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Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« on: 12 August 2019, 19:13:26 »

I have just bought a 2008 1.6 Astra manual, 108000 miles on the clock and no history of a cam belt change. In April I bought a kit from ECP for 44, but now they want 139.99. Any tips?
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #1 on: 12 August 2019, 19:45:01 »

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82.50 proper gates kit including water pump

spec gates autocat clicky to check your exact model

I thought the cheap 44 kit you ordered was incorrect and you had to buy another  :-\

I will see if i can find a pic of where to put the locking tools for you this time  ::)
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #2 on: 12 August 2019, 20:06:12 »

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82.50 proper gates kit including water pump

spec gates autocat clicky to check your exact model

I thought the cheap 44 kit you ordered was incorrect and you had to buy another  :-\

I will see if i can find a pic of where to put the locking tools for you this time  ::)
Don't you dare! Poor old Terry. ;D
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #3 on: 12 August 2019, 20:35:39 »

Thanks Dave. I wasn't planning to change the water pump. I have Astras showing 174K and 155K on their original water pumps running fine, and if the pump fails it's not serious. Cambelt failure is disastrous.
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #4 on: 12 August 2019, 20:41:15 »

Thanks Dave. I wasn't planning to change the water pump. I have Astras showing 174K and 155K on their original water pumps running fine, and if the pump fails it's not serious. Cambelt failure is disastrous.

If the pump is cambelt driven it needs changing with the belt kit :y
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #5 on: 12 August 2019, 20:42:49 »

Thanks Dave. I wasn't planning to change the water pump. I have Astras showing 174K and 155K on their original water pumps running fine, and if the pump fails it's not serious. Cambelt failure is disastrous.

The point of changing a water pump on any car/engine that drives the water pump with its cam belt is that if the pump fails & the bearing on the shaft fails sufficiently that the belt slips ...... bye-bye engine
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #6 on: 12 August 2019, 20:44:13 »



I will see if i can find a pic of where to put the locking tools for you this time  ::)
Don't you dare! Poor old Terry. ;D
:D ;D Not those photos  ;D :D


the crankshaft locking bracket bolts into the gap between sump and block near the front engine mount (locking the crank at TDC no 1 ,allowing easy bolt removal)


red chocks go between cam sprockets locking them



harmonic damper /crankshaft pulley removed showing lower timing mark @ 6 o'clock

Thanks Dave. I wasn't planning to change the water pump. I have Astras showing 174K and 155K on their original water pumps running fine, and if the pump fails it's not serious. Cambelt failure is disastrous.

If the pump is cambelt driven it needs changing with the belt kit :y

It's not cambelt driven on these  :y

Thanks Dave. I wasn't planning to change the water pump. I have Astras showing 174K and 155K on their original water pumps running fine, and if the pump fails it's not serious. Cambelt failure is disastrous.

your choice  :D ;D
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #7 on: 12 August 2019, 20:55:52 »

the water pump on these astra H 1.6 is driven by the aux belt
BUT , i've had an original pump completely mullered at only 100K and leaking before
while all the stuff is out the way, the water pump is just 4 or 5 very easy to get at torx bolts
I replace the pump and belt and bearings all in one go , you don't have too
I also grease the bearings of the aux belt tensioner
may as well do it all while it's apart ,ready for another 10 years or 100k of service  :-X
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #8 on: 12 August 2019, 21:42:58 »

the water pump on these astra H 1.6 is driven by the aux belt
BUT , i've had an original pump completely mullered at only 100K and leaking before
while all the stuff is out the way, the water pump is just 4 or 5 very easy to get at torx bolts
I replace the pump and belt and bearings all in one go , you don't have too
I also grease the bearings of the aux belt tensioner
may as well do it all while it's apart ,ready for another 10 years or 100k of service  :-X


If Terry was to do that, we wouldn't get another thread entitled "astra keeps boiling up" or astra has shredded aux belt"
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #9 on: 12 August 2019, 21:47:06 »

the water pump on these astra H 1.6 is driven by the aux belt
BUT , i've had an original pump completely mullered at only 100K and leaking before
while all the stuff is out the way, the water pump is just 4 or 5 very easy to get at torx bolts
I replace the pump and belt and bearings all in one go , you don't have too
I also grease the bearings of the aux belt tensioner
may as well do it all while it's apart ,ready for another 10 years or 100k of service  :-X


If Terry was to do that, we wouldn't get another thread entitled "astra keeps boiling up" or astra has shredded aux belt"


Or the collection of wrong/fake/undelivered water pumps acquired through TB's Ebay account ;D
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #10 on: 12 August 2019, 21:54:40 »

the water pump on these astra H 1.6 is driven by the aux belt
BUT , i've had an original pump completely mullered at only 100K and leaking before
while all the stuff is out the way, the water pump is just 4 or 5 very easy to get at torx bolts
I replace the pump and belt and bearings all in one go , you don't have too
I also grease the bearings of the aux belt tensioner
may as well do it all while it's apart ,ready for another 10 years or 100k of service  :-X


If Terry was to do that, we wouldn't get another thread entitled "astra keeps boiling up" or astra has shredded aux belt"
Use the search facility  :y
these threads already exist  ;D
AA man said "waterpump"  :P

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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #11 on: 12 August 2019, 22:22:00 »


Thanks for the advice, Dave. That explains what the steel item on the left does. That still leaves the top and second down metal tools to find a use for.
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #12 on: 12 August 2019, 22:36:28 »

Top black bar lock the cams at the other end if you removed the cylinder head
silver L shape is flywheel holding tool
neither needed to swap belt
but the silver item on the left is very helpful  :y
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #13 on: 12 August 2019, 22:48:04 »

Top black bar lock the cams at the other end if you removed the cylinder head
silver L shape is flywheel holding tool
neither needed to swap belt
but the silver item on the left is very helpful  :y
Thank you.
Over the years changing cam belts on 4 and 6 cylinder Omegas has become routine, but I am learning all over again how to do it on Astras.

I have known auxiliary belt failures on Omegas, so these things do happen
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Re: Cam belt kit for a 2008 1.6 petrol manual Astra sought
« Reply #14 on: 13 August 2019, 13:14:39 »

Top black bar lock the cams at the other end if you removed the cylinder head
silver L shape is flywheel holding tool
neither needed to swap belt
but the silver item on the left is very helpful  :y
Thank you.
Over the years changing cam belts on 4 and 6 cylinder Omegas has become routine, but I am learning all over again how to do it on Astras.

I have known auxiliary belt failures on Omegas, so these things do happen


Exactly, so put a new auxiliary belt on, remove the aux-belt pully and re-pack the bearing, or buy a new pulley,  preventative maintenance.
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