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Interesting programme
« on: 11 August 2019, 08:28:09 »

On Channel5 last night the first of a series of four programmes titled WW2 The True Cost Of War.It dealt with the many aspects leading up to WW2-from the treaty of Versailles onwards,the political machinations of the time including the spurious excuses used by Japan for their invasion of Manchuria and later of China[with Chang Kai Sheks decision to use the Yellow River to flood a huge area of China to stop the Japanese advances and killing hundreds of thousands of Chinese  people in the process.The forming of alliances -both political as well as military-and how the various countries were or were not prepared for war.In as much as a Tv programme can cover such events I thought it a very well done and presented programme,looking forward to the rest of the series.
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #1 on: 11 August 2019, 11:13:32 »

Thanks for the heads up!

There has been a rash of “memes” about the start of the war being posted around. A brilliant one of hitler on a computer game “ Mein Kraft” ?
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #2 on: 17 August 2019, 19:20:33 »

I have now watched two episodes of this series, WWII In Numbers, and it is very good.

It recycles many of the already published facts, but presents them in a new, very striking, way that certainly brings the mind boggling facts to life! 8) 8)

This series should also be viewed coupled with the facts given in the Yesterday Channels War Factories available on UKTV catch up.  The figures given in that series of programmes tie in very nicely with those in the WWII In Numbers Baza 8) 8) :y
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #3 on: 17 August 2019, 19:31:54 »

They probably got the "facts" off the same GOOGLE search Lizzie  ;D
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #4 on: 17 August 2019, 20:36:12 »

They probably got the "facts" off the same GOOGLE search Lizzie  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Seriously though some very respected, well known highly qualified historians are involved in these programmes, unlike with some :D ;)
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #5 on: 17 August 2019, 23:57:36 »

Good find Baza. Thanks, found tonights very interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 15:25:46 »

It has never failed to amaze me how British industry, after a very low start, was kicked into a massive output of the weapons needed to fight WW2 after Dunkirk.

Under Lord Beaverbrook the production of especially the Spitfire, then other aircraft, zoomed to not only replace all the aircraft lost during The Battle of Britain, but then gave the RAF everything they materially needed, although at first a shortage of pilots to fly them was THE major issue.

The Nazis had been out producing everyone in not just planes, but tanks and guns as well.  However, with the efforts of hundreds of British factories, and especially at the new, purpose built aircraft plant of Castle Bromwich, run by Vickers-Armstrong, the production lines quickly out produced those of Germany. Planes, tanks, guns, lorries all rolled off en mass of British production lines.

In fact the Luftwaffe never recovered from the losses of fighters and bombers, along with experienced pilots, sustained during The B of B, plus also transport aircraft (especially the J52's with experienced pilots) over Crete, which greatly weakened the Sixth Army's efforts during the latter half of the Russian, BARBAROSSA  campaign.  The German plants produced less and less, weakened by experienced engineers being called up to fight in the Soviet Union, Allied bombing, and a lack of materials, like metal, coal to produce that metal, and oil.  Money also ran out for the Nazis.

So "The Numbers" certainly gave the British the time to stave off the Nazis, then along came America to give a completely new boost to production figures.  The huge numbers defeated the Nazis. It is just a shame to think that today the British industries could never respond so gallantly to the threat of an immediate major war, if they were even given the time to do so! :'( :'( :(
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 15:37:25 »

Pity that can do mindset doesn't apply to most of todays snowflake doomsayers. What will they do if they can't get avocados till Friday or no paracetamol till Wednesday.

Still we are saddled with what we have got.
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 15:46:47 »

Pity that can do mindset doesn't apply to most of todays snowflake doomsayers. What will they do if they can't get avocados till Friday or no paracetamol till Wednesday.

Still we are saddled with what we have got.

Perhaps a British "War Spirit" will return, and our ingenuity and product development (another thing the German's let themselves down on) will show Johnny Foreigner exactly what we are still made of and can do! ::) ::) :D :D :D ;)
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 17:44:02 »

Pity that can do mindset doesn't apply to most of todays snowflake doomsayers. What will they do if they can't get avocados till Friday or no paracetamol till Wednesday.

Still we are saddled with what we have got.
No avocados ! you've got to be f*****g kidding me , what a nightmare  ;)
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Re: Interesting programme
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 21:16:53 »

Germany produced some excellent tanks Panther,Tiger,Royal Tiger which when armed with the famed and feared "88" were a force to be reckoned with.However they were hugely over engineered and complicated and therefore slow to produce,where the allies had the much faster to produce Sherman[aka Ronson] or more especially the Russian T-34.When the aircraft industry came up with an aircraft that could[given sufficient numbers]have been a game changer Hitler in his meddling fashion declared the Me 262 to be a bomber!!! But even so that was in all probability too late to avoid the inevitable defeat.I'm just glad they came up short in the race for nukes because Hitler would have had absolutely no qualms about using them anywhere.
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