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Author Topic: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years  (Read 1912 times)

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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #75 on: 07 July 2019, 18:33:04 »

Hi, I've found a plug in the relay box that isn't plugged into anything and another one that comes from under the air filter that isn't plugged in.

Can some teach me how to post pictures please too. I think if I could send some pictures it will be a lot easier for people yo know what I mean.

Thanks

I couldn't find anywhere the plug went in the relay box everything seems to have wires already in there.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #76 on: 07 July 2019, 19:03:01 »

Hi, I've found a plug in the relay box that isn't plugged into anything and another one that comes from under the air filter that isn't plugged in.

Can some teach me how to post pictures please too. I think if I could send some pictures it will be a lot easier for people yo know what I mean.

Thanks

there is a guide to putting photo's on OOF  :y

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=53182.0

I couldn't find anywhere the plug went in the relay box everything seems to have wires already in there.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #78 on: 07 July 2019, 20:26:45 »

Nothing looked wrong with the ecu visually is there anyway i can test it without having to buy all new parts?
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #79 on: 07 July 2019, 20:28:08 »

Do the plugs fit each other?
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #80 on: 07 July 2019, 20:32:09 »

Do the plugs fit each other?

All the parts in the car are the factory fitted ones so yeah they fit. Just having issues getting the car running and someone suggested that it could be the immobiliser ecu.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #81 on: 07 July 2019, 21:06:47 »

and the key definitely has this chip in

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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #82 on: 07 July 2019, 21:10:08 »

Do the plugs fit each other?

All the parts in the car are the factory fitted ones so yeah they fit. Just having issues getting the car running and someone suggested that it could be the immobiliser ecu.
That isn't what I asked. You said you had two unconnected plugs. Do these plugs match each other?
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #83 on: 07 July 2019, 21:12:09 »

Do the plugs fit each other?

All the parts in the car are the factory fitted ones so yeah they fit. Just having issues getting the car running and someone suggested that it could be the immobiliser ecu.
That isn't what I asked. You said you had two unconnected plugs. Do these plugs match each other?

The key has the chip and the plugs are on opposite sides of the car so I'm don't think they're related to eachother

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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #84 on: 07 July 2019, 21:25:53 »

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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #85 on: 07 July 2019, 21:31:15 »

I have to admit i was wrong earlier. I saw you had an ir remote and was shure none of those had chips. But i see you have that. I have a 94 and an early 95 Omega and neither of those have the chip or the black box under the ignition barrel.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #86 on: 07 July 2019, 23:01:50 »

The photo shows the same arrangement as on my old '96 Omega. Same black box under the ignition. It has a collar on top that acts as a housing/pickup for the ignition barrel. Did you try unplugging the connector and cleaning the contacts with some pure isopropanal (isopropyl alcohol)?

It also seems that there is a fault with Omegas whereby "The infrared remote control does not function at times, even after replacement of the batteries, making deactivation of the immobiliser impossible.". The solution is to program a newer unaffected remote to the car. This requires a TECH interface.

Vehicles affected have a VIN number between 'W0Lnnnnnn R1 000001' and 'WOLnnnnnn S1 072158'. R or S are the 10th characters of the VIN and represent the model year spec the car was built to. R=1994 and S=1995. T=1996 and would be unaffected. Does your car fall within the affected range? Although it's hard to imagine the car got to this age without the problem coming to light.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #87 on: 07 July 2019, 23:40:58 »

The photo shows the same arrangement as on my old '96 Omega. Same black box under the ignition. It has a collar on top that acts as a housing/pickup for the ignition barrel. Did you try unplugging the connector and cleaning the contacts with some pure isopropanal (isopropyl alcohol)?

It also seems that there is a fault with Omegas whereby "The infrared remote control does not function at times, even after replacement of the batteries, making deactivation of the immobiliser impossible.". The solution is to program a newer unaffected remote to the car. This requires a TECH interface.

Vehicles affected have a VIN number between 'W0Lnnnnnn R1 000001' and 'WOLnnnnnn S1 072158'. R or S are the 10th characters of the VIN and represent the model year spec the car was built to. R=1994 and S=1995. T=1996 and would be unaffected. Does your car fall within the affected range? Although it's hard to imagine the car got to this age without the problem coming to light.

Mine is S1233779 so that is outside of the range if i'm not mistaken?
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #88 on: 08 July 2019, 18:41:01 »

I've just cleaned the pins for the immobiliser ecu and still nothing. I tried unplugging it and when i do that the EML flashes like it is supposed to but when i plug it back in it behaves as it should but still no spark or fuel is being pumped.
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Re: Car wont start after sitting for 3 years
« Reply #89 on: 09 July 2019, 15:22:32 »

If I'm not wrong - if the immobiliser isn't flashing, then the immobiliser is disarmed .. and the problem is elsewhere, no?
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