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Ken T

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proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« on: 21 April 2011, 22:13:08 »
Remember a short time ago when TB was trying welding and some unkind comments about quality were passed ?. Well.......

The flexible section went on my exhaust so I got a replacement from fleabay. It was the wrong size, but after some gentle machining it fitted. Now to weld it in . I had been to night classes, passed all exams so this should be easy.  :y :y :y 

My MIG had been sitting in the garage for about 6 years, a Clarke 120E, with a new reel of wire (when bought). So I pulled it out, clamped on and fired up.

The results were less than encouraging :-/



But I am supposed to know about all this welding stuff, I have been on courses etc.  :'( :'( :'(

 My son came out to assist, so we took the welder to bits, cleaned rollers, liner, torch, torch liner everything, and the results were worse than before  :'( :'( :'(

The wire feed was stopping and starting, coming out 1" then stopping, then another 1" etc. Then I investigated the wire reel. About 3/4 was fine, nice and shiny, but the last 1/4 was horrible, lots of surface rust etc. I ended cutting off about 3 layers of wire to get to a good clean stock and retried, and



Considerably better  :y OK, not perfect, but I haven't welded for about 7 years. 

Pride comes before....

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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #1 on: 21 April 2011, 22:19:27 »
 :P Don`t give up the day-job, Ken! ;D
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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #2 on: 21 April 2011, 22:31:08 »
I think you are right about the day job.  ;D ;D

I remain convinced that MIG welding is easy, once its set up properly, anyone can do it. My son who has had no formal training is producing reasonable flat position runs. I got a text today, "any spare steel in the garage Dad ?" . I am worried I come out and find the Mig doors welded shut !.

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« Reply #3 on: 21 April 2011, 22:32:43 »
I remember having a go with my bruv's mig welder once - laughing his head off at the finished article -  his verbal comment was:

" It looks like an Albatross DUMP !"   nice ;D ;D ;D ;D

At least I tried  :-[ :-[ :-[

So wouldn't worry about your pigeon sh*t :y :y :y

But would side with Debs about yer day job ! ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #4 on: 21 April 2011, 22:39:54 »
Joking aside, Ken......I`ve found that most problems that I`ve had when using my MIG, have been dirt/rust/zinc/oil surface-contamination related.
Bright, bare/clean steel is the way to go. ;)
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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #5 on: 21 April 2011, 22:53:09 »
wire speed bit high BUT not bad, Dont try arc welding though-took 6 months for me to get trained. Argon/Co2 gas is ok but harder to set up  :y
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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #6 on: 21 April 2011, 23:07:04 »
Yes you are right, I was going to add, I have been using pub CO2 for some time, its a harsh weld, however I managed to get some Argoshield type gas and at higher current it is sooo much better, weld arc is more continuous, a different, smoother sound than CO2.

Welding is fun, but you need lots of practise to stay in touch.  :y

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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #7 on: 22 April 2011, 00:24:08 »
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Yes you are right, I was going to add, I have been using pub CO2 for some time, its a harsh weld, however I managed to get some Argoshield type gas and at higher current it is sooo much better, weld arc is more continuous, a different, smoother sound than CO2.

Welding is fun, but you need lots of practise to stay in touch.  :y
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I think that is the secret, my welder has sat unused for 5 or 6 years, I have plenty wire and gas, just not needed.......if and when it does come out I will need to practice again to get it right.... :)
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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #8 on: 22 April 2011, 00:33:03 »
Although I have a MIG set, I've never really been a fan of MIG welding. Much prefer TIG (which is normally only found at work) or a MMA/'stick' set  :y :y
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« Reply #9 on: 22 April 2011, 00:49:34 »
I was talking about my Mig welder, however I prefer Gas for welding and brazing, I have a small kit with some gas and oxygen, mainly brazing, but these are no longer available, so once used stock up kit will be binned.... :(
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« Reply #10 on: 22 April 2011, 00:52:47 »
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I was talking about my Mig welder, however I prefer Gas for welding and brazing, I have a small kit with some gas and oxygen, mainly brazing, but these are no longer available, so once used stock up kit will be binned.... :(

I always wish I'd 'relocated' the small bottle oxy/acetylene set we had at Halls when it closed.  :(
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« Reply #11 on: 22 April 2011, 01:01:35 »
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I was talking about my Mig welder, however I prefer Gas for welding and brazing, I have a small kit with some gas and oxygen, mainly brazing, but these are no longer available, so once used stock up kit will be binned.... :(

I always wish I'd 'relocated' the small bottle oxy/acetylene set we had at Halls when it closed.  :(


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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #12 on: 22 April 2011, 08:17:26 »
Still better than mine. Not really had time to practice, and I think that's the key.

Need to tidy garage before I can play again
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Re: proper Pigeon Sh*t welding
« Reply #13 on: 22 April 2011, 10:06:37 »
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Still better than mine. Not really had time to practice, and I think that's the key.

Need to tidy garage before I can play again

I'm sure you can find a bit of metal that needs welding back onto your garage door... ::)

Must have a play with my welder again sometime. None of the umpteen projects I've started and not yet finished require welding though. ::)

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« Reply #14 on: 22 April 2011, 11:20:07 »
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Still better than mine. Not really had time to practice, and I think that's the key.

Need to tidy garage before I can play again

I'm sure you can find a bit of metal that needs welding back onto your garage door... ::)

Must have a play with my welder again sometime. None of the umpteen projects I've started and not yet finished require welding though. ::)

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