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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #1 on: 20 January 2022, 21:44:15 »

It was reported on GB News yesterday and the figure they quoted was 17,000 who died from Covid and had no other health issues.

Didn't see it reported on the BBC.  ::)
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #2 on: 20 January 2022, 21:49:36 »

Is that your surprised face?  :D
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #3 on: 20 January 2022, 21:51:33 »

copied and pasted  :)

Hospitals full to overflowing with people NEEDING treatment for Covid 19 meant that 175,000 excess deaths where recorded.

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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #4 on: 20 January 2022, 21:59:44 »

Thing is....the people with underlying conditions wouldn't have died (now) unless they caught covid, so I think this is a red herring. That's probably why it hasn't been reported.
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #5 on: 20 January 2022, 22:02:13 »

copied and pasted  :)

Hospitals full to overflowing with people NEEDING treatment for Covid 19 meant that 175,000 excess deaths where recorded.
If you get enough bandwidth under the mattress, you might watch the whole video...

127,704 is the discrepancy number against the five year average. And the average age of those who died solely from TCV is 82, which is towards the upper end of UK life expectancy.
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #6 on: 20 January 2022, 22:18:27 »

Thing is....the people with underlying conditions wouldn't have died (now) unless they caught covid, so I think this is a red herring. That's probably why it hasn't been reported.

Thing is... There were those who would have died anyway covid or not, but happened to have tested positive within 28 days of their death so of course they died of covid.  :-X
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #7 on: 20 January 2022, 22:20:51 »

Thing is....the people with underlying conditions wouldn't have died (now) unless they caught covid, so I think this is a red herring. That's probably why it hasn't been reported.

Thing is... There were those who would have died anyway covid or not, but happened to have tested positive within 28 days of their death so of course they died of covid.  :-X
Correct. So we can't say with any accuracy the actual number, but I think it's a lot more than 17,000.
I also don't really care  ;D
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #8 on: 20 January 2022, 22:30:25 »

copied and pasted  :)

Hospitals full to overflowing with people NEEDING treatment for Covid 19 meant that 175,000 excess deaths where recorded.
If you get enough bandwidth under the mattress, you might watch the whole video...

127,704 is the discrepancy number against the five year average. And the average age of those who died solely from TCV is 82, which is towards the upper end of UK life expectancy.
I've seen the video  ::)
maybe you should watch it again and TRY and understand the numbers


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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #9 on: 20 January 2022, 22:30:41 »

You could say any number you like & you can also believe anything you like so in reality it's all boll ocks. Who could actually be sure ?
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #10 on: 20 January 2022, 22:31:53 »

127,704 is the discrepancy number against the five year average. And the average age of those who died solely from TCV is 82, which is towards the upper end of UK life expectancy.

The average age of 82 is very similar to the normal average life expectancy. However, this is a bad thing. What it means is that the number of people who died only of Covid matches the normal distribution of UK deaths - which means that whatever your age is, your risk of dying only of Covid is increased by a similar amount.

It's also not "towards the upper end of UK life expectancy" since life expectancy is itself an average. Therefore as many people live to be older than 82 as die before 82.

IMV the 127K figure is as close as we're going to get to a true value for those who have died either of or because of Covid. If you have heart problems then that will likely be on your death certficate when you finally kick the bucket, but if well managed you may live for an extra 20-30 years. However, catch a respiratory diesese such as Covid and the extra stress on your heart and lungs could do for you fairly rapidly.
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #11 on: 20 January 2022, 22:35:21 »

Thing is....the people with underlying conditions wouldn't have died (now) unless they caught covid, so I think this is a red herring. That's probably why it hasn't been reported.

Thing is... There were those who would have died anyway covid or not, but happened to have tested positive within 28 days of their death so of course they died of covid.  :-X
Correct. So we can't say with any accuracy the actual number, but I think it's a lot more than 17,000.
I also don't really care  ;D
And don't start with the  :-X :-X, or I'll be thinking you've been listening to someone  ;D
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #12 on: 20 January 2022, 22:37:56 »

no one's even mentioned the bus that kills everyone testing positive yet so I guess I have too  :P
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #13 on: 20 January 2022, 22:40:07 »

127,704 is the discrepancy number against the five year average. And the average age of those who died solely from TCV is 82, which is towards the upper end of UK life expectancy.

The average age of 82 is very similar to the normal average life expectancy. However, this is a bad thing. What it means is that the number of people who died only of Covid matches the normal distribution of UK deaths - which means that whatever your age is, your risk of dying only of Covid is increased by a similar amount.

It's also not "towards the upper end of UK life expectancy" since life expectancy is itself an average. Therefore as many people live to be older than 82 as die before 82.

IMV the 127K figure is as close as we're going to get to a true value for those who have died either of or because of Covid. If you have heart problems then that will likely be on your death certficate when you finally kick the bucket, but if well managed you may live for an extra 20-30 years. However, catch a respiratory diesese such as Covid and the extra stress on your heart and lungs could do for you fairly rapidly.
I agree. When the inevitable public inquiry takes place, there will no doubt be stupid, unanswerable questions like 'How many lives were saved by locking down?'.
Who cares? It was/is a nasty virus that is responsible for a lot of deaths and those of us who have come through unscathed should be thankful, whether it's down to personal responsibility or just plain luck.
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Re: TCV ACTUALLY killed less than 20,000 people in the UK.
« Reply #14 on: 20 January 2022, 22:40:54 »

no one's even mentioned the bus that kills everyone testing positive yet so I guess I have too  :P
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