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« on: 20 August 2020, 23:44:23 »

Returning home on the M1 southbound and close to joining the M62, I'm doing 55mph in cruise, as I have been for a number of miles before hand, 2 lanes bear left, I'm in the nearside lane, I'd seen a HGV (some kind of rigid tipper wagon) behind me pull out as we'd approached the turn off. As he was alongside me I was aware he was indicating left but assumed he was indicating from bearing left  :-\ ..... next thing he sounded his horn  ???  ???
He wanted me to slow down to allow him to pass me to take the next junction that we were almost at! He was the one that had JUST pulled out to overtake me. I just carried on at my set 55 mph while he braked to pull in behind me with much horn blaring!!
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« Reply #1 on: 21 August 2020, 00:59:52 »

I`d have turned up my stereo & stuck to 55 MPH ..... "King of the road" etc   8)
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« Reply #2 on: 21 August 2020, 01:00:14 »

I've had similar experiences on motorways whilst towing a caravan. Been in lane 1 travelling between 55 and 60 depending on the terrain, where on a downhill gradient, a HGV artic that was matching my speed on the flat behind me, decides to pull out for a slow overtake, but is unable to complete it before the bottom of the descent. The artic is then alongside my car and caravan, but the speed of the artic then drops, but the left indicator comes on, and the driver then expects me to either accelerate or reduce speed to allow him to move back into lane 1.
I appreciate the HGV driver wants to maintain their momentum, but doing it at the risk of not being able to safely complete the overtake before the end of the descent, therefore putting myself in a potentially dangerous situation, and then having the cheek to blast their horn as if it's my fault, using their weight and mass to try and intimidate me into letting them back in - to repeat Andy....tossers.
And I got my HGV Class 1 in the 80's....
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« Reply #3 on: 21 August 2020, 01:37:20 »

Think I`ll buy a 2CV  ::) 55 mph all the time & become a hippy  :-X now when i turn up my stereo.........   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SDGsQyBIbc

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« Reply #4 on: 21 August 2020, 10:49:50 »

I ALWAYS set my cruise control at the limit plus 10%. Never have this problem then.

Best thing to do when alongside trucks in traffic, if possible, is to make sure that the back of your vehicle is level with the front axle. That way, the front of your car should be visible from their windscreen. Overhead door mirrors aren't to be relied on as most drivers don't adjust them properly and it's possible to lose the side of a dark car in the shadow... so either drop right back or keep aheadas appropriate.

I don't give shit drivers an inch, but I don't sit around and wait to get squished either. That applies whether I am driving a car or an artic.
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« Reply #5 on: 21 August 2020, 11:09:27 »

I tend to hold back until I can completely pass a truck


When pulling back in, don't change lane until you can see the entire truck in both mirrors. Thinking about it, that applies to any vehicle.


If you're concentrating on what you're doing, it's perfectly possible to not touch the brakes on a motorway until reach the end of the exit slip road. If you're having to brake often on a motorway then you're driving too fast, and/or not paying enough attention to the other traffic.
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« Reply #6 on: 21 August 2020, 11:17:17 »

Just treat all other drivers as complete idiots that's what I was taught in the LAS & read the road all around you, a lot don't look any further than their bonnet.
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« Reply #7 on: 21 August 2020, 12:08:05 »

I tend to hold back until I can completely pass a truck


When pulling back in, don't change lane until you can see the entire truck in both mirrors. Thinking about it, that applies to any vehicle.


If you're concentrating on what you're doing, it's perfectly possible to not touch the brakes on a motorway until reach the end of the exit slip road. If you're having to brake often on a motorway then you're driving too fast, and/or not paying enough attention to the other traffic.
Exactly. But obviously it's always someone else's fault ::)
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« Reply #8 on: 21 August 2020, 12:13:21 »

I ALWAYS set my cruise control at the limit plus 10%. Never have this problem then.

Best thing to do when alongside trucks in traffic, if possible, is to make sure that the back of your vehicle is level with the front axle. That way, the front of your car should be visible from their windscreen. Overhead door mirrors aren't to be relied on as most drivers don't adjust them properly and it's possible to lose the side of a dark car in the shadow... so either drop right back or keep aheadas appropriate.

I don't give shit drivers an inch, but I don't sit around and wait to get squished either. That applies whether I am driving a car or an artic.

But this HGV driver had come up from behind me, started an overtake way way too late ..... he didn't need mirrors to see me, he just needed to look out of his windscreen. Typical of what a lot of waggon drivers seem to do & drive with his foot to the floor no matter what the rest of the traffic is doing.
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« Reply #9 on: 21 August 2020, 12:22:22 »

Tipper drivers are a specialist breed of arsehole.

Also, don't forget, that 55 on your speedometer is about 51 on theirs... So if they're doing 56 (as per their limiter :-X) then that's almost 10% differential which is the bare minimum required to overtake safely.

This is why trucks always seem to be flitting in and out of lanes.

Car drivers would do well to be taught this point.

By travelling at an indicated 60 (or more) then you shouldn't have any issues with lorries.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: 21 August 2020, 12:42:50 »

Got to say when I am towing the caravan the majority of HGV drivers are excellent if I overtake they normally flash to inform me that I am clear to pull back into lane & I do the same for them if I am overtaken, usually thanks is acknowledged by L/R indicator flash. Calm & courteous as I was taught pays dividends.
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« Reply #11 on: 21 August 2020, 12:46:08 »

Got to say when I am towing the caravan the majority of HGV drivers are excellent if I overtake they normally flash to inform me that I am clear to pull back into lane & I do the same for them if I am overtaken, usually thanks is acknowledged by L/R indicator flash. Calm & courteous as I was taught pays dividends.

I wasn't flashed in once going or coming back home though one HGV driver did acknowledge me flashing him in  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 21 August 2020, 12:50:42 »

....

Also, don't forget, that 55 on your speedometer is about 51 on theirs... So if they're doing 56 (as per their limiter :-X) then that's almost 10% differential which is the bare minimum required to overtake safely.
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and being that much high off the ground he'd have been able to see that there was no chance at all of achieving what he was attempting.

I used to tow at more like 60 (plus  ::)) with my previous caravan, but this one is the best part of 2 tonne, attached to the car by a teeny 50mm ball ..... I'm happier at 55  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: 21 August 2020, 12:51:04 »

At least one of them was awake then :D
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« Reply #14 on: 21 August 2020, 12:52:42 »

....

Also, don't forget, that 55 on your speedometer is about 51 on theirs... So if they're doing 56 (as per their limiter :-X) then that's almost 10% differential which is the bare minimum required to overtake safely.
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and being that much high off the ground he'd have been able to see that there was no chance at all of achieving what he was attempting.

I used to tow at more like 60 (plus  ::)) with my previous caravan, but this one is the best part of 2 tonne, attached to the car by a teeny 50mm ball ..... I'm happier at 55  ;)
I understand that, but just be mindful that an indicated 55 is just the wrong speed... Possibly be better dropping back to 50 and let everything pass by easily ;)
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