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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #15 on: 05 July 2018, 16:16:44 »

The next question you need to ask is will 27 disparate countries agree to the plan...........? Of course they will. ;D ;D ;D ;D
This is a key point oft overlooked...

We will end up with a hard, WTO driven Brexit regardless... There will never be an unanimous decision made by 27 countries. Ever. And if one country has an issue with one point, however minor then the EU cannot sign/agree it.

Best thing TM can do is publicly admit this and tell the EU to conceded this point and remind them that THEY have 9 months to sort their shit out because it's happening regardless.

You 'may' be correct, Al.

And if we leave on WTO terms presumably we don't/won't have to pay the small matter of 39 billion pounds ....(thirty nine thousand million pounds) l have no trouble finding that amount down the back of my sofa. 8)

FTFY
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #16 on: 05 July 2018, 18:17:54 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #17 on: 05 July 2018, 18:38:19 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.

The whole Brexit episode is a giant clusterf*uck. :-\

Does it really need to be so difficult and complicated? :-\
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #18 on: 05 July 2018, 21:37:42 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.

The opinion poll I saw sajid Javid way in front. The usual suspects including Boris and those mentioned above were way down .cant find the link.

I dont believe Corbyn doesnt want to get on. No politicianwould turn down the chance surely. Dangerous game waiting for a better time....
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #19 on: 05 July 2018, 22:11:58 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.

The opinion poll I saw sajid Javid way in front. The usual suspects including Boris and those mentioned above were way down .cant find the link.

I dont believe Corbyn doesnt want to get on. No politicianwould turn down the chance surely. Dangerous game waiting for a better time....
Give me Corbyn over Javid any day. He has got zero going for him, in my opinion.
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #20 on: 05 July 2018, 22:16:46 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.

Defence Minister Gavin Williamson or Home Secretary Sajid Javid, both have vision, are leaders & take responsibility & get things done. All the qualities that Appeaser May is totally lacking. May should of stuck to being the fashion dressing office bimbo or Margaret Thatcher's shoe cleaner or like English kings used to have her official arse wiper, if she really must have a job in politics. :) IMO since her delusions of grandeur of becoming an MP she has been totally out of her depth. :( :( :(

Where May is taking the UK is a trap & straight after the next election the winning party will declare we have to follow all the EUSSR rules with having no say, so we are rejoining to have our say. The terms will be no rebate so we are the biggest net contributor, joining the Euro, freedom of movement & taking the majority of economic refugees landing in southern Europe. >:( >:( >:( The reality is that the anti-EU MPs are the useful fools of the Tory party (John Redwood didn't like it when I told him that  ;D) to get the votes from their anti-EU spin respectability while the rest of the Tory party always have been & always will be rabid europhiles. Howe, Heseltine, Clarke & Sosbury are typical examples of their type. >:( >:( >:(

We would never had the Brexit referendum without many 2010 tactical UKIP voters and polls saying we intended to vote UKIP again in the 2015 election to pollsters. So CaMoron offered the referendum as a vote winner & then fell on his sword. :y :y :y

I suspect that this will make the Tories long term split into two parties of anti & pro EU and they will be out of office for at least 28 years at best or end up like the Liberal party after Lloyd George. :(
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #21 on: 05 July 2018, 23:13:22 »

Williamson (private pike) is a dickhead who hasn't the gravitas or experience to run a car boot stall never mind a country.
Javid is a spineless useless little coward. He was extremely Eurosceptic until he thought it might damage his career, by going against Cameron in the referendum so he suddenly became a remainer. A complete non entity.
At least Theresa just hid behind the sofa until the whole thing was over.
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #22 on: 05 July 2018, 23:28:46 »

Defence Minister Gavin Williamson......

Rods please tell me you are joking about the fireplace salesman?  ???  :-\

If not you should shut up and go away!  ::)  ;D
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #23 on: 06 July 2018, 12:33:35 »

Defence Minister Gavin Williamson......

Rods please tell me you are joking about the fireplace salesman?  ???  :-\

If not you should shut up and go away!  ::)  ;D

What are the odds that Putin would kick the shit out of Williamson if they were locked in a room together?
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #24 on: 06 July 2018, 17:43:50 »

The result not expected till 10p.m. Uk time.

Would have loved tobe a fly on the wall. I read that it was likely some sessions would be politicians only , no civil servants.

Will we be given the low down on Saturday.................
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #25 on: 06 July 2018, 18:26:13 »

The result not expected till 10p.m. Uk time.

Would have loved tobe a fly on the wall. I read that it was likely some sessions would be politicians only , no civil servants.

Will we be given the low down on Saturday.................
It'll be a fudge.

It won't be a 'proper' brexit.

Mr Albitz good friend Tony Blair will probably he happy enough though. :)
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #26 on: 06 July 2018, 18:53:39 »

How do we go about calling in the Generals ?  ::)
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #27 on: 06 July 2018, 19:58:43 »

I was listening to Ian Dale on LBC on the way to work this evening. If the details leaked to him re the white paper are accurate, then Theresa the Appeaser is indeed trying to take us down the BRINO route.
In this scenario, I can see civil war breaking out in the Tory party, possibly triggered by the resignation of David Davis, who has been sidelined and ignored.
She will then probably have to go, and there might be another general election, although no-one, including Corbyn wants one.
Problem is, if the Tories get shot of the useless May, who is fit to replace her ? Hopefully not Boris or Gove. I would probably be in favour of Davis out of the possible candidates.
We might know the answers to these questions by this time next week. We shall see.

The whole Brexit episode is a giant clusterf*uck. :-\

Does it really need to be so difficult and complicated? :-\

Apeaser May at her most useless, who would of guessed it with her track record of disasters. :D :D :D
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #28 on: 06 July 2018, 21:09:16 »

Well a collective agreement has been reached by the cabinet.
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Re: Brexit Friday.
« Reply #29 on: 06 July 2018, 21:13:17 »

Which will last until about 9am tomorrow morning.  ::)
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