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[Lizzie Zoom]

When I started, we were still fixing Candlesticks (early phones)

Virgin grew out of the smaller cable companies like NTL and Telewest.  But their coverage is minimal.  So for the vast, vast, vast majority of us, if we want a phone line, the "GPO" have to come and fit it. Unless you live in Hull.

Why would you want to do that?

Here we go again. Kingston upon Hull is a fine city, UK capital of culture don't you know? 

So was Liverpool 

No. Liverpool was European capital of culture. 

It is a great all round City!

European capital of culture, European football champions......say no more 

With no less than TWO* great teams within sight of each other!!

* Yes, I know, the city is split on that one and will only accept either The Reds or The Blues!!  "Come on you Reds!!"   

[Eboy.com]

My brain in very much in gear thanks. To think through anything you still need the ACTUAL facts that somebody like TB knows about his industry.  I am not going to assume anything, as I think you do so often!

My job is to make sure "the Internet works". Not the local loop - That's Openreach's (or Virgin is available in your area (unlikely) or KCOM (formally Kingston Communications) if you live in Hull.

Note, other than currently being wholly owned by BT Group, Openreach is nothing to do with BT - they are 2 entirely separate entities who are legally not allowed to talk to each other.

[Doctor Gollum]

My brain in very much in gear thanks. To think through anything you still need the ACTUAL facts that somebody like TB knows about his industry.  I am not going to assume anything, as I think you do so often!

My job is to make sure "the Internet works". Not the local loop - That's Openreach's (or Virgin is available in your area (unlikely) or KCOM (formally Kingston Communications) if you live in Hull.

Note, other than currently being wholly owned by BT Group, Openreach is nothing to do with BT - they are 2 entirely separate entities who are legally not allowed to talk to each other.

Like any good marriage...