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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #60 on: 18 December 2020, 23:16:12 »

There was an article last week about Jeremy Clarksons Range Rover Rover TDV8 2007 model year which he has owned from new , requires both turbos replacing ( common fault around 120,000 miles) he said that he absolutely loves the vehicle and although it may seem silly he is willing to spend the £4000 he has been quoted. Mine is exactly the same engine & model year but my independent reckons he could do mine for just under £3000  if they ever fail, so be prepared for big bills..🙂

Forgive me for being presumptuous, but I'll guess Mr Clarkson has a few more quid in the bank than you.  ;D ;D
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #61 on: 18 December 2020, 23:23:38 »

https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk

These people do good work, but you'd have to call them as the TDV lumps aren't covered on their website.

You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\

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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #62 on: 19 December 2020, 08:32:02 »

There was an article last week about Jeremy Clarksons Range Rover Rover TDV8 2007 model year which he has owned from new , requires both turbos replacing ( common fault around 120,000 miles) he said that he absolutely loves the vehicle and although it may seem silly he is willing to spend the £4000 he has been quoted. Mine is exactly the same engine & model year but my independent reckons he could do mine for just under £3000  if they ever fail, so be prepared for big bills..🙂

Forgive me for being presumptuous, but I'll guess Mr Clarkson has a few more quid in the bank than you.  ;D ;D
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Oh yes without a doubt , but I am very comfortably off thank you for your concern. Just trying to make people aware of what these vehicles could cost if the worst happens, a lot of folk buy them without having the means to maintain them properly, which accounts for so many poor examples up for sale.
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #63 on: 19 December 2020, 10:21:22 »

You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\

That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told.  I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job.  :-\

Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job.  As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt!   ::)
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #64 on: 19 December 2020, 10:30:04 »

It's probably only 10/12 bolts and a couple of plugs :y

I was just highlighting that it's unlikely to be a driveway job ;)

Of course, it could just need a battery  :D
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #65 on: 19 December 2020, 10:41:50 »

You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\

That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told.  I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job.  :-\

Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job.  As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt!   ::)


The body is designed to be removed, because the timing belt isn't the only job that requires it. It's done with a two post lift.


That said, plenty of garages do the belt job with the body in place, trading ease of fitting for the work involved in removing the body. Also, I believe the rear belts are for the fuel pumps, and don't need to be timed.


£1000 timing belts are nothing new; Renault say that their V6 engines need to be removed for a belt, whereas nobody actually does that.
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #66 on: 19 December 2020, 10:45:50 »

Summary: Run! ::)

In fact, given that, on all the JLR forums I've tried, finding any useful pearls of wisdom among the "help! my diseasel engine had just lunched itself" posts is like finding a needle in a hay stack, I'd say stick to petrol. But then, I would say that.   ::)

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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #67 on: 19 December 2020, 10:47:22 »

When I took mine in there were two " body offs" in the workshop one TDV8 was having both turbos replaced the  other was having all new brake pipes fitted , if my memory serves me correctly I think it was 2.5 hours labour for removal of the body so around £175 on the bill at my indi, which obviously includes putting it back again..👍
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #68 on: 19 December 2020, 13:02:21 »

You're biggest issue will be labour if the body has to come out to swap the engine :-\

That's pretty much a certainty given that the 'correct' way to change the cambelts on Disco 3/4 is to take the body off, as one set is on the back of the engine so I'm told.  I say 'correct' as apparently the rear cambelt can be changed without taking the body off, but it sounds like a very difficult job getting down the back of the engine and you'd have to wonder at the quality of the job.  :-\

Anyway I wouldn't think taking the body off is a major issue to someone who knows what they are doing and who has the right kit for the job.  As Mick says you have to be prepared for big bills with these cars, and I believe a cambelt change at a indy specialist costs about a grand! More at the LR stealers no doubt!   ::)


The body is designed to be removed, because the timing belt isn't the only job that requires it. It's done with a two post lift.


That said, plenty of garages do the belt job with the body in place, trading ease of fitting for the work involved in removing the body. Also, I believe the rear belts are for the fuel pumps, and don't need to be timed.


£1000 timing belts are nothing new; Renault say that their V6 engines need to be removed for a belt, whereas nobody actually does that.

Belts on D3-4 aren't to bad once access gained,Jag XF is tighter though as I recently found :o
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #69 on: 19 December 2020, 13:17:44 »

Summary: Run! ::)

In fact, given that, on all the JLR forums I've tried, finding any useful pearls of wisdom among the "help! my diseasel engine had just lunched itself" posts is like finding a needle in a hay stack, I'd say stick to petrol. But then, I would say that.   ::)


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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #70 on: 19 December 2020, 16:44:05 »

For those that are interested in such things, here's a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty.  :)   Well hardly anyway.  ;D

A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££!  :-X  :(
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #71 on: 19 December 2020, 16:48:27 »

For those that are interested in such things, here's a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty.  :)   Well hardly anyway.  ;D

A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££!  :-X  :(
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #72 on: 19 December 2020, 16:54:15 »

For those that are interested in such things, here's a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty.  :)   Well hardly anyway.  ;D

A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££!  :-X  :(
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #73 on: 19 December 2020, 18:05:23 »

For those that are interested in such things, here's a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty.  :)   Well hardly anyway.  ;D

A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££!  :-X  :(

Refreshing to see a garage tech who knows how the car works and how to use the tech at his disposal. Bad news delivered to the customer but with the minimum money and time wasted on BS and parts replacements on a hunch. :y
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Re: What's wrong with this?
« Reply #74 on: 19 December 2020, 18:22:39 »

For those that are interested in such things, here's a video of a fella diagnosing the cause of a misfire on a Disco 4 without getting his hands dirty.  :)   Well hardly anyway.  ;D

A permanent misfire though not a start up misfire, and a misfire that will cost someone ££££££!  :-X  :(

Refreshing to see a garage tech who knows how the car works and how to use the tech at his disposal. Bad news delivered to the customer but with the minimum money and time wasted on BS and parts replacements on a hunch. :y

Yes I thought it was pretty cool!  8)
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