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Re: Problem after problem after...
« Reply #15 on: 15 November 2019, 19:33:15 »

Alternator good.
Battery less so. Buy her a new one for Christmas ;)
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« Reply #16 on: 15 November 2019, 19:34:11 »

Ugh! She's had enough off me!!  :D

Right, I'll get looking, then.  :)
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Re: Problem after problem after...
« Reply #17 on: 15 November 2019, 20:46:50 »

I'd say battery too
the ECU does not like/shuts down under 12v
a tired battery ,when cranking ,particularly in cold weather is no good
and a 096 battery can be had for about 50
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« Reply #18 on: 15 November 2019, 21:15:59 »

It is a genuine Vx, and it's done 4 years. Not a short life for a car battery but not long either.  :-\
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« Reply #19 on: 15 November 2019, 21:30:37 »

Or invest in or borrow a good charger that can recondition those maintenance free type batteries. Might take two or three days, but I would expect 24 hours on yours.

Something like a CTEK MXS 5.0.
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« Reply #20 on: 15 November 2019, 22:02:05 »

Or invest in or borrow a good charger that can recondition those maintenance free type batteries. Might take two or three days, but I would expect 24 hours on yours.

Something like a CTEK MXS 5.0.
Or spend less on a new battery...
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« Reply #21 on: 16 November 2019, 10:37:14 »

It is a genuine Vx, and it's done 4 years. Not a short life for a car battery but not long either.  :-\
sadly it makes no difference how old or who made it
I've had cheap batteries last years (ones that where on cars when I brought them) and an expensive battery fail under warranty .

winter is coming ,50 spent now on a battery could actually  save you money and hassle in the long run

trying to start a car with complex electronics with a duff battery can damage expensive chunks of electrickary

windings in the fuel pump,  starter motor and solenoid heat up if voltage is too low to spin it up ,relays chatter ,ECUs shut down or worse, none of the many engine sensors read true values at low voltage

it's also important to make sure earth points and battery terminals are clean and sound too ,for the above reasons.

yes, I am a Builder, but I trained as an engineer in my early days ,so i'm not trying to make you spend money part swapping and i'm not on commission from battery suppliers  ;D

get someone to crank it over while you read the voltage at the battery when doing so

the sub 15 lidl aldi battery chargers do a conditioning charge using PWM i think
I have an ebay charger that does the same, I keep spare batteries charged and swap rather than trying to jump start with leads if a battery is low,
so you could also consider getting a charger,keeping the old battery charged up as a stand by ,for when you leave the sidelights on  ;D
sods law section 3 ,item f7 ...." if you have a spare something,the one fitted rarely fails "  :y
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« Reply #22 on: 16 November 2019, 20:21:49 »

That's all great, thanks lads. It's looking somewhat like battery - we went on a trip today, hour or so up the road. Made sure I read the voltage on cranking - 10.44v, did the same on return journey 10.5v, however on leaving we got to the end of the road and the engine died!  :'( which does add credence to it being battery, even if the volts on cranking didnt dip below 10v.

So what is the 'oof best buy' of late, then? Tanya or something, wasn't it, I read on a thread the other week? want 65ah or 72ah, really.  :)
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Re: Problem after problem after...
« Reply #23 on: 16 November 2019, 22:02:19 »

Last battery I bought for one of my Omegas (2.6 Elite) was a Yuasa about 4 years ago - been great and has never let me down. For the extra few quid to buy a battery with a good warranty period makes sense to me - as long as you keep the receipt and it is from a supplier that you can physically return it to in the event of a problem under warranty.
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« Reply #24 on: 16 November 2019, 23:30:14 »

Thanks. Lion seems 'best of budget' priced around 50+ Bosch for maybe 80 if lucky.. Yuasa in that sort of proce range too, heard good things about.

Can anyone offer a better 'bang for buck' option than a Varta E43 096 72ah with 680CCA, at 62.80?
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Re: Problem after problem after...
« Reply #25 on: 16 November 2019, 23:53:58 »

or Exide 096 72ah with 720CCA for 55.99.

Varta/Bosch same battery, better name, Exide has higher CCA and cheaper....  :-\
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« Reply #26 on: 17 November 2019, 01:02:13 »

These batteries have been mentioned several times on the Forum. 096 78AH 680CCA. Nobody has ever said they're rubbish, so perhaps worth a punt? Can be had right now for 36.00 with ebay voucher code PRIZE20. I don't imagine you'll find anything else usable for that money.
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« Reply #27 on: 17 November 2019, 09:16:38 »

That definitely wins 'best budget' then at 36 for a brand new 78ah battery that's insane. 4 year warranty too which is a surprise.
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« Reply #28 on: 17 November 2019, 11:05:46 »

I have a Lion one fitted on my Omega :y
one of those that Mr Enceladus linked in one of the diesel astras ,
paid the full 46 ,always started well  :) being over-sized for an astra (but just fits)  :y
don't know what eurocarshyte has offer wise with the daft discount code system they have, may be worth a look  :-\
less than 36 quid delivered is a great price for an 096 though  :o

I would say trickle/slow charge whatever you do get before you fit ,so it's 100% charged

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Re: Problem after problem after...
« Reply #29 on: 17 November 2019, 12:28:54 »

Ive had some problems with my Omega having a flat battery if left unused for about a week. No rhyme or reason to it, it just did it sometimes.
When I was getting rid of the 190D I took the battery off as it was quite new and a very high spec Bosch that would start a tank.
Fitted it to the omega and had no issues since. The Halfords battery it replaced was probably around three years old, might even still be under warranty actually, but Im becoming more convinced that batteries are one of those things that its worth buying quality nowadays.
As mentioned, all that modern electrickery doesn't like being messed around.
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