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[ronnyd]

I think one of the worst things for the paramilitaries in NI was the peace process. They had to think of other ways to hide their criminality.

[Sir Tigger KC]

And less than a year before he told the DUP conference in Belfast that he (nor any UK PM) could ever even consider putting a border down the Irish sea.
He should have held his nerve and threatened to walk away without a deal. Then just let the clock run down and wait for a phone call.
The whole issue was and is a red herring. On the one hand the amount of illegal trade across the border is miniscule in the grand scheme of things and not worth worrying about.
On the other hand the border is porous as a sponge. Always has been and always will be, and no-one will ever stop it.
A small number of people living either side of it will always get rich from smuggling across it.

The Benn Surrender Act made No Deal illegal and the EU knew that, so Johnsons options were very limited. 

Lord Frost said the other day that that Barnier and his team's attitude changed after the Benn Surrender Act was passed, as they knew they had us over a barrel. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I think one of the worst things for the paramilitaries in NI was the peace process. They had to think of other ways to hide their criminality.

Not really tbh. They carry out their money making criminality and the authorities turn a blind eye on the condition they dont blow shit up or randomly murder people.
The price of peace to Blair. Appeasement to us normal people.

[Doctor Gollum]

I think one of the worst things for the paramilitaries in NI was the peace process. They had to think of other ways to hide their criminality.

Not really tbh. They carry out their money making criminality and the authorities turn a blind eye on the condition they dont blow shit up or randomly murder people.
The price of peace to Blair. Appeasement to us normal people.

Just another thing to hang him for...

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

yep. One item on a very long list. 

[STEMO]

Oh dear, Boris 
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-23/exclusive-pm-pictured-drinking-at-downing-street-party-during-lockdown

To late for Sue Gray to look into this one, but it will give Starmer another excuse to call for his resignation.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Will it ever ficking stop? 

[Rangie]

Good on him , quite right to have a drink when a colleague is leaving! Who actually gives a f**k.

[STEMO]

Good on him , quite right to have a drink when a colleague is leaving! Who actually gives a f**k.

Starmer, Rayner, BBC, ITV and CH4 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Good on him , quite right to have a drink when a colleague is leaving! Who actually gives a f**k.

The people whose nearest and dearest died alone and terrified because families were banned (by Boris) from spending their final hours with them, for starters.

[Rangie]

They can keep on churning this out day after day week after week but nothing will change, it's happened it's over time to move on.

[Raeturbo]

Time to get on with the job they are so well paid for instead of bickering, which is helping no one.

[BazaJT]

If a brief comment I heard on BBC news in the early hours of yesterday morning[that Starmer may or may not yet receive a fine for breaking those self same rules]is correct why has nothing been made of this before or since? if it is incorrect why has it not been refuted?

[LC0112G]

If a brief comment I heard on BBC news in the early hours of yesterday morning[that Starmer may or may not yet receive a fine for breaking those self same rules]is correct why has nothing been made of this before or since? if it is incorrect why has it not been refuted?

Have you been hiding under a rock? It was all over the news about a week ago. Starmer (and Angela Reyner) is/are being investigated by (IIRC) Northumbria police (the same lot that never fined Cummings). Both have said they will resign as party leaders if they are issued with a fine. That allows them to keep the pressure up on Boris to resign since he has been fined. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

They can keep on churning this out day after day week after week but nothing will change, it's happened it's over time to move on.

Yes, and all I can do is repeat my post #7.

Far, far bigger things to worry about than a few drinks on the side that no doubt took place all over the land.  Boris made mistakes - so what, that is far from hot news now! 

Even if that had not happened, the "loved ones" who lost relatives and could not attend their hospital beds or their subsequent funerals, would still not have been able to do so anyway, for their own protection.  It is done, they are dead, it is over, but war, energy prices, food shortages, higher living costs are THE issue on the minds of most people.