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[4x4]

Wasnt that the crank sensor symes gave you when we did cambelt change at his place?

[Webby the Bear]

Wasnt that the crank sensor symes gave you when we did cambelt change at his place?

It was mate. And very kind of him to donate it 

That was over a year ago tho

[Sir Tigger KC]

I had a crank sensor go a couple of years ago after fitting a new dispack.  I don't think the cables like being disturbed. 

[4x4]

I would be getting a new 1 ordered and kept in boot just incase 

[Webby the Bear]

I would be getting a new 1 ordered and kept in boot just incase 

Was at Vx today and enquired. £48 + VAT. Thought they were more in the £90-region 

[05omegav6]

They vary from engine to engine depending on build date

[dbug]

Any leaks from the fuel rail assembly collects in the V before evaporating. You would smell it in the car if it leaked whilst driving. If you can see it or smell it then it isn't leaking, simples

Double check any plugs that you moved just to be sure, but likely to be coincidence...

Agreed, but you wouldn't necessarily smell fuel if it was a leaking injector   Had exactly the same on a 2.5V6 - rarely started 1st time when cold, but always 2nd time.

[05omegav6]

My fuel leak was due to a perished injector seal which objected to being disturbed, and was quite obvious when a smell of fuel became apparant...

Unlikely in this case, as the only fuel components disturbed were the feed and return pipes to the fuel rail. The manifold was removed intact, and therefore will be leak free

[Webby the Bear]

Thanks guys as ever for your help, much appreciated! 

I'll keep an eye on it for now because since the job, it's only done it twice. If it starts cutting out I'll defo know what it is 

Thanks lads 

[terry paget]

Smell of fuel near filler would indicate corrosion in pump outlet pipe, which can cause your symptons.

[Webby the Bear]

Smell of fuel near filler would indicate corrosion in pump outlet pipe, which can cause your symptons.

Thanks Terry. Will give a sniff round the petrol cap to see if I can smell it. But at the moment (touching wood) she's ben fine 

[Webby the Bear]

Morning guys,

Not bumping the thread but have an update....

I changed the inlets / fuel rail for a known good one yesterday. Hasn't changed the symptoms at all.

Now, the car is only struggling to start first thing in morning. If I cycle key a few times it gets itself going. Then after that it starts every time.

I'm wondering now if the check valve in the fuel pump has gone? Obviously fuel pump itself is working fine cos otherwise it wouldn't run lol but if check valve is bad and the built up fuel is returning to the tank.

Thoughts?

[Webby the Bear]

Morning guys,

Not bumping the thread but have an update....

I changed the inlets / fuel rail for a known good one yesterday. Hasn't changed the symptoms at all.

Now, the car is only struggling to start first thing in morning. If I cycle key a few times it gets itself going. Then after that it starts every time.

I'm wondering now if the check valve in the fuel pump has gone? Obviously fuel pump itself is working fine cos otherwise it wouldn't run lol but if check valve is bad and the built up fuel is returning to the tank.

Thoughts?

One quick thing... I do have a slight vacuum leak between the throttle body and breather bridge.... bugger just wont seal. I put a load of black gasket sealer to seal it up. Could this perhaps be a cause of cold start issue?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Morning guys,

Not bumping the thread but have an update....

I changed the inlets / fuel rail for a known good one yesterday. Hasn't changed the symptoms at all.

Now, the car is only struggling to start first thing in morning. If I cycle key a few times it gets itself going. Then after that it starts every time.

I'm wondering now if the check valve in the fuel pump has gone? Obviously fuel pump itself is working fine cos otherwise it wouldn't run lol but if check valve is bad and the built up fuel is returning to the tank.

Thoughts?

So the question you have to ask yourself is, check valve or no check valve.....where would the air be getting in to let the fuel run back to the tank.

[Webby the Bear]

Morning guys,

Not bumping the thread but have an update....

I changed the inlets / fuel rail for a known good one yesterday. Hasn't changed the symptoms at all.

Now, the car is only struggling to start first thing in morning. If I cycle key a few times it gets itself going. Then after that it starts every time.

I'm wondering now if the check valve in the fuel pump has gone? Obviously fuel pump itself is working fine cos otherwise it wouldn't run lol but if check valve is bad and the built up fuel is returning to the tank.

Thoughts?

So the question you have to ask yourself is, check valve or no check valve.....where would the air be getting in to let the fuel run back to the tank.

Well, anywhere along the fuel line between tank and fuel rail? 

If, so I've double checked the two line connection to the fuel rail. I was under car yesterday and nowt wet at the fuel filter..... am I missing something obvious