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Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« on: 11 October 2018, 16:15:11 »

Its looking more and more like this self build is going to come off and I'll need something that is 4wd and can tow a good amount. Budget of around 2-3k max and I don't want to be lying under it every verse end - I'll be busy enough thanks!  ;D

So far, the pick of the pack is the terracan, followed closely by the shogun. I'd prefer 2 pedals over 3 in any event.

I seem to remember someone on here had one. Tilbo maybe? Wondered how they are to own and tow with.

TIA  :y
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #1 on: 11 October 2018, 16:19:36 »

Its looking more and more like this self build is going to come off and I'll need something that is 4wd and can tow a good amount. Budget of around 2-3k max and I don't want to be lying under it every verse end - I'll be busy enough thanks!  ;D

So far, the pick of the pack is the terracan, followed closely by the shogun. I'd prefer 2 pedals over 3 in any event.

I seem to remember someone on here had one. Tilbo maybe? Wondered how they are to own and tow with.

TIA  :y

I believe you are correct.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #2 on: 11 October 2018, 18:40:41 »


Budget of around 2-3k max and I don't want to be lying under it every verse end - I'll be busy enough thanks!  ;D

This rules out anything with a Land Rover badge then!  ;D
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #3 on: 11 October 2018, 18:45:14 »

Cool, if he doesn't spot the thread I'll PM him. Looking on the internet it seems a remarkably trouble free vehicle.

It's only issue seems to be that it's catastrophically ugly. Which is fine.

This rules out anything with a Land Rover badge then!  ;D

Precisely! There are a plethora of 4.0v8 discos in budget. And on some of them it even takes two glances to spot the rust.  ::)

I've watched my father suffer through over a decade of RR P38 ownership - it'll be a long time (if ever) before I buy a JLR product again!
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« Reply #4 on: 11 October 2018, 21:05:31 »

it'll be a long time (if ever) before I buy a JLR product again!
The post BMW ones are an awful lot better...  ...Ford did a half decent job of sorting stuff out, and the Indians have finished it off.
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« Reply #5 on: 11 October 2018, 21:12:04 »

Mercedes ML will tow 3.5t, license permitting...

Cheap enough to be disposable  ;)

Mitsubishi and Hyundai both reliable, but any significant repairs will cost Some of our older Shotguns, '57/8 have done nearly 300k miles, but still fetch well north of 3k at auction :o
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #6 on: 11 October 2018, 21:16:36 »

Newer Hyundai always top the JD Power reliability surveys. Not sure if it is because they really are that reliable, or if the reliability outstrips peoples expectations of a semi-budget marque.

Older Hyundai cars though, hmmm. Even worse with the 4 wheel drive variants early on.  Not helped by the serviceability being an afterthought on some of their early attempts, such as having to cut the carpet on early Santa Fe's to change the fuel filter.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #7 on: 11 October 2018, 21:17:58 »

That's the same reason I ruled out land cruisers. They can be old and ropey as you like, but you're not getting one for less than 3k and some of the older ones seem woefully underpowered (140-150bhp, 165 ft lbs).

Not considered an ML, thought they were a) more expensive and b) didn't tow that much. Cheers :y
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #8 on: 11 October 2018, 22:48:12 »



This rules out anything with a Land Rover badge then!  ;D

Precisely! There are a plethora of 4.0v8 discos in budget. And on some of them it even takes two glances to spot the rust.  ::)

I've watched my father suffer through over a decade of RR P38 ownership - it'll be a long time (if ever) before I buy a JLR product again!

Well joking apart, a Disco 2 TD5 would be ideal if you can find a decent one.  :y

There are loads about, spares are cheap and readily available, good for towing, cavernous van like interior with the back seats down, there are plenty of Land Rover specialists about and there is good forum support.  :y

Plus these are becoming sought after and are commanding good prices!  If you looked after it, you'd sell it easily and get a good price as well!  :)

Not only would it be higher up the Cool Wall than anything else in that budget, you'd learn to love it with all that crawling around under it!  ;D

In Budget  :y

Not In Budget  :o  ::)
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #9 on: 11 October 2018, 23:35:13 »

Well joking apart, a Disco 2 TD5 would be ideal if you can find a decent one.  :y

There are loads about, spares are cheap and readily available, good for towing, cavernous van like interior with the back seats down, there are plenty of Land Rover specialists about and there is good forum support.  :y

Plus these are becoming sought after and are commanding good prices!  If you looked after it, you'd sell it easily and get a good price as well!  :)

Not only would it be higher up the Cool Wall than anything else in that budget, you'd learn to love it with all that crawling around under it!  ;D

In Budget  :y

SEE! That's exactly what I'm talking about!!

Looks nice, seems like it'll do the job, but 6m down the line I'll be under it trying to change the clutch, fix 3 coolant leaks and trying to weld up 89 structural holes, all in a weekend. Its a trap I tells ya!  ;D

Plus my welding looks like metallic pigeon sh!t.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #10 on: 11 October 2018, 23:48:19 »


Plus my welding looks like metallic pigeon sh!t.

Dosn't matter as it'd be out of sight and lathered over with grease, Hammerite or whatever was kicking about at the time.  ;D

I had a quick look at Terracan's and they are cheap! A lot of motor for the money!   :y 

A friend of mine had a Tucson, smaller but good fun to drive.  She had it for ages and put some serious mileage on it with little trouble.  :y

They both have the looks only a Mother could love though!  ;D

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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #11 on: 12 October 2018, 00:59:05 »

it'll be a long time (if ever) before I buy a JLR product again!
The post BMW ones are an awful lot better...  ...Ford did a half decent job of sorting stuff out, and the Indians have finished it off.

While you may be proved right, history has shown me they're sh!te, and I'll need time to be convinced.

The only two people I know personally who've had modern jags have both suffered problems I consider unacceptable in a modern car.

1. Facelift Gen 1 XF (less than 3yrs old do thankfully a warranty job) dead electrics due to a boot full of water from leaking light cluster. The same issue that afflicted our x-type and many others. Clearly not learning from their mistakes.

2. XJ 3.0D with bubbling paint at less than 5yrs old. Not an uncommon problem and utterly utterly unacceptable to me on a car made in this decade.

Time will tell I'm sure, but JLR is not for me for the foreseeable future.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #12 on: 12 October 2018, 01:18:05 »

What about a Ssangyong Rexton?  ::)

I bet they're cheap!  ;D
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #13 on: 12 October 2018, 06:04:55 »

What about a Ssangyong Rexton?  ::)

I bet they're hideously ugly!  ;D
You're not wrong  :D
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« Reply #14 on: 12 October 2018, 07:54:42 »

Have had to put a gearbox in a TerribleCan in the past 12 months, transfer box is also not great.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #15 on: 12 October 2018, 09:42:43 »

Yes it's me 😀 bought mine in 2012 with 25,000 miles on the clock now on 75,000 and has never missed a beat will tow our twin axle Elldis Crusader Storm as if it's not even
there, towing MPG 26 average 30 solo best was 33. Serviced once a year always use genuine parts , timing belt every 6 years or 60,000 miles . Absolutely brilliant off road & are capable of mega mileages if looked after. Most people who have owned one would buy another if still produced. Mine is a late 2005 & I have every intention of keeping it for at least another 5 years , timing belt etc was changed earlier this year at main dealer. Don't see many in the UK plenty in Spain where I am at present , they are very popular in Australia where I am led to believe most ended up there is an owner's forum which I went on when I first considered buying one which was extremely helpful. I paid 5450 for mine from eBay private seller who needed the cash for a business venture really wanted around 6500 but accepted my best offer, so it owes me nothing now I consider it to be an absolute bargain.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #16 on: 12 October 2018, 11:14:59 »

Thanks Tilbo, sounds promising, although I'll be fishing at the lower end of the market! Mpg is better than I would have expected  :y, take it yours is a manual?

My concern over a 3 pedal car is that buying with about 100k on and then doing serious towing seems a recipe for a busted clutch/ dmf (if fitted).
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #18 on: 12 October 2018, 11:36:19 »

Yes mine is a manual , the lady who I bought it from bought it new she told me that she was advised by the dealership not to use supermarket fuel, after going on the forum a few owners had problems with injectors & all switched to premium brands which solved the problems I have always used BP diesel with no issues.
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« Reply #20 on: 12 October 2018, 13:13:14 »

Thanks Tilbo, sounds promising, although I'll be fishing at the lower end of the market! Mpg is better than I would have expected  :y, take it yours is a manual?

My concern over a 3 pedal car is that buying with about 100k on and then doing serious towing seems a recipe for a busted clutch/ dmf (if fitted).
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Mine is still on the original clutch , I never ride the clutch on my cars & have never replaced a clutch in any of my previous vehicles. I met a chap at a caravan site a couple of years ago with aTerracan who had just had the clutch replaced at 130,000 miles at the main dealer cost just under 900 .He had  owned the vehicle from new.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #21 on: 12 October 2018, 18:25:34 »

Hardly ground breaking clutch life... 135k is pretty typical for an Omega clutch  :D
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« Reply #22 on: 12 October 2018, 20:56:04 »

Hardly ground breaking clutch life... 135k is pretty typical for an Omega clutch  :D
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« Reply #23 on: 12 October 2018, 22:41:55 »

it'll be a long time (if ever) before I buy a JLR product again!
The post BMW ones are an awful lot better...  ...Ford did a half decent job of sorting stuff out, and the Indians have finished it off.

While you may be proved right, history has shown me they're sh!te, and I'll need time to be convinced.

The only two people I know personally who've had modern jags have both suffered problems I consider unacceptable in a modern car.

1. Facelift Gen 1 XF (less than 3yrs old do thankfully a warranty job) dead electrics due to a boot full of water from leaking light cluster. The same issue that afflicted our x-type and many others. Clearly not learning from their mistakes.

2. XJ 3.0D with bubbling paint at less than 5yrs old. Not an uncommon problem and utterly utterly unacceptable to me on a car made in this decade.

Time will tell I'm sure, but JLR is not for me for the foreseeable future.
1st gen XF is little more than a properly configured X Type.  But I thought all the X type common issues (rust and leaks) were resolved.  I know the 8 speed gearbox initially caused a lot of issues when it was introduced (around 2011/2012) but otherwise there seem to be no serious common faults.

My XJ paintwork suffers. Not sure if its from factory or if its been touched up (few places seem to be able to properly do Ali)
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #24 on: 12 October 2018, 23:44:37 »

Hardly ground breaking clutch life... 135k is pretty typical for an Omega clutch  :D

I'd guess it depends what you do with em. I'd consider 130k pretty good if doing a lot of heavy towing, but total bobbins if trolling up and down the motorway for a living.

And trust me, if you could buy a 4wd omega that could tow 3.5T, I'd be buying one!
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #25 on: 13 October 2018, 00:06:48 »

This one has very low mileage and a very good MOT history. Only been doing a bout 4K miles a year
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201809280956537?advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1501&model=TERRACAN&postcode=bs32ab&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&make=HYUNDAI&sort=sponsored&page=1

It's a pity I'm not in s place to go looking now, that does look a smart one for sure, 3 pedals notwithstanding.
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« Reply #26 on: 13 October 2018, 00:21:28 »


Mitsubishi and Hyundai both reliable, but any significant repairs will cost Some of our older Shotguns, '57/8 have done nearly 300k miles, but still fetch well north of 3k at auction :o

Sounds like MrsGKs work - their Shoguns are on moon miles and very rarely put a foot wrong. She's quite attached to them.
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« Reply #27 on: 13 October 2018, 01:02:25 »

Hardly ground breaking clutch life... 135k is pretty typical for an Omega clutch  :D
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As was I ;)

Hardly ground breaking clutch life... By way of example, 135k is pretty typical for an Omega clutch  :D
Edited as my meaning was clearly , er, unclear ::)
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« Reply #28 on: 13 October 2018, 20:07:44 »

My Hyundai contact confirms weak power train on well used ones
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« Reply #29 on: 14 October 2018, 08:35:55 »

Regarding the looks of the vehicle when I was on the owners forum a real enthusiastic owner in Australia who had shown some of his off road experiences, had also obtained a "chrome garnish kit" which consists of a one piece chrome front grille , bonnet air intake trim, mirror covers & rear light trim , I really liked the look of it & managed to get the kit direct from Korea for around 200 the front now looks identical to a Toyota Land Cruiser which quite a few folk have mistaken it for. It is without doubt a copy of a a Land Cruiser in its design . My final bit of advice would be to try & find a one owner one with full history which I did & have kept up with religiously I now think of it as a comfortable reliable vehicle which is totally capable in any conditions you throw at it. I have owned several 4x4s over the last 30 years the best have been Hyundai & Subaru.
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« Reply #30 on: 14 October 2018, 15:59:39 »

Thanks for the advice all  :y

As always when fishing in the cheap end of the pond, I'll probably buy the car based on condition and history rather than specific model. Terracan us still on the list, alongside the shogun, Jeep Grand Cherokee (4.0L), mercedes ML.

Well have to see what's about when the time comes (hopefully soon).
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« Reply #31 on: 14 October 2018, 16:06:29 »

I like the sound of the 'facelift' Tilbo refers to.  :y

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« Reply #32 on: 14 October 2018, 17:10:11 »

I like the sound of the 'facelift' Tilbo refers to.  :y

Any photo's Tilbo?  ???  :)
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« Reply #33 on: 14 October 2018, 17:12:04 »

I like the sound of the 'facelift' Tilbo refers to.  :y

Any photo's Tilbo?  ???  :)
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« Reply #34 on: 15 October 2018, 22:00:57 »

Mercedes ML will tow 3.5t, license permitting...

Cheap enough to be disposable  ;)

Mitsubishi and Hyundai both reliable, but any significant repairs will cost Some of our older Shotguns, '57/8 have done nearly 300k miles, but still fetch well north of 3k at auction :o

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« Reply #35 on: 15 October 2018, 22:04:15 »

Highways would be my guess. The shogun is a favourite of the road wombles and I can see them clocking up that kinda mileage.
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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #36 on: 16 October 2018, 00:04:05 »

Mercedes ML will tow 3.5t, license permitting...

Cheap enough to be disposable  ;)

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« Reply #37 on: 16 October 2018, 00:15:45 »

Highways would be my guess. The shogun is a favourite of the road wombles and I can see them clocking up that kinda mileage.
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« Reply #38 on: 16 October 2018, 08:37:52 »

:) I thought HE as well... Never mind!
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« Reply #39 on: 16 October 2018, 09:21:03 »

If I was ever going to venture into Shogun etc. territory, I think my only choice would be a Toyota Landcruiser. Not the cheapest, but you you wouldn't lose money on one when you sold it.
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« Reply #40 on: 16 October 2018, 09:41:33 »

:) I thought HE as well... Never mind!
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« Reply #41 on: 16 October 2018, 10:27:24 »

If I was ever going to venture into Shogun etc. territory, I think my only choice would be a Toyota Landcruiser. Not the cheapest, but you you wouldn't lose money on one when you sold it.

Yup, and this was the default choice, however, anything with less than 250k seems to be edging up to 5,000. Given how tight cashflow will be on the build, I can't really justify the extra spend.  :-\
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« Reply #42 on: 16 October 2018, 10:38:22 »

An older ML with MoT is about a fifth of that ;)

Won't be too pretty at that level, but if you break it, simply get another one...

That said, if you want to go the Toyota route, then a Hilux/Fourunner would do the same job as the LC for half the cost... Just double check the tow weights on the chassis plate as not all 3.5t ;)
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« Reply #43 on: 16 October 2018, 11:00:51 »

Tilbo's Terracan.  :y



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« Reply #44 on: 16 October 2018, 13:01:03 »

Many thanks Tigger,  will get some pics of the Merc to you sometime.😎
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« Reply #45 on: 16 October 2018, 13:56:39 »

Looks like someone did a cut and shut with an ML and a Kia Sedona :D

Did a good job on the paint though... Shiny :y
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« Reply #46 on: 16 October 2018, 14:01:17 »

Looks like someone did a cut and shut with an ML and a Kia Sedona :D

Did a good job on the paint though... Shiny :y
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It is a blatant copy of several other 4x4s from various angles , actually it needs & a good wash & polish.
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« Reply #47 on: 16 October 2018, 17:44:16 »

Had no end of Shoguns as hire cars back when the holiday isle of sunny Cyprus had less tarmac.  Being hire cars, none of them were more than 30-40k km.  And all were thoroughly shagged.

Granted, they were hire cars (with the god awful 2.8TD they used to fit), but I'd expect them to withstand the abuse much better.

They stopped doing them in the end, presumably because they were proper shagged after 2yrs, with limited resale value...  ...although coincided with a lot of money poured into the country and improved road infrastructure, so maybe not completely due to the Shogun being shite.  Although we did have a couple of years with big Nissan Non-descripts - a bit agricultural, but far better built and far less shagged than the Shoguns.
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« Reply #48 on: 16 October 2018, 17:54:12 »

An older ML with MoT is about a fifth of that ;)


And it will give you so much trouble that you'll wish that you'd bought a Disco 2, which is not only properly capable but you can actually get underneath the damn thing!  ;D
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« Reply #49 on: 16 October 2018, 18:06:44 »

An older ML with MoT is about a fifth of that ;)


And it will give you so much trouble that you'll wish that you'd bought a Disco 2, which is not only properly capable but you can actually get underneath the damn thing!  ;D
But may rust a tiny bit ::)
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« Reply #50 on: 16 October 2018, 18:11:06 »

An older ML with MoT is about a fifth of that ;)


And it will give you so much trouble that you'll wish that you'd bought a Disco 2, which is not only properly capable but you can actually get underneath the damn thing to weld the holes up!  ;D
But may rust a tiny bit ::)

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Re: Hyundai Terracan - who had one?
« Reply #51 on: 16 October 2018, 18:15:10 »

An older ML with MoT is about a fifth of that ;)


And it will give you so much trouble that you'll wish that you'd bought a Disco 2, which is not only properly capable but you can actually get underneath the damn thing!  ;D
But may rust a tiny bit ::)


If the transmission lasted long enough for the car to rust. They're prone to electrical faults and poor quality trim too. All of which make them exactly Merc's equivalent of a Range Rover.
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« Reply #52 on: 16 October 2018, 18:37:52 »

What more do you need from a builder's skip :y
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« Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 09:00:00 »

What more do you need from a builder's skip :y

If that's what it'll be (which, given Jimmy's project, it will be) .. why not just buy a Transit and be done with it?

I know, I know - they rust, fall apart etc. But a friend of my other half's has just done exactly that - bought one for 300 and will run it until it falls apart/fails the MOT because he was spending far more than that hiring vans to collect building stuff for his project. And at 300, it's disposable .. just get one with a long ticket on it!
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« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 10:29:56 »

What more do you need from a builder's skip :y

If that's what it'll be (which, given Jimmy's project, it will be) .. why not just buy a Transit and be done with it?

I had 100% considered both the van and pickup options. Van has 2 things against it, the pickup 1.

When doing our current house the omega saved us (conservatively) 2k in skips. I need this vehicle to do the same, and vans/pickups can't be taken into household waste disposal sites.

The second thing against the van is that the project comes with c2 acres which needs  drainage, fencing, pathways etc. So the ability to take vehicle and trailer across a wet field is also high on the agenda. Hence 4x4, which is fine for the pickup, just not (many) vans

The easiest potential compromise is the 3.5T towing capacity. Something with 2-2.5T capacity would most likely do the job. But, for the sake of component longevity (I'm looking for a 3yr life minimum) I'd prefer something that isn't used close to its operating limit for a significant portion of its time.
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