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Dumb motorways ....
« on: 26 January 2020, 21:12:56 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51236375

It doesn't take a genius to realise they're a stupid idea
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« Reply #1 on: 26 January 2020, 21:50:28 »

The minister who first signed them off reckons he was kidded. Totally against them now.
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« Reply #2 on: 26 January 2020, 21:58:09 »

I often question whether the highways ministers/road layout approvers actually drive a car themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: 26 January 2020, 23:04:33 »

Whoever thought of the idea should be forced to continually run across the M6 during rush hour. Its obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that its madness.
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« Reply #4 on: 26 January 2020, 23:13:15 »

 ..... and I'd also like to give special thanks to those that coned off lanes 1 & 2 of the M61 ... Highways Agency??? this morning across jct 6 (by the Reebok - as was) with no warning at all. At 0615hrs this morning I was driving through Chorley & Leyland trying to get to Wigan before 0650hrs. At one point as I joined the M6 my sat nav told me I'd be on the motorway for 7 miles .... I'd been driving for bl**dy miles since I'd not been able to leave the M61 and I was within 7 miles then
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« Reply #5 on: 27 January 2020, 00:00:46 »

Listening to the  audio of the bloke calling in his breakdown is chilling  :o
Any govt minister or adviser planning how they make the smart roads safer, obviously now need to spend some  time in a live lane @ night with the motor turned off  :)
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« Reply #6 on: 27 January 2020, 03:02:50 »

Bandwagon anyone? ::)
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« Reply #7 on: 27 January 2020, 08:00:23 »

Bandwagon anyone? ::)

 Not at all. Cars are inherently more reliable these days but there are still breakdowns and you need some where safe to stop.
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« Reply #8 on: 27 January 2020, 09:39:41 »

Bandwagon anyone? ::)

 Not at all. Cars are inherently more reliable these days but there are still breakdowns and you need some where safe to stop.
That wasn't where I was going... Smart motorways have always been a bad idea, anyone except the non driving graduates who designed them have always said as much.

It was aimed at the previous post... Always pops up with a video or outrage whenever some everyday thing pops up in front of him and could probably do with learning to read the road ahead a bit better, much like the lorry driver in the clip... :-X

Two things surprise me about the article... Firstly that ONLY 35 people were killed and secondly that there were 1472 ish near misses... I would have expected both to be much, much higher, and can only suggest that the near misses are reported ones and probably only reflect about 1% of the true number. If anything, the saddest thing is that this point wasn't reported as it might educate a few more people (or at least encourage them to read the highway code).
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« Reply #9 on: 27 January 2020, 10:04:48 »

Bandwagon anyone? ::)

 Not at all. Cars are inherently more reliable these days but there are still breakdowns and you need some where safe to stop.
That wasn't where I was going...  ....

Sorry!  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 27 January 2020, 10:09:24 »

The bigger question has to be, is it the motorways that are dumb or the users.............
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« Reply #11 on: 27 January 2020, 10:17:14 »

Both in many cases.
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« Reply #12 on: 27 January 2020, 10:20:14 »

Indeed, you could have four fenced in tracks with a twenty foot pole connecting each vehicle and someone WILL screw it all up ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 27 January 2020, 10:22:09 »

The bigger question has to be, is it the motorways that are dumb or the users.............

Agreed ..... but better to just have dumb users rather than both user & motorway!  :y
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« Reply #14 on: 27 January 2020, 10:27:25 »

When they were first announced, I had a discussion about the idea, which I immediately thought was "foolish", with a senior police traffic officer at Kent Police HQ.

He explained he had "very real concerns" about this, and envisaged all types of "challenges" for all the emergency services when (trying) attending any major, or even minor, incident.  My concerns were that without the safe refuge of a hard shoulder there would be trouble.  He totally agreed, but said, as he could only do as a serving officer, "We shall see".

How right we have both proved to be, but anyone with the considerable driving experience we both have could only come to that conclusion.

No, it is, once again, all about the money to be saved and the reduction in the "hassle" of going through planning procedures / public enquiries to extend our motorways to cope with the extra volume of traffic.  Your, and my life, does not count in that equation!! >:( >:(

Hopefully this dangerous nonsense will be kicked into touch.
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