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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #45 on: 09 July 2019, 14:49:54 »

It's an Ambassador's job to report back candidly on the situation in the country that he/she is stationed in.  ::)

Why he felt compelled to state the bleeding obvious in writing is another matter!   ;)
I'm definitely not saying that he's at fault. What I'm saying is that, after some treasonous bastard leaked the contents of his report, our government should have diplomatically tried to calm the situation, not pour oil on the fire.
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« Reply #46 on: 09 July 2019, 15:34:44 »

Litlejohn puts it nicely in his column today.One of the few things in the Mail that I read these days.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7226383/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-arrogant-civil-servants-Whitehall-NOT-know-whats-best-UK.html
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« Reply #47 on: 09 July 2019, 16:04:14 »

Is this bloke and his supporters so self unaware that he/ they cant see how ludicrous it is currently, for a representative of  the UK to be calling the leadership of another country incompetent, inept and shambolic ? ::) ??? :o ;D
Our political class have made this country an international laughing stock over the last three years.  >:(

Yep, and Trump is now excluding our guy from business meetings with other ambassadors, with the tweets from the President becoming more scathing by the minute!!

Great!! Now we have fallen out with the USA!!  Bloody fools!! >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #48 on: 09 July 2019, 16:35:01 »

Which presumably was the intention of whoever leaked.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #49 on: 09 July 2019, 17:06:50 »

Which presumably was the intention of whoever leaked.

Oh yes!! ;)

That is why a 'hostile' state could easily be behind this, just as much of course as a very disgruntled individual within the government could be.

Will we ever know?  Doubt it? ::) ::)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #50 on: 09 July 2019, 17:09:00 »

Either an external hostile state, or someone from the internal hostile state.  :)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #51 on: 09 July 2019, 17:10:50 »

Either an external hostile state, or someone from the internal hostile state. :)

That, I believe certainly does exist! :(

Mind you, history has taught us that there are traitors always within, singerly or as a group! >:(
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« Reply #52 on: 09 July 2019, 17:40:46 »

See Reply #1  :)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #53 on: 10 July 2019, 12:11:48 »

Whatever the rights and wrongs of it are, the ambassador will have to be replaced. The person who leaked it should spend time behind bars, but I doubt they will. No such thing as personal responsibility these days.


Why should the ambassador be replaced ???  Evaluating the foreign government and its personnel is a large part of his job! As is reporting back, as there's no point in doing that work otherwise.


The leaker is a different matter, but leaking is a politicians tool.

Simple. The leak has made his position untenable. He cant have a any kind of relationship with the Trump administration now.
May has announced this morning that she has full faith in him. That means he will be within 48 hours. by the end of the month.  ;D
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #54 on: 10 July 2019, 13:11:19 »

Our Ambassador in Washington has now resigned.

According to those who know, Boris failing to give him his support in that rubbish "debate" last night was the final thing that made him believe it was best he resigned.

Well done Boris  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Boris has already started to do damage >:( >:( >:(

Although, I must be fair and recognise the damage had been done and the Ambassador could really do nothing else.  But guffing Boris, an  ex-Foreign Secretary............really!!! :o :o :o
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« Reply #55 on: 10 July 2019, 13:15:36 »

His position was untenable anyway and he should have resigned before this row escalated.  ;)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #56 on: 10 July 2019, 13:19:03 »

His position was untenable anyway and he should have resigned before this row escalated.  ;)

But for a member "our side" to fail to support him, and seen to do so, with Trump getting his way is not the way to go if you are a loyal Brit!

Even Corbyn has stood up in the House to express "his regret" that Kim has resigned  ;)

So much for Boris standing up for Britain! ::) ::)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #57 on: 10 July 2019, 13:51:02 »

It all bodes well.

Now we have Sir John Major threatening legal action against Boris if he doesn't toe the line.
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #58 on: 10 July 2019, 14:17:30 »

It's not his views that created the problem. It is the fact that his 'private obsevations' were leaked that has caused the shit to hit the fan.

The Americans will have their own information on the 'British administration'.......probably suggesting  Theresa May is a lanky incompetent and dried up old crone who needs a good rogering.

Again, not a problem if such information is kept private. :)
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Re: Diplomacy
« Reply #59 on: 10 July 2019, 14:24:16 »

Bojo's response last night to this 'diplomatic spat' seems to suggest he would be happy for Trump to choose the next ambassador....... ::) ::) ::)

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