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[deviator]

Well colour me surprised, they maybe aren't as green as originally thought.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8977211/Are-plug-cars-really-green-claim-Report-suggests-not.html

[Marks DTM Calib]

Nobody ever really claims they are truly green, it just moves the pollution from one place to another.

[Nick W]

Nobody ever really who knows anything about them claims they are truly green, it just moves the pollution from one place to another.

FTFY


After all, 30 years ago diesels were touted as the cure for CO2 emissions with no side effects.

[Doctor Gollum]

Nobody ever really claims they are truly green, it just moves the pollution from one place to another.

Fully electric also fall into this category.

[STEMO]

There's always a by-product, somewhere, you don't get energy for free.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I've said it before. Teleportation is the answer.

Some boffin will figure it out.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

No -one with more than one brain cell or an ounce of honesty ever really claims they are truly green, it just moves the pollution from one place to another.

Fixed that for you. 

[BazaJT]

Hybrids to me are the worst of both worlds.When you're on the ICE you're lugging about the weight of the electrical gubbins/batteries and when you're going electric you're lugging the ICE plus gearbox,fuel etc. and you also lose interior space to the electrics/batteries.

[Doctor Gollum]

You say that... A Prius battery pack could easily fit in most cars across the rear of the back seat between the wheel arches. 19x96x39 cm for the current one... And 45 kgs which is basically the weight of all the spares/tools you would normally carry in an Omega

[Rangie]

You say that... A Prius battery pack could easily fit in most cars across the rear of the back seat between the wheel arches. 19x96x39 cm for the current one... And 45 kgs which is basically the weight of all the spares/tools you would normally carry in an Omega

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Stopped carrying tools in 1987 , apart from items to change a wheel that's all I would do nowadays & that would depend on where the vehicle was, moved to Norfolk in 1987 and bought myself a new Nissan Patrol LWB & SWMBO a new Micra and joined Green Flag for free for 3 years been with them ever since.
Only ever used them twice in 33 years both for electrical problems.

[ronnyd]

Not that any of this will really affect me but i think all this policy is really for is to get as many drivers off the road as possible. No way in my life have i been able to buy a new car and the only E/V i could afford would be a Quingo.

[Doctor Gollum]

I was taking the piss

45kgs is barely 1% of the weight of a car and equates to a fat dog or modest child and makes next to no difference in the performance of your average family car...

[Rangie]

Not that any of this will really affect me but i think all this policy is really for is to get as many drivers off the road as possible. No way in my life have i been able to buy a new car and the only E/V i could afford would be a Quingo.

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I wouldn't even consider buying an electric vehicle just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest , when I have to give up my "proper" car that will be it for me , intend keeping the Range Rover for as long as possible & SWMBO has zero interest in cars so will keep the Subaru as well it has only covered 40,000 miles from new .

[Viral_Jim]

My biggest issue with hybrids is the level of complexity they add. One of the biggest attractions of ev's is the mechanical simplicity and reduced maintenance burden. But they aren't maintenance free, so in a hybrid you're basically maintaining two different drivetrains.

How green EVs are is all down to how green the grid is that powers them. But I guess moving any pollution out of city centres is a good thing.

I'm sure I'll have EVs in the future,  but I can't see me having a hybrid, plug in or otherwise.

[Doctor Gollum]

They're only proposing the outlawing of NEW ice cars by 2030.

Whilst that isn't that far away, they'll be around for a little while yet. That said, better get a wriggle on if you want to own an interesting car while you still can.