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Oil sump
« on: 29 October 2018, 14:03:40 »

Are the oil sumps the same on all V6 models ??? I've found this one on the bay of fleas but want to ensure it fits the 3.2 V6     :)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-V6-MODELS-ENGINE-SUMP-IN-GOOD-USED-CONDITION/332832510348?hash=item4d7e5d118c:g:SaAAAOSw-btaoq31

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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #1 on: 29 October 2018, 14:24:48 »

According to the parts lists, on all V6 models of the Omega B (2.5,2.6,3.0 and 3.2), the lower sump pan is the same part no.
Currently 91584216, but that has previously replaced 90410838, 90501404, 90529968 and 90572705.
But in answer to your question - yes.
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #2 on: 29 October 2018, 17:30:12 »

Good price!  :y
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #3 on: 29 October 2018, 19:19:40 »

Thanks to all .. purchased this :) 

Having crawled under the car this afternoon and examined the corroded area I have a strong worry about it actually becoming a full leak and dumping all the oil out at once ... that wouldn't do the engine much good at all ...... especially if on the motorway with the tin tent on the back which is due to happen on 9th November .. so going for this to change it ASAP.
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #4 on: 29 October 2018, 22:20:57 »

Thanks to all .. purchased this :) 

Having crawled under the car this afternoon and examined the corroded area I have a strong worry about it actually becoming a full leak and dumping all the oil out at once ... that wouldn't do the engine much good at all ...... especially if on the motorway with the tin tent on the back which is due to happen on 9th November .. so going for this to change it ASAP.

Easy job to do Nige. IIRC it's the grey goo that's used to seal/glue it to the main ally sump.
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #5 on: 29 October 2018, 22:25:16 »

Thanks to all .. purchased this :) 

Having crawled under the car this afternoon and examined the corroded area I have a strong worry about it actually becoming a full leak and dumping all the oil out at once ... that wouldn't do the engine much good at all ...... especially if on the motorway with the tin tent on the back which is due to happen on 9th November .. so going for this to change it ASAP.

Easy job to do Nige. IIRC it's the grey goo that's used to seal/glue it to the main ally sump.

Thanks for that ... what is the "correct" name for "grey goo" !!  :)  I wonder what skurrays (or whoever they are now) will say if I ask for a tube of "grey goo" !!!
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #6 on: 29 October 2018, 22:28:29 »

Thanks to all .. purchased this :) 

Having crawled under the car this afternoon and examined the corroded area I have a strong worry about it actually becoming a full leak and dumping all the oil out at once ... that wouldn't do the engine much good at all ...... especially if on the motorway with the tin tent on the back which is due to happen on 9th November .. so going for this to change it ASAP.

Easy job to do Nige. IIRC it's the grey goo that's used to seal/glue it to the main ally sump.

Thanks for that ... what is the "correct" name for "grey goo" !!  :)  I wonder what skurrays (or whoever they are now) will say if I ask for a tube of "grey goo" !!!

I'm sure the kid on the other side of the parts desk will know exactly what you mean ...  ;D
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2018, 10:18:47 »

Yes I used the Grey Goo when I changed mine, but only because I had loads left from changing the oil cooler plate. 

Hylomar Blue or similar will do the job just as well and will be a lot cheaper from your closest car accessory shop.  :y
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2018, 15:16:59 »

Thanks to all .. purchased this :) 

Having crawled under the car this afternoon and examined the corroded area I have a strong worry about it actually becoming a full leak and dumping all the oil out at once ... that wouldn't do the engine much good at all ...... especially if on the motorway with the tin tent on the back which is due to happen on 9th November .. so going for this to change it ASAP.

Easy job to do Nige. IIRC it's the grey goo that's used to seal/glue it to the main ally sump.

Thanks for that ... what is the "correct" name for "grey goo" !!  :)  I wonder what skurrays (or whoever they are now) will say if I ask for a tube of "grey goo" !!!

I'm sure the kid on the other side of the parts desk will know exactly what you mean ...  ;D

If he's a kid he won't even know what an Omega is ::)
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2018, 17:39:04 »

Your local Loctite/Wurth/Kent/whatever stockist will sell you their equivalent.


I've never had any problem with using clear silicone in similar places, but I could hear the multiple sharp intake of breath as I typed this ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2018, 17:58:03 »

A good opportunity to clean out the oil strainer while your there.  :y
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2018, 18:15:03 »

Your local Loctite/Wurth/Kent/whatever stockist will sell you their equivalent.


I've never had any problem with using clear silicone in similar places, but I could hear the multiple sharp intake of breath as I typed this ;D

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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2018, 19:28:31 »

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oem-parts/gm-oil-pan-gasket-12378521 :y

How much do they charge for shipping? and then there's duty if you're unlucky.  ::)  :P  ;D

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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #16 on: 07 November 2018, 20:29:20 »

Iíve seen a few chemical metal repairs on oil pans. Seems to work absolutely fine.





*note this is not my recommendation, just saying 👍
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #17 on: 07 November 2018, 23:02:31 »

Iíve seen a few chemical metal repairs on oil pans. Seems to work absolutely fine.





*note this is not my recommendation, just saying 👍
I still need to fix the oil pan on my Elite but simply don't have the time to do it (otherwise I would have whipped it off, ground out the rust and welded it up months ago)

My assumption is that any adhesive 'repair' (bodge) will have a hard time sticking to the oily surface of the oil pan :-\ if there is some magic formulation that disperses the oil to bond to the metal beneath then I would be interested to know about it.
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« Reply #18 on: 08 November 2018, 09:40:04 »

Iíve seen a few chemical metal repairs on oil pans. Seems to work absolutely fine.





*note this is not my recommendation, just saying 👍
I still need to fix the oil pan on my Elite but simply don't have the time to do it (otherwise I would have whipped it off, ground out the rust and welded it up months ago)

My assumption is that any adhesive 'repair' (bodge) will have a hard time sticking to the oily surface of the oil pan :-\ if there is some magic formulation that disperses the oil to bond to the metal beneath then I would be interested to know about it.

I've no idea now how much the lower sump pan is, but when I last bought one years ago, it was £30 odd. Hardly worth the effort of repairing one ... just replace it.  :y
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #19 on: 08 November 2018, 18:27:25 »

I probably need to get the sump of my crate judging by the way it rattles on startup. as the pickup must be damn near blocked or the oil pump is on its last legs. bloody heap of junk..
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Re: Oil sump
« Reply #20 on: 11 November 2018, 21:19:12 »

As said Iíve seen it and Iíve seen them not leak. Not saying Iíd do that.

Plus note some oil pans are not easy to remove. Would I do that if my oil pan was a ten year job. Possibly. Thatís all Iím saying 👍
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« Reply #21 on: 12 November 2018, 18:16:00 »

Iíve seen a few chemical metal repairs on oil pans. Seems to work absolutely fine.





*note this is not my recommendation, just saying 👍
My tractor sump had chemical metal to rebuild the sump plug area (which was also helicoiled by that DTM chap), due to BMW specifying monkey metal...
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