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Suspension Options
« on: 01 January 2019, 15:49:18 »

Following on from my tyre thread, which means 4 new tyres in a couple of months. Makes me think about suspension for the 3.2, recently had use of a 2014 E-Class AMG trim (but Diesel engine) - I did like the way it handled, had this for a month. Made me realise how boat like the 3.2 is now.

Sooo current setup is:

16 year old Elite front shocks and springs on the front.
Rear has Boge springs which still look in good shape, with standard GM shocks on the back. (non-SL)

I'm going to get SOS Automotive do it all, at this stage I know only what I want to do with the wishbones.

I bought a set of poly's for the front cheap when no one wanted them, so I could get them fitted to the lemforder wishbones. (new ball joints as well?)

But I'm not too sure on shocks/springs, the front end really is a bit boat like. I want to stiffen it up a bit, but not a crazy amount.

If I could, I'd go down to the Vauxhall Dealer and buy MV6 suspension, as this would be best for me.

Option 1)
 
Sachs/Boge shocks front rear and new Boge springs up front.

Option 2)

Eibach springs front and rear & B4 shocks front/rear?

Wondering if 2) would be too stiff for my liking.  :-\
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #1 on: 01 January 2019, 16:12:04 »

Looks good value?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-BILSTEIN-b4-Shock-Absorber-Front-Rear-Vauxhall-Omega-B-Saloon/232806932434?epid=1944217924&hash=item36345fdfd2:g:QZ0AAOSwMlRajrNM:rk:6:pf:0

How do Eibach compare to say Boge/KYB, how much stiffer?

Above link plus 4 new springs and some Polys would make a significant different, not as much as I thought either.
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #2 on: 01 January 2019, 16:19:15 »

I also forgot about the "discussions" of B4's top mount kits, at least for the rear. Some eBay searching suggests there is nothing in it for Sachs to B4's in terms of price.
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #3 on: 01 January 2019, 16:28:50 »

You need to ditch the SL springs at the back otherwise everything else is a waste...

Kilen HD springs with Sachs shocks would be my suggestion. Eibachs will drop the ride height 30 mm which may be a bit much.
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #4 on: 01 January 2019, 16:59:03 »

Rear springs are standard, nothing SL is fitted.

Will look at Kilen.
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #5 on: 01 January 2019, 20:32:25 »

Rear springs are standard, nothing SL is fitted.

Will look at Kilen.
With polys front and rear along with ATP kit, my Desmond estate drove like a new car ;)
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #6 on: 01 January 2019, 21:48:51 »

If only MV6 LSC springs were still available  :'(

One thing that I do wonder is that front spring part numbers between left and right vary, I assume this is because LHD vehicles need to a slightly higher spring on the drivers side due to weight distribution in the engine bay, therefore I assume that we are best to buy two springs with the same part number (ie two l/h or two r/h) springs for a RHD car were the weight distribution is more even?
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #7 on: 02 January 2019, 00:06:34 »

I would recommend plod springs & dampers for the front, but they are probably only marginally easier to find than MV6 versions.
Might be worth trying these people to see if they still have Bilsteins at this price ?
https://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=262866;car=vauxhallomega
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #8 on: 02 January 2019, 01:26:42 »

Bit pricey compared to eBay link above? £160 for full set.

Iíd go MV6 if I could....

What springs would you put with B4ís?
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #9 on: 02 January 2019, 08:45:21 »

Looking at the price of rear springs ,Kilen seem to be almost double the price of Sachs.?


Are they that much better or are the Sachs just std duty and the Kilen ..60037..heavy duty
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #10 on: 02 January 2019, 09:37:25 »

Iíve had Boge fitted to 3.2 since 2012, still in good condition. Canít see how Kilen could be worth double.

Also discovered a pair of brand new rear springs in garage, so means just need new front springs.

Would standard Sachs//Boge go well with B4 shocks?
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #11 on: 02 January 2019, 10:39:36 »

Have Bilsteins B4 and Lemforder springs on the front of mine ,with Sachs rear shocks and Boge Springs fitted for about the last 18 months.

Handles really nicely and gives a comfy stable ride.Have noticed though with full car and boot rear end tends to sit quite low ,hence why I was curious about HD rear springs as that is what Kilen 60037 claim to be .
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« Reply #12 on: 02 January 2019, 11:04:02 »

Have Bilsteins B4 and Lemforder springs on the front of mine ,with Sachs rear shocks and Boge Springs fitted for about the last 18 months.

Handles really nicely and gives a comfy stable ride.Have noticed though with full car and boot rear end tends to sit quite low ,hence why I was curious about HD rear springs as that is what Kilen 60037 claim to be .

Interesting feedback, thanks!

Out of interest, why B4 on the front and Sachs for the rear?
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #13 on: 02 January 2019, 12:13:09 »

Bought B4,s for both front and back but found the back far too harsh and gave rear end almost a kangaroo effect.

Only had them fitted for around 200miles and took them off and replaced them with Sachs.Found them so much better and after getting the VX top fitting kit from Nitro they have been on ever since.B,4s are collecting dust in their boxes in the shed and wouldn't fit them again.

Got a good deal from Jason at AGP for the fronts so hence why the combination.

Have been considering having a change of rear springs though to a more HD ,hence why I was curious about the merits of Kilen 60037,s against std or Boge/Sachs as neither of them are listed as HD but Kilens are 
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Re: Suspension Options
« Reply #14 on: 02 January 2019, 12:35:52 »

Thanks again  :y

Springs also sourced from AGP? Thinking more Sachs all around now.
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