan/motor itself to get to both ends. (Although you may be able to reach in and spin the fan to see if it is stiff or not)As suggested try12v to motor when its playing up and check connections are sound to motor and hedgehog.
Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 34567
    • 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #19 on: 20 June 2018, 09:30:18 »

Getting to the bearing on the commutator end of the motor isn't too bad, but the bearing on the other end would require it to be removed from the car and the fan removed from the motor shaft, IME, which can be a bit of a challenge.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #20 on: 20 June 2018, 09:57:28 »

Have a spare fan which seems to turn freely.

When I checked original fan it did move quite freely and with 12 volts it burst into live,although this doesn't rule out slight sticking from slow start though.

My plan is to remove pollen filter and see if I can get a few drops of oil onto the hopefully visible shaft end and go from there .

If that doesn't work I do have all the bits to replace..although as suggested possibly the hedgehog may not like trying to start a slightly sticking fan motor and that may be a further issue despite just being replaced
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10869
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #21 on: 20 June 2018, 13:54:03 »

Random fan control and a fan which works with power applied, coupled with a new hedgehog suggests a control problem rather than a fan one...

Dry fan bearings result in an almost permanent 'hamster wheel' type squeak, initially at low speed, rather 'I thought I heard something when I first turned it on but not sure if it was paranoia or the radio' noises...  ;)
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10869
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #22 on: 20 June 2018, 13:54:57 »

Besides, it's only one radio and three screws to swap the panel out ;D
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

TD

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Swindon
  • Posts: 1152
    • Now a 2.0TD Ford
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #23 on: 20 June 2018, 17:15:19 »

Ive had a blower motor before, that would run fine with 12v directly applied to it, but wouldn't run driven by the hedgehog.
The cause of the problem was the commutator had become blackened/carbonised by the brushes.
Once I had cleaned the commutator with wire wool, it behaved itself and ran fine with the hedgehog  :y

So maybe that's your problem  :-\
Logged

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #24 on: 20 June 2018, 17:34:36 »

Loads of options,which I,m greatful for.

Plan is to try and get some lubrication on the existing fan top bearings through the pollen filter access , and then see if the issues return.If that solves it then so be and good.

If not then I intend removing the existing fan and comparing its free movement and running on 12 volts with spare I have.If that shows a major difference then think fan is probably due replacing.

Should the existing fan seem to compare similar to that which I have and both are free moving I intend replacing the lot...fan/climate control as have both to hand and whilst its all apart then think the effort involved then is less.
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10869
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #25 on: 20 June 2018, 19:08:28 »

Would be better to try one thing, if that doesn't work swap it back out and try the next thing...

If changing both doesn't work, then you have no way of knowing which part is the problem... ;)
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #26 on: 20 June 2018, 20:54:33 »

Agree Al,and under most situations I would prefer to diagnose the root cause and fix problem,not just change parts for the sake of it.

Given I have both a spare blower motor and a climate panel and as the fault is very intermittent I could possible just replace the climate panel or blower to find a day/week /month or maybe never the fault reappears,and then end up pulling things apart again.

As I know the hedgehog is new and seems to be working as it should that is the 3rd of the 3 links in the chain,I will if need be after getting the easier possible fix tried first..bit of lubrication..just replace 1 and 2 and be done with .


Thanks for guidance though ...can,t afford the time and effort pulling things apart on a regular basis.
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 97502
  • Millennium Man
    • The missus mad
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #27 on: 21 June 2018, 17:30:46 »

Never seen a climate panel fail in that way, so I'd go for proper diagnosis.
Logged
I don't tolerate bickering, and I'm always grumpy.
And Lizzie Zoom says I'm a heartless bastid...and she's absolutely correct!

amba

  • Omega Baron
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Medway towns
  • Posts: 4323
    • 2003.BLACK 3.2 ELITE
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #28 on: 26 June 2018, 21:40:32 »

Fan motor removed at the weekend and found that part of 1 of the blades had a broken vane and think the broken bit had a some point either jammed the motor and burnt the resistor out or had caused it to run slower putting extra load on electrics.

Anyway replacement fan blower fitted and no further issues.

Thanks all for advise and guidance  :y
Logged

Doctor Gollum

  • Omega Queen
  • ********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • In a colds and darks puddleses
  • Posts: 10869
  • If you can't eat them, join them...
    • Feetses.
    • View Profile
Re: Here We Go Again.
« Reply #29 on: 26 June 2018, 22:13:13 »

Job jobbed then :y
Logged
Onanists always think outside the box.
Pages: 1 [2] 3  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.158 seconds with 22 queries.