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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #45 on: 16 May 2019, 22:05:02 »

And a video just to put your mind at ease...

Fast forward to about 26 seconds if it helps...

Now tell me how satisfied you are with your test ;)
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #46 on: 17 May 2019, 04:36:15 »

Im still very satisfied with my test and also with my isofix installation. As I have mentioned.

Do you think anyone, with or without isofix, would have survived in that Omega crashing 200 kmh basicly to wall?

Do you already understand is there difference between static load and dynamic load test with the same maximum loads (static and peak load are same)?

Have you inspected how that isofix anchor is fixed to sheet metal and also between back seat and sheet metal and noticed how well it is fixed?

This is pointless discussion if you dont understand the basics in this matter.

Sure I can make another test by pulling that anchor installed in car with load of 800 kg as it is tested (static load test), but then I need spare car for that. Anyone want to donate one?

And I do know they are my kids, dont need to mention it on every post  :P
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #47 on: 17 May 2019, 08:44:41 »

Whilst that might be a fairly brutal test, it is pretty much how your car will behave if you stuffed it into the back of a pile up on a motorway :-X

My repetition is to remind you that they are your flesh and blood, not luggage. But then you know that. and whilst I might not entirely grasp the maths involved, I have an uneasy feeling that neither do you.

I maintain that whilst the appeal of what you are trying to achieve is understandable, the practical application is not and I hope you come to your senses before it's too late.
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #48 on: 17 May 2019, 09:39:44 »

Ok, so if you don't understand it, then I wont either.  :y

This is pretty much like changing brake pads or doing other safety related maintenance to your car. If you are not expert (I mean like educated car mechanic specialist), then you should not do it. Or would you do it anyway? I bet you are not calling your insurer to be sure can you change your brake pads or wheels by yourself, what if brakes fail or wheel drop of at high speeds..

Common sense is usually what it takes, it is same here. Little engineering skills will also help.
When you install that isofix anchor in, you can inspect that installation and think it through and then decide is it safe for use or not. That is what I did here and I decided that it is safe for use.

So I'm very much in my senses from the beginning.
I'm happy to receive advises and tips, but I don't need any guesses with no or very little knowledge behind them (like why I should do dynamic load test instead of static load test, as I know the result is the same and also I know how it is tested by authorities = by static test). I understand it is sometimes hard to get all the info and facts out from the pictures provided, maybe this might be also a problem here.

No offence.
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #49 on: 17 May 2019, 10:16:08 »

That you don't see the need to inform your insurance company suggests that deep down you know that they would probably have something to say on the subject.

I can't believe that I am the only person here who thinks that it's a bad idea, regardless of the thought behind it :-\
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #50 on: 17 May 2019, 11:10:06 »

Well of course insurance company cannot give approval for isofix anchors fitted to car that does not have them from factory.
They don't even give approval for seat belt installation for old car where they are not fitted from factory (or, they cannot stop you putting them but insurance may not be valid for those).

We can end this discussion to conclusion that if you do not have made certified tests for any installation or repair you have made to your car AND also have approval for that from your insurance company, you should not do it. I see no point going through these bizarre arguments that have nothing to do with real world.
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #51 on: 17 May 2019, 11:11:28 »

<looks at calendar>

Is it time to start talking about winter tyres again yet? ;)
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #52 on: 17 May 2019, 11:15:18 »

<looks at calendar>

Is it time to start talking about winter tyres again yet? ;)

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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #53 on: 17 May 2019, 11:51:43 »

<looks at calendar>

Is it time to start talking about winter tyres again yet? ;)
I'll put some trays of water in the freezer (for testing tyre purposes) :y
it could be winter 2020 before we find and test some black round ones though  :P
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #54 on: 17 May 2019, 13:27:00 »

<looks at calendar>

Is it time to start talking about winter tyres again yet? ;)

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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #55 on: 17 May 2019, 13:43:22 »

<looks at calendar>

Is it time to start talking about winter tyres again yet? ;)


Even grumpy cat has succumbed to the tedium now. :(

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/17/grumpy-cat-dies-at-the-age-of-seven-after-falling-ill-9585649/
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #56 on: 17 May 2019, 13:56:18 »

Poor grumpy cat - grumpy no more!

I wonder if it really did net the owners ~$100m, or if that's just Internet sensationalism .. I mean, nobody is paying them for each meme impression..

* aaronjb awaits the lawsuit for posting the image above ;D
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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #57 on: 20 May 2019, 10:18:57 »

I used to ride in seats like this when I was a kid. Apparently I survived.

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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #58 on: 20 May 2019, 11:11:58 »

I used to ride in seats like this when I was a kid. Apparently I survived.



Better than this  ;D

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Re: Isofix anchors to facelift estate
« Reply #59 on: 20 May 2019, 12:24:12 »

Oh, I had a proper child seat when I was a lad, but it was bolted to a Triumph Herald, so might as well have been cardboard in all likelihood. ;D
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