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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: STEMO on 19 March 2024, 11:40:37

Title: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: STEMO on 19 March 2024, 11:40:37

Unfortunately, it's now so secure that third party apps, like Intelligent Octopus, can't talk to it.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-13187171/aguar-Pace-owners-removed-Octopus-Intelligent-EV-charging-app-JLR-security-breach.html

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: ronnyd on 19 March 2024, 15:54:52

I noticed in the link, words such as "intelligent" and "smart" appear frequently. It seems anything but.  ;D

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 March 2024, 16:55:59

So glad to read that my 29.17p pkwh, plus 62.11p per day standing charge Octopus electricity tariff subsidises EV owners who enjoy a 7.5p pkwh tariff to charge their milk floats!  ::)

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 March 2024, 17:33:55

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 19 March 2024, 16:55:59

So glad to read that my 29.17p pkwh, plus 62.11p per day standing charge Octopus electricity tariff subsidises EV owners who enjoy a 7.5p pkwh tariff to charge their milk floats!  ::)

Roughly £56 a quarter even if you don't use much electricity. >:(

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 March 2024, 20:22:26

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 March 2024, 17:33:55

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 19 March 2024, 16:55:59

So glad to read that my 29.17p pkwh, plus 62.11p per day standing charge Octopus electricity tariff subsidises EV owners who enjoy a 7.5p pkwh tariff to charge their milk floats!  ::)

Roughly £56 a quarter even if you don't use much electricity. >:(

The wholesale cost of natural gas is about the same price as it was 3 years ago, so why haven't our energy bills dropped back to equivalent levels?  ???

The bastards even had the cheek to put prices up in January as well!  >:(

Think I'll complain to OFGEM!  Oh wait.....   ::) :-X

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 March 2024, 22:13:02

Anyway back to Uncle STEMO's article. I lifted the below from the comments section and I think it's a very good point!  :y

People seem to miss the point that this isn't only about the cost of charging a Jaguar EV.  It shows that a car you own can be controlled via software over which you have no control. If someone somewhere in power decides they don't want your car to work, they can just switch it off centrally. Tesla already has immense power over all the privately owned Teslas.  All Teslas come with all facilities but you have to pay Tesla to use certain features. This may sound innocuous as it is used now, but it's a massive power that could easily be misused and individuals will be powerless about it.

Conspiracy theory or fact?  ???

Now I love a good conspiracy theory mind!  ;D

Title: Re: JLR have improved security on their vehicles
Post by: TheBoy on 20 March 2024, 20:56:26

Pretty much any brand new mid range car will be similar