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Door Puddle Light Problem
« on: 15 August 2019, 13:13:46 »

I have had a problem with the drivers door puddle light not coming on due to a faulty pillar switch which I am sorting out.

However, now all the puddle lights do not come on no matter what door is opened.  Now I have looked at the fuse list in the manual as I am sure I have blown a fuse. But, none is listed for the puddle lights.  All the interior courtesy lights are working, so that rules out the circuits coupled with fuses for them.  So, please, what fuse could it be? Any ideas? ??? ???

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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #1 on: 15 August 2019, 13:44:04 »

I have a funny feeling similar happened to mine when I was upgrading them to LED bulbs.
If my memory ..which isnt great  :D..seems to recall if 1 bulb is out they are all out .Ideally put a meter across the 2 metal tabs in the lamp holder to check you are getting power as remember they are on a timer and if you have had any door open for any length of time they will be timed out.
Try shutting door/lock and unlock car and open door and see if they illuminate :y
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #2 on: 15 August 2019, 13:55:44 »

Just had a closer look at manual Lizzie and door puddle lights are on fuse #7 in compartment under steering wheel.
Worth having a look at that 1  :y
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #3 on: 15 August 2019, 14:10:33 »

Just had a closer look at manual Lizzie and door puddle lights are on fuse #7 in compartment under steering wheel.
Worth having a look at that 1  :y

Thanks amba for all your suggestions.  I will now look and check that out :-* 8) :y :y
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #4 on: 15 August 2019, 16:02:20 »

I have just checked the fuse and #7 is fine. :y

However amba, I pulled out the door bulb holder and found the thing has broken in two, so the bulb was too loose to make good contact, especially every time I slammed the door shut! ::) ::)

Now, if anyone can supply me with a new 2003 F/S door puddle light unit I would greatly appreciate it and of course make payment via Paypal??

As for the other lights not working; that is a bit of a mystery and your comment on that amba could be on the right track.  Now I do not think I am dreaming, but I m sure that when I opened the drivers door the other puddle lights came on.  Now they only do if I open each door in turn.

Am I finally cracking up? ::) ::) :P :P  Am I dreaming about that one? ??? ??? ;)
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #5 on: 15 August 2019, 17:08:18 »

I have just checked the fuse and #7 is fine. :y

However amba, I pulled out the door bulb holder and found the thing has broken in two, so the bulb was too loose to make good contact, especially every time I slammed the door shut! ::) ::)

Now, if anyone can supply me with a new 2003 F/S door puddle light unit I would greatly appreciate it and of course make payment via Paypal??

As for the other lights not working; that is a bit of a mystery and your comment on that amba could be on the right track.  Now I do not think I am dreaming, but I m sure that when I opened the drivers door the other puddle lights came on. Now they only do if I open each door in turn.

Am I finally cracking up? ::) ::) :P :P  Am I dreaming about that one? ??? ??? ;)

A much better system, Sell it to VX! ;D
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #6 on: 15 August 2019, 17:43:12 »

I have just checked the fuse and #7 is fine. :y

However amba, I pulled out the door bulb holder and found the thing has broken in two, so the bulb was too loose to make good contact, especially every time I slammed the door shut! ::) ::)

Now, if anyone can supply me with a new 2003 F/S door puddle light unit I would greatly appreciate it and of course make payment via Paypal??

As for the other lights not working; that is a bit of a mystery and your comment on that amba could be on the right track.  Now I do not think I am dreaming, but I m sure that when I opened the drivers door the other puddle lights came on. Now they only do if I open each door in turn.

Am I finally cracking up? ::) ::) :P :P  Am I dreaming about that one? ??? ??? ;)

A much better system, Sell it to VX! ;D

Yes, I know ::) ::)  That is what they are meant to do ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)

But, I am still sure all the puddle lights came on when I opened my drivers door ??? ???
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #7 on: 16 August 2019, 13:59:46 »

Thank God, I am not going mad! ::) ::) :D :D

I have repaired the puddle light unit and now it works fine, with ALL the puddle lights coming on when I open the drivers door 8) 8)

Amba you were right; drivers door puddle light bulb out, all out :D :D :y

However, I do still have a problem with the door switch unit, so now will be replacing that! :(
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #8 on: 16 August 2019, 20:29:00 »

Strange that,I've checked mine today-out of curiousity since seeing this thread-and while all my puddle jumper lights work they only do so on the door that is open!
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #9 on: 17 August 2019, 12:26:46 »

Strange that,I've checked mine today-out of curiousity since seeing this thread-and while all my puddle jumper lights work they only do so on the door that is open!


That is curious.  I am sure that with my past 3.0,s the puddle lights all came on when the drivers door was opened as well as they do on my 3.2 ;)
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #10 on: 17 August 2019, 22:12:42 »

You may well be right Lizzie.In the case of my car it could be that whoever installed the footwell lights below the dash did so by interrupting the circuit that makes all the puddle jumpers light on opening the drivers door.Or it could be that it's just yet another issue that the pile of crap I own has.
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #11 on: 18 August 2019, 00:23:59 »

You may well be right Lizzie.In the case of my car it could be that whoever installed the footwell lights below the dash did so by interrupting the circuit that makes all the puddle jumpers light on opening the drivers door.Or it could be that it's just yet another issue that the pile of crap I own has.
Early cars had them, face-lift didn't  ;)
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #12 on: 18 August 2019, 08:06:06 »

Give me some time will see what I've got, deffo got the rear map lights with loom and switches, not sure of puddle lights.
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #13 on: 18 August 2019, 11:27:16 »

Give me some time will see what I've got, deffo got the rear map lights with loom and switches, not sure of puddle lights.

Thanks biggriffin :y

I have put the two halves together as best as I could using a soldering iron and welding the hard plastic.  It has worked so far.

I have now ordered the door post switch from my VX dealer, which apparently is the last one in the UK (a familiar story now) although he said it appeared others were still in Germany. :D ;)
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2019, 14:23:59 »

All sorted now with a new door pillar light switch, just 7.67 from Vx, fitted and working fine 8) ;)
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #15 on: 25 August 2019, 17:45:01 »

You need to get some Essex bling style puddle lights.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: 26 August 2019, 11:19:16 »

You need to get some Essex bling style puddle lights.  :)



I like that Migv6! 8) 8) :y :y

Do they do one with the Supergirl symbol, you know, like Superman's one? ??? ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #17 on: 26 August 2019, 12:59:08 »

Possibly, if you search trough a couple of thousand ebay listings. :)
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« Reply #18 on: 26 August 2019, 13:19:13 »

Possibly, if you search trough a couple of thousand ebay listings. :)

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« Reply #19 on: 26 August 2019, 13:34:57 »

Smartarse.  :P ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 26 August 2019, 15:11:42 »

They look utter shite and god knows why anybody would fit them  :(
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« Reply #21 on: 26 August 2019, 18:34:03 »

I like them.  :P
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« Reply #22 on: 26 August 2019, 19:22:50 »

Typical French class  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: 26 August 2019, 20:38:17 »

Possibly, if you search trough a couple of thousand ebay listings. :)

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Well done Dave! :y :y


From China via EBay, and runs on batteries :o

After TB's experiences with that type of mix, perhaps I will stay with my plain, boring, white light puddle units ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #24 on: 26 August 2019, 21:02:00 »

Put some decent Led bulbs in them Lizzie...makes them very fit for purpose and not all Essex Bling ;D
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #25 on: 26 August 2019, 21:21:46 »

Put some decent Led bulbs in them Lizzie...makes them very fit for purpose and not all Essex Bling ;D


Put decent LED bulbs in the courtesy and map reading lights too. Then you can actually use them for reading! They work properly, rather than just giving a dim yellow glow like holding a jar of piss in front of a weak torch.


I replaced the number plate bulbs with LEDs too.


To do the whole car requires two sizes of festoon bulbs, and a handful of whatever the sidelights are. Change out of a tenner.
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« Reply #26 on: 26 August 2019, 21:29:52 »

If my car passes its imminent MOT, I would like to do that. Do you have any recommendations/links, please?

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« Reply #27 on: 26 August 2019, 21:39:30 »

If my car passes its imminent MOT, I would like to do that. Do you have any recommendations/links, please?

Ron.


I bought them off Ebay about nine years ago, so no. But you don't live in Brackley so buying a handful each of 36 and 44mm festoon bulbs plus some 501LEDs won't cause you any issues ;)
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« Reply #28 on: 26 August 2019, 21:47:08 »

Ah yes, I'm near to civilisation here!  8) :y

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« Reply #29 on: 26 August 2019, 21:50:19 »

I also found when I replaced my interior lights that you need a small resistor ..I think 1 micro farad ?? to make them full shut down otherwise you will end up with them never full shutting down.

Again like Nick I bought mine and the resistor from Egay some time ago ,but Im sure plenty are listed
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« Reply #30 on: 27 August 2019, 13:51:47 »

Put some decent Led bulbs in them Lizzie...makes them very fit for purpose and not all Essex Bling ;D


Put decent LED bulbs in the courtesy and map reading lights too. Then you can actually use them for reading! They work properly, rather than just giving a dim yellow glow like holding a jar of piss in front of a weak torch.


I replaced the number plate bulbs with LEDs too.


To do the whole car requires two sizes of festoon bulbs, and a handful of whatever the sidelights are. Change out of a tenner.


Now that is a good idea Nick! 8) 8) :y :y

I like that!

As you say the standard "reading lights" are not fit for purpose.  What Wattage should the replacement LED's be please? :o :o
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #31 on: 27 August 2019, 15:31:03 »

The LED wattages aren't relevant. Just be sure to buy the correct lengths and get cool white rather than warm white :y
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« Reply #32 on: 27 August 2019, 16:46:05 »

And dont forget to fit a resistor across the bulb terminals of the interior light or when it dims down it wont fully go out ...and probably end up draining battery if you dont use the car that often...from memory they are something like a 0.5 or 0.75 micro farad ??? if my memory serves me ..I bought a couple from Maplins ages ago for mine but Im sure somebody with better electronic knowledge will advise...think they are about 10p each    :y
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« Reply #33 on: 27 August 2019, 17:48:32 »

The LED wattages aren't relevant. Just be sure to buy the correct lengths and get cool white rather than warm white :y

Many thanks DG 8) :y
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« Reply #34 on: 27 August 2019, 17:49:50 »

And dont forget to fit a resistor across the bulb terminals of the interior light or when it dims down it wont fully go out ...and probably end up draining battery if you dont use the car that often...from memory they are something like a 0.5 or 0.75 micro farad ??? if my memory serves me ..I bought a couple from Maplins ages ago for mine but Im sure somebody with better electronic knowledge will advise...think they are about 10p each    :y

Cheers amba :y

The trouble is you have just made it more complicated for me ::) ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #35 on: 27 August 2019, 18:07:10 »

And dont forget to fit a resistor across the bulb terminals of the interior light or when it dims down it wont fully go out ...and probably end up draining battery if you dont use the car that often...from memory they are something like a 0.5 or 0.75 micro farad ??? if my memory serves me ..I bought a couple from Maplins ages ago for mine but Im sure somebody with better electronic knowledge will advise...think they are about 10p each    :y

Cheers amba :y

The trouble is you have just made it more complicated for me ::) ;D ;D ;)


what is it about this forum that make simple things so complicated? How do any of you do things that are  complicated?


501 and festoon LEDs are so cheap, it's simpler to just order some from your armchair and try them. The 501s I used were bought for the sidelights, but didn't work there. I put them in the courtesy and map lights, and they did. They also dimmed off the door delay which isn't particularly important, but does suggest they were correct - no resistors needed.
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« Reply #36 on: 27 August 2019, 18:19:49 »

And dont forget to fit a resistor across the bulb terminals of the interior light or when it dims down it wont fully go out ...and probably end up draining battery if you dont use the car that often...from memory they are something like a 0.5 or 0.75 micro farad ??? if my memory serves me ..I bought a couple from Maplins ages ago for mine but Im sure somebody with better electronic knowledge will advise...think they are about 10p each    :y

Cheers amba :y

The trouble is you have just made it more complicated for me ::) ;D ;D ;)


what is it about this forum that make simple things so complicated? How do any of you do things that are  complicated?


501 and festoon LEDs are so cheap, it's simpler to just order some from your armchair and try them. The 501s I used were bought for the sidelights, but didn't work there. I put them in the courtesy and map lights, and they did. They also dimmed off the door delay which isn't particularly important, but does suggest they were correct - no resistors needed.

Ah, that's better.  Thanks Nick! ;D ;D :y
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« Reply #37 on: 27 August 2019, 22:32:03 »

Only speak as I find......I prefer simple solutions but on advise off this forum when bulbs wouldn't fully dim I fitted a sub 1 part and they worked just fine.

Not over complicated ...just facts as I found it
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #38 on: 28 August 2019, 07:29:01 »

I can see the confusion here
most retro fit LED lamps are canbus compatible now and have a resistor
so even though Omega is not canbus,buy canbus compatible lamps
some early LED where just that
no doubt some sellers still sell old LED technology 
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Re: Door Puddle Light Problem
« Reply #39 on: 30 August 2019, 18:25:10 »

Yes, resistors are rarely needed nowadays, unlike the early days of LEDs.  They are also much improved from an illumination point of view - the old ones were seemingly bright, but not that great for reading with.

Personally, I find the yellowy traditional bulb easier to read with, but that's because I seem to be able to focus better with it, even though it seems dimmer.
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