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Rear pass side break kine
« on: 27 October 2018, 13:25:08 »

Just come back with no breaks. Not even a break light on so checked the reservoir and itís empty so had. Look on ground weíre been parked an looks like itís leaking above the exhaust pipe area anyone know the fittings and pipe type or size? Cannot get under their today as itís raining.  Looks like the only area on main line.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #1 on: 27 October 2018, 15:08:34 »

It could easily be leaking from anywhere between the reservoir and the subframe.

The only sensible advice is to get it recovered to a garage. Especially as a)you can't be bother to get underneath it; b)you don't really want brake fluid in your face; c) it will need to have the abs pump actuated in order to bleed it once repaired as the unit will be full of air; d) just because that's where it's dripping from doesn't mean that's where the leak is, so it needs a proper inspection, see also a)...s
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #2 on: 27 October 2018, 17:25:06 »

Iíve been under with camara and it gone on the flex line or the cotection or pipe in that area. Iíve driven meany times before with no breaks.  Gears clutch and engine that how I was taught when I was driving. I replaced abs pump awhile ago when valve stuck closed. Anyone one know were to get the flex pipes from or part number please  no numbers on the pipe thanks
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #3 on: 27 October 2018, 17:45:39 »

You can buy the hoses from most factors: front/rears are £20/£10 from ECP. Nobody will sell you a pre-made pipe, but they're made using a flaring tool from cheap stock materials and fittings
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #4 on: 27 October 2018, 18:01:46 »

Iíve been under with camara and it gone on the flex line or the cotection or pipe in that area. Iíve driven meany times before with no breaks.  Gears clutch and engine that how I was taught when I was driving. I replaced abs pump awhile ago when valve stuck closed. Anyone one know were to get the flex pipes from or part number please  no numbers on the pipe thanks

FFS .... don't drive your car with no brakes.  You might be me on the roads somewhere near me & my family. Do as Doc G has said & get your car recovered to somewhere that will sort it for you.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #5 on: 27 October 2018, 18:05:08 »

..... Nobody will sell you a pre-made pipe, ...

Doesnt Vauxhall still sell them?  :-\ Probably an 4rse to fit though even if they do.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #6 on: 27 October 2018, 18:25:12 »

If you have a brake pipe flaring tool then the pipe itself can be bought in rolls from a motor factor as can the ends[I use kunifer pipe]other than that motor factors will make you one if you take your original pipe in to them[so they can measure for length] I suppose any local garage can do the same.Don't drive the thing anywhere that's just dangerous and downright irresponsible not to mention illegal.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #7 on: 27 October 2018, 19:00:00 »

thaks get it ordered on monday. and its not dangerous to drive with no brakes and not illegal, brake failure is covered in the highway code and advanced driving, also under the equivalent to driving on ice. handbrake is the emergency braking system not just for parking up, that's why it tested as it is on an mot. and it was the break warning fluid light that's not come on. Any way parked up till fixed anyway.   
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #8 on: 27 October 2018, 19:17:15 »

Driving without brakes is incredibly dangerous, youíve only got to be doing 30mph and for a little kid to step out in front of you.

Clutch/gears/hand brake would be useless in that situation, what is more scary is that you think itís acceptable to continue.  :o

Also itís brake, not break. You are not on a tea break when slowing a car.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #9 on: 27 October 2018, 20:46:27 »

Driving without brakes is incredibly dangerous, youíve only got to be doing 30mph and for a little kid to step out in front of you.

Clutch/gears/hand brake would be useless in that situation, what is more scary is that you think itís acceptable to continue.  :o

Also itís brake, not break. You are not on a tea break when slowing a car.

What he said  .....
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #10 on: 27 October 2018, 21:24:24 »

The light coming on or not is irrelevant as you should physically be checking it periodically any way :-X
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #11 on: 27 October 2018, 21:53:23 »

The light coming on or not is irrelevant as you should physically be checking it periodically any way :-X
Besides, if your car is a manual, the clutch not working should have rung a very loud alarm bell, especially if you are and 'advanced' driver :-X
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #12 on: 27 October 2018, 22:47:41 »

My local factor will no longer make up brake pipes for me 'for insurance reasons', but he allows me to do it with his kit.

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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #13 on: 28 October 2018, 01:15:42 »

thaks get it ordered on monday. and its not dangerous to drive with no brakes and not illegal, brake failure is covered in the highway code and advanced driving, also under the equivalent to driving on ice. handbrake is the emergency braking system not just for parking up, that's why it tested as it is on an mot. and it was the break warning fluid light that's not come on. Any way parked up till fixed anyway.


Try giving your reasoning that driving with no brakes is not dangerous nor illegal to the Traffic Police Officer that attends your accident (who incidentally will be a Class 1 Advanced Driver, not one of the attendees on the few 'courses' given by the Institute of Advanced Motorists either) to scrape up your bits (or more importantly, any 3rd party that you take out with you). And then try explaining it to the enivitable Court of Law that you would without doubt be appearing in front of....
And then to your insurance company....
The reference to brake failure / driving on ice is in relation to a sudden vehicle defect causing brake failure / sudden changes in weather conditions, not the blatant disregard for your and anyone elses' safety by driving a completely dangerous and unroadworthy vehicle knowing the defect is present.
The efficiency of a vehicles handbrake always used to be 16% to pass an MOT test, and although the figures may be a little different for today's vehicles, this minimum efficiency would do very little to stop the vehicle in the event of a sudden emergency.
But then, we all know you are only trying to wind us up about your total disregard for road safety - seriously, aren't you?  :y But frighteningly, maybe you're not.....
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #14 on: 28 October 2018, 09:10:40 »

I suspect many of us have lost footbrake function near home, and, after inspection, crept home a mile or so at reduced speed with extreme caution. My son Ben did so a few years back, having suffered a copper brake pipe fracturing. The original steel pipes were much stronger, but MOT testers delight in spotting surface rust on them.

I have not read that towing a car on the highway is illegal. If a car has no brakes, it should be the towing car. 
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #15 on: 28 October 2018, 12:13:45 »

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I have not read that towing a car on the highway is illegal. If a car has no brakes, it should be the towing car.

How about putting your hand in your pocket & get the car recovered .....
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #16 on: 28 October 2018, 12:25:36 »

thaks get it ordered on monday. and its not dangerous to drive with no brakes and not illegal, brake failure is covered in the highway code and advanced driving, also under the equivalent to driving on ice. handbrake is the emergency braking system not just for parking up, that's why it tested as it is on an mot. and it was the break warning fluid light that's not come on. Any way parked up till fixed anyway.


Of course driving with no dangerous, how the hell could it not be?


The handbrake IS the emergency braking system in case of sudden hydraulic failure. But that emergency finishes the instant the car is stationary. Continuing to drive the car afterwards is a very stupid thing to do.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #17 on: 28 October 2018, 13:01:34 »

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I have not read that towing a car on the highway is illegal. If a car has no brakes, it should be the towing car.

How about putting your hand in your pocket & get the car recovered .....
Seems the obvious thing to do to me. :-\
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #18 on: 28 October 2018, 21:07:59 »

I have not read that towing a car on the highway is illegal. If a car has no brakes, it should be the towing car.

Towing a car on a public highway is certainly not illegal. If using a tow rope, there are restrictions on the length of the tow rope, and the towed vehicle has to be able to display the appropriate rear lighting. Towing on a motorway incidentally, contrary to popular belief, is not illegal either. A person being towed by a tow rope has to have all the relavant documentation as well. A rigid bar has benefits over a tow rope, especially for those inexperienced in towing/ being towed.
I would certain not advocate any towing vehicle not to have brakes, beside the blatant offence(s) being committed, any vehicle with no brakes / a braking defect should not be mobile on a road whether it is under its own steam or not.
I can't believe some of the irresponsible suggestions that are being posted about knowingly using a vehicle with defective brakes...........
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #19 on: 29 October 2018, 00:19:11 »

.... Towing on a motorway incidentally, contrary to popular belief, is not illegal either. ...........
As I understand it .... a car can only be towed by a rope on a motor to the next exit .... certainly not entering a motorway on a rope.
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Re: Rear pass side break kine
« Reply #20 on: 29 October 2018, 01:01:08 »

.... Towing on a motorway incidentally, contrary to popular belief, is not illegal either. ...........
As I understand it .... a car can only be towed by a rope on a motor to the next exit .... certainly not entering a motorway on a rope.

There is nothing illegal about towing a vehicle on a motorway with a rope, whether it be to remove a stricken vehicle from the hard shoulder, or joining and travelling several junctions to tow a vehicle via the motorway to a destination, as long the tow rope is of the correct length, is marked to indicate the presence of the rope to other motorists, the stricken car is road legal, you preferably have an ON TOW sign in addition to the reg of the towing vehicle displayed, and the likelihood of your actions isn't going to cause danger to other road users.
Having said that, common sense should dictate that it IS a dangerous thing to do, as to the probable speed you would be towing at relative to the speed of other vehicles alone would make you a hazard in your own right. The likelihood of an issue if the tow rope becomes slack, or the towed vehicle runs over the rope, especially with those inexperienced in towing with a rope whether that be the tower or towee(?!?) are very high, and would be likely to land you in a lot more bother than the cost of a professional recovery, or at least the cost of a solid bar or 'A' frame which are infinitely safer, especially on a motorway.
In short, its not illegal, but certainly not recommended.
It's all common sense really, or should be.
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