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Building a Wall
« on: 06 July 2019, 18:47:37 »

Parents are going to have a wall built around 3ft high X 12ft long, (double layered like the one in the pic,But Straight) at the front of there house,
A builder across the road told them that it will also need iron work in it too,Anyone got any idea what he is going on about.

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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #1 on: 06 July 2019, 18:58:32 »

Maybe referring to iron rods ( rebar ) in the foundations . This helps to stop cracks in the actual wall if there is movement in the foundations.  As always the key thing is the prep.

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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #2 on: 06 July 2019, 21:36:42 »

No, unless the ground is like jelly you wonít need nothing in the founds,  nice to see that wall topped of with engineering bricks (Staffordshire blues) excellent brick.
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #3 on: 06 July 2019, 21:54:57 »

I don't really know  ???
likely some  reinforcement in the foundation (can't dig up the public footpath to put a wide one in )
every foundation is different depending on the ground and what you build  ;)
"iron work" to hang gates  :-\
I doubt it will be EML between bricks  :-\
maybe a stainless starter kit if butting up to existing walls  :-\

Ask him , any good builder should explain a job in depth and in plain English ,so the client knows what they are paying for  :y
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #4 on: 06 July 2019, 22:07:23 »

I don't really know  ???
likely some  reinforcement in the foundation (can't dig up the public footpath to put a wide one in )
every foundation is different depending on the ground and what you build  ;)
"iron work" to hang gates  :-\
I doubt it will be EML between bricks  :-\
maybe a stainless starter kit if butting up to existing walls  :-\

Ask him , any good builder should explain a job in depth and in plain English ,so the client knows what they are paying for  :y
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2019, 22:07:44 »

I don't really know  ???
likely some  reinforcement in the foundation (can't dig up the public footpath to put a wide one in )
every foundation is different depending on the ground and what you build  ;)
"iron work" to hang gates  :-\
I doubt it will be EML between bricks  :-\
maybe a stainless starter kit if butting up to existing walls  :-\

Ask him , any good builder should explain a job in depth and in plain English ,so the client knows what they are paying for  :y
That last paragraph applies to anything you are paying for ;)
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2019, 11:05:58 »

I'd assume he means upright iron rods inserted at intervals, usually set inside the piers, to stop the wall falling over if it cracks/gets hit etc. If set inside a pier, the whole pier would be filled with cement.
They are banged in vertically and concreted in the wall footing. The pier or double skin wall is then built around the iron uprights. More relevant in this case as it meets the highway/neighbouring boundary and we don't want it falling over and hurting anybody do we.  :)
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2019, 11:30:43 »

I'd assume he means upright iron rods inserted at intervals, usually set inside the piers, to stop the wall falling over if it cracks/gets hit etc. If set inside a pier, the whole pier would be filled with cement.
They are banged in vertically and concreted in the wall footing. The pier or double skin wall is then built around the iron uprights. More relevant in this case as it meets the highway/neighbouring boundary and we don't want it falling over and hurting anybody do we.  :)
Quite plausible
BUT  :D If your banging in rods at the front of a house , you need to be pretty sure your missing the gas, electric, sewer and water  :o
As for reinforcing it to stop it being damaged by a car hitting it , the wall will be damaged and need rebuilding anyway  :(
so if your worried , fit an armco "wall"  :D ;D
Any wall needs a good foundation ,suitable for ground conditions ,loading etc , many people re-build garden walls on weak, thin or existing foundations  that will fail again

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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2019, 11:50:28 »

I'd assume he means upright iron rods inserted at intervals, usually set inside the piers, to stop the wall falling over if it cracks/gets hit etc. If set inside a pier, the whole pier would be filled with cement.
They are banged in vertically and concreted in the wall footing. The pier or double skin wall is then built around the iron uprights. More relevant in this case as it meets the highway/neighbouring boundary and we don't want it falling over and hurting anybody do we.  :)
Quite plausible
BUT  :D If your banging in rods at the front of a house , you need to be pretty sure your missing the gas, electric, sewer and water  :o
As for reinforcing it to stop it being damaged by a car hitting it , the wall will be damaged and need rebuilding anyway  :(
so if your worried , fit an armco "wall"  :D ;D
Any wall needs a good foundation ,suitable for ground conditions ,loading etc , many people re-build garden walls on weak, thin or existing foundations  that will fail again

There is a wall close by in Ashford that, to my knowledge, has been fully demolished four times in recent years due to being hit by motor vehicles as it is on a bend, but on a road with a 30 mph speed limit! :o :o

Very sadly, nine years ago, the first time that I know it was demolished, a drunken driver killed two after ploughing into a group of 6 people, and got 10 years inside:
https://www.gravesendreporter.co.uk/news/drunk-jailed-for-10-years-for-killing-two-1-599895

 :'( :'( :'( >:(
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #9 on: 07 July 2019, 12:04:09 »

probably a good candidate for an Armco "wall" then  ::)


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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #10 on: 07 July 2019, 12:27:33 »

Obviously the rods don't stop a car knocking the wall down, they are intended to prevent the whole lot going over.  :y
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #11 on: 07 July 2019, 12:32:15 »

probably a good candidate for an Armco "wall" then  ::)

Yep, and still they are rebuilding it in brick, with no metal barriers!! ::) ::) ;)
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #12 on: 07 July 2019, 14:09:46 »

Christ, itís only a baby wall 3.0í  high and 12í long  it doesnít need anything other than good founds as Dai said.
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #13 on: 07 July 2019, 14:16:24 »

Donald does a fine line in walls... Might be a bit high for planning purposes  :-\
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Re: Building a Wall
« Reply #14 on: 07 July 2019, 14:17:27 »

Ha ha, cost a bit too  ;D
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