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New key + remote
« on: 01 August 2019, 09:34:16 »

Hi guys, is there any way to obtain new key and remote for omega?
I had an appointment with locksmith today, but he couldn't connect to Omega's computer.
My opinion on this is it could be because it's FL model with older V6 using older version of management program on new body style with remote boot opening... :-X
So after that I went to Opel dealer and after some search they told me the key or remote can not be bought anymore.
Any ideas? My remote is FUBAR , not only switches or battery holder...it's done. And it's the only key and remote I have.
My fear is that one day door lock could stop working and then I won't  be able to get into car.
Thanks in advance, Stan
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #1 on: 01 August 2019, 14:51:41 »

AIUI the drivers door and the boot can always be opened with the physical key. Just turn the key past the resistance. However you might trigger the alarm. Best to lock the driver's door knob from inside via the rear door. Then press down the knob and close the rear door. That gets the doors and boot locked with the alarm disabled.

Does your key have a separate 2 button remote to the key? Or does it have a key with buttons on it?
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #2 on: 01 August 2019, 15:29:33 »

AIUI the drivers door and the boot can always be opened with the physical key. Just turn the key past the resistance. However you might trigger the alarm. Best to lock the driver's door knob from inside via the rear door. Then press down the knob and close the rear door. That gets the doors and boot locked with the alarm disabled.

Does your key have a separate 2 button remote to the key? Or does it have a key with buttons on it?
Facelift saloons don't have a lock barrel on the boot lid ;)
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #3 on: 01 August 2019, 16:30:23 »

Three button remote, FL saloon. So no way get a new key/remote anymore?
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #4 on: 01 August 2019, 17:04:55 »

What exactly is wrong with your remote? Is it simply a question of resoldering? For example...

If it's that the buttons are worn out, then they are available from Ebay etc... Also possible to use the flip key from Astra H/ Vectra C etc :y
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #5 on: 01 August 2019, 17:20:06 »

I replaced buttons five years ago and it was working fine until I replaced battery a year and a half  ago...Key fob just died - no response whatsoever. And it' s the only keyfob I have. If somehow door lock breakes I can't even get into a car
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« Reply #6 on: 01 August 2019, 17:40:09 »

I replaced buttons five years ago and it was working fine until I replaced battery a year and a half  ago...Key fob just died - no response whatsoever. And it' s the only keyfob I have. If somehow door lock breakes I can't even get into a car
Any of my last suggestions will work :y
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #7 on: 01 August 2019, 17:53:55 »

I had an appointment with locksmith today, but he couldn't connect to Omega's computer.
There is no difference (from programming point of view) between 1996-2003 Omegas, apart from alarm equipped cars the remote fob done through the ATWS (Alarm ECU), and non alarmed cars is done through the Central Locking ECU.  The fob has to match the alarm/no alarm type.

The immobiliser is the same, and programmed the same, from 96-03.


Early Omegas (94/95) had the pesky IR locking, and that is a completely different setup.
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #8 on: 01 August 2019, 18:01:47 »

Thanks for info, but how come the guy was siting in my car for an hour, changing three of his fancy programming machines and couldn't figure out how to make a remote to match to a car? It's not like it's a "friend who knows a friend told me he knows a guy who can fix it", they should be able to make it.
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #9 on: 01 August 2019, 18:09:14 »

Thanks for info, but how come the guy was siting in my car for an hour, changing three of his fancy programming machines and couldn't figure out how to make a remote to match to a car? It's not like it's a "friend who knows a friend told me he knows a guy who can fix it", they should be able to make it.
That I cant answer.

Was he attempting the immobiliser or the remote fob?  Both need doing.  I can accept a wiring fault to one ECU, but not both.
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #10 on: 01 August 2019, 18:14:04 »

Thanks for info, but how come the guy was siting in my car for an hour, changing three of his fancy programming machines and couldn't figure out how to make a remote to match to a car? It's not like it's a "friend who knows a friend told me he knows a guy who can fix it", they should be able to make it.
For the time and effort, you could probably get someone who knows what they're doing over to Budapest for the afternoon.

There's a flight from Gatwick at 10.15 which lands at 13.45, with a return at 19.25... I would wager that you could have two ready cut keys programmed and working by 14.30, leaving time for a late lunch, couple of beers and some sight seeing  ::)
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #11 on: 01 August 2019, 19:06:38 »

Budapest? That's in Hungary.
Ljubljana surely?

Anyway the newer type keys with an uncut blade, blank immobiliser chip and remote seem to easily available. The chip and remote need to be programmed to the car and that needs a Tech 2 or equivalent system and the passcode for the car. Multiple models of Opel cars have similar systems so your Omega is hardly a rarity. It sounds like you should look for ANOther locksmith who can handle an Opel. Or buy Doc Gollum a ticket.
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #12 on: 01 August 2019, 19:12:57 »

 :-[

It is... Which makes it more expensive as it will mean an over night...

Having said that, Venice isn't that far away, so plenty of scope for a cheap day trip :y
In my limited defence whenever I see Danzigfan, I always think of Hungary... God alone knows why :D
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #13 on: 01 August 2019, 19:50:39 »

Being a stingy myself....Hungary is much better ;D ;D ;D
Well I'll try to find someone who knows what he's doing....thanks :y
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Re: New key + remote
« Reply #14 on: 02 August 2019, 16:10:40 »

I've completely lost track of what this issue is  ;D but I have an ecu kit from a 96 V6 Manual with 2 keys n separate remotes if it's any use
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