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ICE on a budget......
« on: 18 August 2006, 09:04:48 »

Looking to replace my CAR400 (alright I've had the car over a year and not done it yet!) but i'm on a bit of a budget, so looking for something reasonable, with multichanger and all adapters (MID, steering controls) at lowest cast!

Any suggestions?
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #1 on: 18 August 2006, 10:29:36 »

Try Ebay

Car 400 is pre facelift

Check the adaptor companies before buying the head unit, see what is available
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #2 on: 18 August 2006, 17:13:57 »

Yep, eBay.

Just need patience so you'll get the right one.  ;)
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2006, 21:08:54 »

I got a Sony CD changer for £30 and a COnnects2 display driver for £20 or so.

WOrth looking at anyway
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #4 on: 20 August 2006, 10:26:09 »

What is your budget?

For a decent new unit, you really need to pay around £150-£200.

Otherwise, as suggested, Ebay is the place.
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #5 on: 21 August 2006, 09:42:15 »

would be looking at £250ish but would want multichanger and adapters for that!  :-/
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #6 on: 22 August 2006, 11:24:15 »

£30 - £50 for a CD Changer
£20 - £40 for a display adaptor
anything for a head unit - do you want MD, Tape or what? (can't see point in CD H/U with CD Changer
Amps - see what you want and set a limit
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #7 on: 22 August 2006, 16:36:04 »

4 channel amp for the door speakers plus a sub......to be honest I would do this first off becuase the week point in the original head units are the amps and if not driven hard (i.e. into a high resistance amp) they sound better.
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #8 on: 22 August 2006, 19:04:36 »

Well if your interested for the money you have you could have this lot off me:-






Its a sony CDX-M700R head unit, active black so it looks like a blank panel when off, it has pre-outs for front and rear spaekers as well as separate sub out so you can adjust the 'volume' of the sub/ front and rear speakers without a separate gain control, it will also run MD or CD changer.

Theres a Dillinger 4 channel bridgeable amp

An 8" sub which already has an amp built in

A brand new unused 10 disc sony multi changer

The auto leads PC-09 (i think) steering controll adaptor
I also have the traffic master adaptor if you want it.

Ive also got the full display adaptor. Its a soundlinks VAU01DS (DOPS002/ DOPS003) which can be thrown in but i dont know if this will work as i havent tried it and its the wrong one if youve got the ccrt700 phone headunit.

Ive got the origional boxes and instructions for all of it apart from the sub

I can also dig out a few speaker/ power wires if you need them

I also have a 6 disc mini disc changer and the XA- C30 selctor so you can run both changers on the same head unit which are for sale separately or instead of the CD changer and i have the CDX-M800 head unit which is a newer version of the 700

If your interested let me know †:)
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #9 on: 23 August 2006, 21:01:45 »

If you're on a budget, forget the adaptors!

Start with a good MP3 headunit and later add four channel amp driving all speakers, finally, use the rear amp channels, bridged, to power a sub instead of the rear speakers.

For good opinions on current kit, go here.

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/

It's a great site.

Edit.  Headunits.  At around £200, I'd go for Alpine or Pioneer.



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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #10 on: 23 August 2006, 22:01:46 »

Completely agree with Hillper (as usual).

Stop worrying about adaptors right now and concentrate on a decent headunit.
Up to £200 this makes of choice are:
Pioneer
Alpine
JVC (in that order).

Go for an MP3 headunit and make sure it has 3 sets of pre-outs.

I would say look at what is available second hand. There are some fantastic units available.
If you can find one, get the Pioneer DEH-P8600MP or the DEH-P77MP both superb units.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PIONEER-DEH-P8600MP-HEADUNIT-with-mp3-and-wma-playback_W0QQitemZ140021393136QQihZ004QQcategoryZ39762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pioneer-DEH-P77MP-CD-Head-unit_W0QQitemZ190023156315QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3293QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #11 on: 24 August 2006, 08:16:36 »

Bah all very well saying forget the adaptors, but I like my display!!!!

ok, had a fresh look around now following your helpful information. Looks Like I will be doing this in stages now, mainly so the missus doesn't find out how much it's gonna cost!

So now looking at ths

Alpine CDA-9856R MP3/WMA CD Tuner

or this:

Alpine CDA-9853R MP3/WMA CD Tuner


Opinions?
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #12 on: 24 August 2006, 15:19:14 »

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Completely agree with Hillper (as usual).

Stop worrying about adaptors right now and concentrate on a decent headunit.
Up to £200 this makes of choice are:
Pioneer
Alpine
JVC (in that order).



Bearing in mind you can have the full set up as above for little more than the cost of a new head unit, you pays your money you takes your choice.

Having been through Kenwood and had friends use Pioneer stuff id say theare definately no better than high end Sony equiptment, but each to their own i guess, as a crap pair of speakers can make a good headunit sound rubbish.

Just my 2p worth
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Re: ICE on a budget......
« Reply #13 on: 25 August 2006, 09:19:46 »

I did mine in stages.  It took nearly 18 months in total.  

I'd have either of the Alpines.  Both seem good.  But not sure how well the glidetouch bar works on the '53.
Which is better looking is a personal thing.  Bit too flashy for me!

Phil.  You're right, high end Sony stuff is as good as normal Kenwood, Pioneer or Alpine gear!  ;)
Actually, ten years ago, high end Sony gear was amonst the best you could buy.  But I'm talking about £1000 or more units.
They may make a comeback.  Some of their latest gear seems good on quality.

Can you tell me more about that Dellinger amp?

I've never heard of them!

And I agree about speakers.  They are the point in the system which can make the biggest difference in sound.  
Luckily, standard Omega speakers are very good.  Especially when amped.
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