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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 17 December 2021, 11:19:50 »

OK, I over simplified. But the injector timings are based on engine load, one of the variables being air drawn in. The larger displacement will require more air and therefore more fuel to maintain the correct mixture.

However this is a moot point if the ecu can be told what it is connected to...

Right, the ECU adds injection times based on lambda to make it work, but it does so based on a base map, if that base map is designed for 600cc minus the fuel trims go up. And they go up too high for my liking

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 17 December 2021, 11:16:48 »

 

Standard* 2.6 and 3.2 ECUs are identical hardware and software, with configuration options to adjust between different settings.



*The are some variants, that have different maps, for non standard cars, like a few (but not all) UK spec police cars.

So about what I have can I convert it to 3.2 manual? Wouldn't it be necessary to put the 3.2 when going to the opel service?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 17 December 2021, 10:44:06 »

Been a while since I did it, so the steps might be vague, but hopefully good enough.

Go into diags, then into engine, then the engine type.

Then go to the option that is something like variant config.  Here you can adjust various configuration bits, including whether it has cruise, but also Transmission type.

Note - the Tech2 needs authorisation to do this on that specific car.  So its not just a case of having a Tech2.


You might also have to do the same in the ABS (can't remember is that has a gearbox config), as it sits on the same CAN bus.

My car is 2.6 and it will have a 3.2 ECU, will there be a problem when entering my chassis number?

You don't enter a chassis number.

At the same time you are doing the variant config, you can set the ECU to the correct engine.

Which implies that the original 2.6 ecu can be 'corrected'...

In which case the original advice to fit the 2.6 sensors and loom to the 3.2 lump and retain the 2.6 ecu/chip/transponder was correct all along

But that was not told to me, they never talked about being able to configure the ECU, it was said to circulate with a 3.2 engine and an ECU 2.6, which seeing the fuel settings, is not a good option

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 17 December 2021, 08:10:05 »

Then tell them to skip the Vin imput

It can? What idiots if you can and they don't say it. Another option would be to give them a chassis number of a 3.2?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 16 December 2021, 19:49:35 »

Do you happen to have the car pass for your car and the donor?

No 

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 16 December 2021, 18:23:42 »

Why do you need to do that? It simply isn't relevant.

The Tech 2 reads that from the ecu.

As long as the immobiliser chip, transponder and ecu are from a single vehicle, they could be fitted to a chainsaw.

The opel service told me that it connects with the central over the internet by entering my chassis number.
The switchboard, immo and transponder are from the same car

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 16 December 2021, 15:57:56 »

Been a while since I did it, so the steps might be vague, but hopefully good enough.

Go into diags, then into engine, then the engine type.

Then go to the option that is something like variant config.  Here you can adjust various configuration bits, including whether it has cruise, but also Transmission type.

Note - the Tech2 needs authorisation to do this on that specific car.  So its not just a case of having a Tech2.


You might also have to do the same in the ABS (can't remember is that has a gearbox config), as it sits on the same CAN bus.

My car is 2.6 and it will have a 3.2 ECU, will there be a problem when entering my chassis number?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 16 December 2021, 04:37:23 »

Correct.

For clarity:

Are you making your manual 2.6 a manual 3.2?

Yes 

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 22:01:08 »

Needs activating

I activate the speed control and then can I select the type of transmission?

They're two steps of the same process

The only caveat is that the clutch switch must be fitted and there must be no autobox wiring connected to the engine ecu.

The manual engine harness includes the reverse light switch so you'll need to swap that from the autobox loom. (This isn't critical for getting the gearbox updated, but is potentially a legal requirement.)

If my car is already manual, all that does not affect me I understand

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 21:58:13 »

Needs activating

I activate the speed control and then can I select the type of transmission?

They're two steps of the same process

So when saving the speed control configuration it would be converted to manual?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 21:34:50 »

Needs activating

I activate the speed control and then can I select the type of transmission?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 21:22:11 »

It should be factory fitted as part of the dash loom regardless of gearbox type.

If not, easy to wire in. Positive feed and ground.

Can't off hand recall which way around... Either from the engine ecu to ground or it grounds through the engine ecu.

Be some detail in the retrofit cruise guide.

It brought the pre-installation of the cruise control, connect the lever and the pedal sensor but do not activate it because it does not have tech2, but in theory it is ready to work. Would that be enough?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 21:14:59 »

You can change the transmission type as part of activating  cruise control. This tells the ecu the type of transmission fitted. It should then sort itself out from there.

You will need to have the clutch switch fitted but the wiring should be present.

Ops, If my car is manual, I won't have the clutch wiring, right? 
Now that I think about it, you mean the clutch sensor for cruise control, that I do!
The chassis number then, does not influence? Will you treat it normal despite having the 3.2 ECU?

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Omega General Help / Re: Help with tech2 auto to manual conversion

« on: 15 December 2021, 21:00:10 »

It's a box tick in the menu.

In what menu? It is easy? Doesn't matter if you insert my chassis number? I have to chew it on them because they have no idea and they will charge me the same if they don't ...

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General Discussion Area / Re: Do you know how wide your car is?

« on: 15 December 2021, 20:56:40 »

Today's car hatred is insane. And the worst thing is the people who use the car to work and support these measures

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Got to agree with you there, it's a pipedream .

What the upper classes who can afford electric cars want is the “common- working class”:people have to go back onto their bicycles and onto buses as they, the toffs, move about freely, back to like it was during the first part of the 20th century.

Am I being cynical and not being fair?  Maybe, but who is helping most of us to easily obtain the save the planet vehicles and have the charging points required?  No one in the current government that’s for sure!

That's how it is . The funny thing is how it becomes clear that living like a poor person is cool