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[STEMO]

Mine was a six speed auto. No trouble with engine or gearbox in over 100,000 miles.

[BazaJT]

Last weekend I helped change the gearbox[6 speed manual]on a 1.6 turbo Astra GTC which had just short of 80,000 miles on it.the new[second hand]gearbox was from a similar car but with only 30,000 miles on it.

[tigers_gonads]

How many seats do you need ?

[Marks DTM Calib]

2.0 CDTi is the F40 box and not the M32 so fewer issues (although I put 197k hard miles miles on an M32 with the 1.9 CDti and had no issues and that was the unmodified box, it did get 50k oil changes)  and the later updates have made big improvements to the M32, I personally wouldn't be avoiding them.

The 1.4T is acceptable, more so than I would have expected.

[Viral_Jim]

How many seats do you need ?

Six is the minimum. And that's on and approximately monthly basis. 7 is useful as it's very often 6 people plus mobility scooter, so a 2-3-1 formation works best unless the car is mahoosive enough to have the scooter behind the rear seats.

[Andy B]

How many seats do you need ?

Six is the minimum. And that's on and approximately monthly basis. 7 is useful as it's very often 6 people plus mobility scooter, so a 2-3-1 formation works best unless the car is mahoosive enough to have the scooter behind the rear seats.

You need a Chrysler Grand Voyager with the seats that fold into the floor (apparently not all have that option) Seats up & you seat 7 in total ie 6 passengers ... seats down & it rivals a Transit for carrying stuff. 
They're getting on a bit now though.

[STEMO]

How many seats do you need ?

Six is the minimum. And that's on and approximately monthly basis. 7 is useful as it's very often 6 people plus mobility scooter, so a 2-3-1 formation works best unless the car is mahoosive enough to have the scooter behind the rear seats.

You need a Chrysler Grand Voyager with the seats that fold into the floor (apparently not all have that option) Seats up & you seat 7 in total ie 6 passengers ... seats down & it rivals a Transit for carrying stuff. 
They're getting on a bit now though.

Or an actual transit minibus.

[Doctor Gollum]

The Torneo or Vito

Or Viano if you're feeling posh.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Trouble is, as soon as you go van base you lose a hell of a lot of the everyday use refinement

[Nick W]

Trouble is, as soon as you go van base you lose a hell of a lot of the everyday use refinement

Compared to a Voyager?

[Viral_Jim]

Trouble is, as soon as you go van base you lose a hell of a lot of the everyday use refinement

I found this to be the case with the berlingo I inherited from my then mother in law. Vastly practical, but also dreadfully unrefined and uncomfortable.

Not a bad tool, but not really a car, and certainly not something id use for family holidays.

[Doctor Gollum]

You forget, it's basically a Saxo van

A petrol Viano would be reasonably refined and ULEZ compliant. And offers a better choice of wheelbase options compared to the Tourneo

Cheap too because they aren't overly popular.

Starter for 10...

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[Doctor Gollum]

Incidentally, the diesel Transmits really, really hate stop start town work. We had one at my previous job that had to be taken on a high rpm two hour drive every week just to keep the EML off. Not designed for short stop start city journeys.

[STEMO]

Incidentally, the diesel Transmits really, really hate stop start town work. We had one at my previous job that had to be taken on a high rpm two hour drive every week just to keep the EML off. Not designed for short stop start city journeys.

And yet Amazon drivers use them all the time. Our man leaves his running outside the house.

[Doctor Gollum]

Incidentally, the diesel Transmits really, really hate stop start town work. We had one at my previous job that had to be taken on a high rpm two hour drive every week just to keep the EML off. Not designed for short stop start city journeys.

And yet Amazon drivers use them all the time. Our man leaves his running outside the house.

Because they're more reliable than the PSA shit. Put another way, doing 20mph for five minutes at a time 24/7 puts them into limp mode within a tank of fuel.
Achieving a reasonable speed every so often helps, but doesn't change the fact that a modern petrol engine will be more reliable than a diesel one, especially when you allow for emission related repairs.