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The latest outrage
« on: 06 November 2018, 18:59:16 »

Having just seen the news about the latest Grenfell outrage...

...the incident was in extremely poor taste, but arresting 5 people is a bit extreme, isn't it?
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #1 on: 06 November 2018, 19:15:09 »

Good job it wasnt Luther doing the arresting.

Three people would have been dead including his own wife.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #2 on: 06 November 2018, 19:17:35 »

One the one hand it could be argued that they should be arrested and culled for not only being stupid enough to do it, but also for filming it and uploading it to so shall meeja.
On the other hand there have been quite a few examples of effigies of Boris Johnson, Thatcher and others being burnt without anyone getting outraged.
Bottom line is, they apparently made anti muslim comments on the video, so will be done for a religious hatred offence.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #3 on: 06 November 2018, 19:30:44 »

Can you now be arrested for extreme bad taste? But yes, what a bunch of knobs.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #4 on: 06 November 2018, 19:31:17 »

Good job it wasnt Luther doing the arresting.

Three people would have been dead including his own wife.
I watched some of these now  :)
I don't think he is the answer to modern policing  :-X

as for arresting 5 ,they are making an example of them to avoid outrage
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #5 on: 06 November 2018, 21:01:54 »

Five working class white blokes arrested for celebrating Bonfire Night...*

Not sure how you can commit a public order offence in your back garden, at night :-\

*perhaps the least appropriate choice of effigy.

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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #6 on: 06 November 2018, 21:27:44 »

Good job it wasnt Luther doing the arresting.

Three people would have been dead including his own wife.
I watched some of these now  :)
I don't think he is the answer to modern policing  :-X

as for arresting 5 ,they are making an example of them to avoid outrage

Dave. Of course you are quite right. It was tongue in cheek.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #7 on: 06 November 2018, 21:31:59 »

Good job it wasnt Luther doing the arresting.

Three people would have been dead including his own wife.
I watched some of these now  :)
I don't think he is the answer to modern policing  :-X

as for arresting 5 ,they are making an example of them to avoid outrage

Dave. Of course you are quite right. It was tongue in cheek.
Indeed  ;)
we need someone tough to deal with the scum of today ,
Luther let some of them live  ::)



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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #8 on: 06 November 2018, 21:38:57 »

Bad taste? yes,Total lack of any common sense? most certainly.Not exactly the brightest bulbs in the chandelier? :-X :-X :-X
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #9 on: 06 November 2018, 22:17:59 »

Making fun of the deaths of 79 people was a disgraceful and disgusting thing to do.  >:(  However they did it in the supposed privacy of their back garden and had they not idiotically uploaded the video to the internet, nobody would have known.   ::)

Whether a crime has been committed or not seems uncertain, but the authorities will find something to charge them with to make an example of them and to appease the outraged!

Luckily, they have handed themselves in to the police otherwise I'm sure the Met would have allocated huge (scarce) resources into tracking them down.  ::)

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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #10 on: 06 November 2018, 22:22:38 »

It wasn't funny and it wasn't clever. Neither was it worthy of a lengthy slot on the prime time news.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #11 on: 06 November 2018, 22:44:42 »

Extreme bad taste and utterly stupid in loading it onto the internet but I also felt a bit uncomfortable about the repeated outpouring of media sympathy and outrage .

If there is anything more than a fine and warning here then it will be a disgrace .

I was in my local on Sunday night and as usual was being grilled about Brexit. One oppswit vociferously remarked that " in 20 years you Brits will bitterly regret Brexit " .
( I have translated what he mumbled in Kerrytone to English  so you can understand what he was saying.......)

It went right over his simple backcountry empty head when I said that in 20 years time Brexit will be the least of Britains regrets .
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #12 on: 07 November 2018, 00:28:36 »

Stupid and thoughtless also sad but give em a good bollocking and get on with it ffs
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #13 on: 07 November 2018, 09:36:38 »

An abhorrent act, without doubt, but one which caused no harm other than the obvious offence and the self-defamation of those who participated.

I only hope those whose incompetence caused the real Grenfell tower to be maintained in such a dangerous state are pursued with the same vigour by the legal system. ::)
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #14 on: 07 November 2018, 09:44:03 »

Exactly, Kevin; thanks for putting things in perspective. I never saw the news item and know only what I gather from this Forum, but it seems like the snowflakes and professional "offendeds" came out in force over a trivial - and private - incident?

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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #15 on: 07 November 2018, 10:05:22 »

I struggle with the logic of this.  It absolutely caused offence to probably hundreds of thousands of people.  BUT the offence was caused by the TV stations showing the damn stupid stunt on TV!  The back garden bullshit was just for their simpleton laughs, its the TV channels that have deliberately caused offence by broadcasting it.  IMO it is them who should be held to account.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #16 on: 07 November 2018, 12:22:25 »

In very bad taste and offensive to the more fragile kind, but neither are a criminal offence unless we scrap free speech which is a short road from freedom to dictatorship & much worse. >:( >:( >:( Mistake they have made is bad taste, threat of violence and death threats are all okay as long as it is the right type of left wing view from the constant mock outrage from the left wing ill-liberals. >:( >:( >:( UK MSM have much to answer for with their false framing, sensationalism & moke outrage with the Boys Buggering Corporation always at the forefront for this. >:( >:( >:(

It is important that the Met police ate tied up for 100's of hours along with the courts on this major crime, where it is fortunate they only have a few other minor crimes to spend a fews minutes on creating a crime number for, like the 5 knife murders over the last 6 days. :( :( :(
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #17 on: 07 November 2018, 23:04:41 »

Never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people are, talk about shit for brains! This day & age if you want to act like complete arseholes you don't go posting your moronic behaviour on line for public viewing.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #18 on: 08 November 2018, 00:10:19 »

Never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people are, talk about shit for brains! This day & age if you want to act like complete arseholes you don't go posting your moronic behaviour on line for public viewing.
It says as much about the people that watched it and then complained :-X

I very much doubt the title was man spots unicorn walking across a dreamscape meadow  ::)
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #19 on: 08 November 2018, 10:27:27 »

I think quite a few of us may have laughed at ,or told a joke that was not PC or in quite bad taste , I know i have .
the media have blown this "joke" up ,it sells newspapers .
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #20 on: 08 November 2018, 11:57:16 »

I don't know exactly how the famiklies and survivors felt about this 'prank' but I can tell you from experience how it feels to hear jokes about killing cyclists by running them over when that is exactly what happened to your own brother when you were young.  It hurts deeply to a point where the suffering can be indescribable, it also drags up buried memories that are less than pleasant to regurgitate.  The majority of good folk can understand this and stay away from such 'jokes' and 'banter'.  The problem is the minority and the only way to get them to change is to get the message out that it is wrong, sometimes the most effective way is through the police/media vehicle.  So while it might seem like PC gone mad there is an important element to the message that makes such idiots think twice the next time they get a bit lairy and for the benefit of everyone.

I also doubt that any actual law has been broken, the link between the act of burning an effigy and actual harm is tenuous and difficult to prove.  However, if through arresting them the police then find other crimes then I sure hope they prosecute to the full extent possible.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #21 on: 08 November 2018, 11:59:42 »

If somebody is offended by something on the internet that obviously doesn't concern them they should be made to fill out this report  ::)

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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #22 on: 08 November 2018, 13:01:17 »

Yet another unspeakable outrage which makes my blood boil. What type of inhuman coward does something like this ?
I could happily hang the bastids.  >:( :'(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46120021
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #23 on: 08 November 2018, 17:00:12 »

Me too, but if, and itís a big if they get caught, I bet it will be a slap on the wrist I would gleefully kick the crap out of anybody capable of doing such a cowardly inhuman thing to a poor old person.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #24 on: 08 November 2018, 17:38:28 »

I think quite a few of us may have laughed at ,or told a joke that was not PC or in quite bad taste , I know i have .
Any joke has to pick on someone.  When I was a kid, all jokes started "An Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman".  I also go to see Kevin B Wilson when he's over, but my non-English-descent* mates know I ain't racist, and my female mates know I ain't sexist.

Trouble is, we have bred a whole (useless) society of professional moaners.



*I think that is politically correct enough not to cause public offense.  What I call my friends privately, to their face when arsing around telling jokes, is between me and my mates.  There, hope that settles the 'flakes, and the waste of oxygen that Opti has on his profile.
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #25 on: 08 November 2018, 17:42:30 »

Having just seen the news about the latest Grenfell outrage...

...the incident was in extremely poor taste, but arresting 5 people is a bit extreme, isn't it?

Yep.....poor taste but not a crime (unless the cardboard model is soaked in petrol and pushed a through somebody's letterbox) ::)
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #26 on: 08 November 2018, 17:46:04 »

Having just seen the news about the latest Grenfell outrage...

...the incident was in extremely poor taste, but arresting 5 people is a bit extreme, isn't it?

Yep.....poor taste but not a crime (unless the cardboard model is soaked in petrol and pushed a through somebody's letterbox) ::)
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #27 on: 08 November 2018, 17:46:42 »

I think quite a few of us may have laughed at ,or told a joke that was not PC or in quite bad taste , I know i have .
Any joke has to pick on someone.  When I was a kid, all jokes started "An Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman".  I also go to see Kevin B Wilson when he's over, but my non-English-descent* mates know I ain't racist, and my female mates know I ain't sexist.

Trouble is, we have bred a whole (useless) society of professional moaners.



*I think that is politically correct enough not to cause public offense.  What I call my friends privately, to their face when arsing around telling jokes, is between me and my mates.  There, hope that settles the 'flakes, and the waste of oxygen that Opti has on his profile.



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Re: The latest outrage
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Re: The latest outrage
« Reply #29 on: 08 November 2018, 18:22:59 »

Yet another unspeakable outrage which makes my blood boil. What type of inhuman coward does something like this ?
I could happily hang the bastids.  >:( :'(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46120021

Had the 'Grenfell 6' not handed themselves in, I bet the Met would have devoted more resources into tracking them down than the bastards that did this!  ::)  >:(

Apparently the Met have 900 officer's whose sole occupation is dealing with internet hate crime.  :-\
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