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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #30 on: 12 October 2019, 15:35:50 »

Can we stop people taking drugs. No.

Can we (the government) advise there may be physical and mental consequences for some. Yes.

I would go down the control and tax route. Try it for  3 years and see what happens. The system we currently have in place clearly isn't working.

Tax take could be considerable.
I think the lady in your avatar would have your balls for that statement, and that's the problem. Too many who can't see the practicalities for their moral judgments.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #31 on: 12 October 2019, 15:48:41 »

Can we stop people taking drugs. No.

Can we (the government) advise there may be physical and mental consequences for some. Yes.

I would go down the control and tax route. Try it for  3 years and see what happens. The system we currently have in place clearly isn't working.

Tax take could be considerable.
They would need to be cheap enough to completely undermine the criminal aspects currently associated with supply and consumption, which would only serve to normalise it, and whilst it would almost certainly bring in revenue, it would be at the expense of an exponential increase in abuse, with all the pressures that would bring to the health system. The cost of which wouldn't be bourne by the revenue. Besides this would do nothing to prevent the effects on users and their subsequent behaviour... regardless of whether a person ends up quietly slumped in a corner or goes into a psychotic rage, they will be of zero use to productive society.

Kill the supply chain with tougher enforcement and punishment and watch the price increase far out of reach of normal society. No supply and no demand equals no industry.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #32 on: 12 October 2019, 16:21:30 »

Cannabis used to be relatively harmless, but the skunk that's in use today is highly dangerous. As has been said, it can drive you nuts. But, like everything else, it is a conscious choice.

Conscious choice maybe, but not an informed one. When I was teaching, I invited a member of the local Drugs Watch team to give a talk on drug abuse. He started by asking if the students thought that cannabis was harmful. Most considwewd it to be as "safe" as tobacco.
He then proceded to show slides of the physical effects of smoking weed - mainly on the gonads! He described in graphic detail how considerable shrinkage and ulceration would take place, rendering them unable to  father children and possibly lose their manhood altogether.
The students resolved to give up smoking weed!

That's what I meant by informed choice......

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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #33 on: 12 October 2019, 17:14:59 »

Can we stop people taking drugs. No.

Can we (the government) advise there may be physical and mental consequences for some. Yes.

I would go down the control and tax route. Try it for  3 years and see what happens. The system we currently have in place clearly isn't working.

Tax take could be considerable.
I think the lady in your avatar would have your balls for that statement, and that's the problem. Too many who can't see the practicalities for their moral judgments.

As I said earlier, the dealers would change their business model to target under 18,s much more, and sell product which is much stronger than the safer legal stuff. Not much would change in reality. The police have decriminalised most drugs in all but name by turning a blind eye to most of its use, but it hasn't helped matters at all.
As for informed choices. Can you call a 14 or 15 year old smoking skunk at school with their mates, because they desperately want to fit in an informed choice ?
Nah, shooting the dealers and importers (cutting the head off the snake) is the only real answer.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #34 on: 12 October 2019, 17:35:35 »

Why not sell any confiscated drugs ?  the tax payer scores (no pun intended ! ) the druggies get a fix , and it subdues the market , everyone  wins   :y 
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #35 on: 12 October 2019, 17:42:39 »

Thatís a great idea :y
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #36 on: 12 October 2019, 18:51:15 »

So....just two scousers saying drugs should be legalised then.  ;D
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #37 on: 12 October 2019, 18:56:35 »

So....just two scousers saying drugs should be legalised then.  ;D
That's about the size of it...
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #38 on: 12 October 2019, 21:39:47 »

So....just two scousers saying drugs should be legalised then.  ;D

Business partnership ??
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #39 on: 12 October 2019, 21:51:14 »

So....just two scousers saying drugs should be legalised then.  ;D

Business partnership ??
Sounds like a good idea, but I'll bet someone's already thought of it.  ;D
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #40 on: 13 October 2019, 20:51:48 »

SNP formally now back the decriminalisation of drugs.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #41 on: 13 October 2019, 21:24:50 »

SNP formally now back the decriminalisation of drugs.
they need too
it's 75% of the demographic apparently  ;D
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #42 on: 13 October 2019, 22:21:35 »

And they have never been right about anything, so why start now.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #43 on: 13 October 2019, 22:58:29 »

SNP formally now back the decriminalisation of drugs.
they need too
it's 75% of the demographic apparently  ;D

Yeh and they'll all be so stoned that they'll vote for independence!  ;D

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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #44 on: 14 October 2019, 00:20:53 »

Wish they would chuck some gear to that Blackford fella to shut the annoying fĒcker up.
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