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[Raeturbo]

America, (Americans) voted for the President it (they) deserve. 

(Can be attributed to a certain Canadian Female Stand up Comic)

You can take that any way you like.

In the same way that London(ers) has (have) always voted for the Major it(they) deserve.   

Out of interest, did you know that there are less people living in the UK (of all nationalities) than there are without access to ANY health care at all in the USA?  That Donald thinks he shouldn't fix this before twittering shite, kind of proves what a heartless bastard he is. Don't you think? It's OOF so probably not.

Last time anyone looked, the US was not a Socialist State and nor does it pretend to be...

They have a welfare system, it's simply different to ours and everyone is supported upto the age of 18, after that, you are reasonably expected to stand on your own two feet. Also, no one is denied medical treatment, it's simply that it has to be paid for at some point and the more you can afford the better that treatment is likely to be. The better your health insurance the less you will be charged... Hardly ground breaking stuff.

You have to understand how the US is structured in order to understand how it functions, for example several states don't levy income tax, yet are amongst the best places to live in terms of services provided and quality of life whilst some of the most heavily taxed states are either amongst the smallest (ie Connecticut) or poorest (usually very badly managed as well ie Michigan).

Everything that gets taken for granted in the UK is funded by our taxes, whether it's the NHS or social housing for pregnant teens. It's still not actually free by any definition 

Being a yellow livered lefty millennial, it comes as no surprise that you don't like President Trump or what he represents. I would go as far as to say it scares the bejesus out of you probably because you expect everything to be provided for you rather than having to actually bear the responsibility yourself.

Incidentally, American citizens privately contributed more foreign aid than their government, but you won't read that in the Guardian. Nor will you be told that some of the most philanthropic people on the planet are actually a) American and b) self made 'capitalist pigs' *

No wonder so many people hate what Trump represents... 

*to coin a Socialist phrase.

I would suggest that you obtain and read Everyday Millionaires by Chris Hogan. It's also available as an audio book if reading isn't your 'thing'.

.                                                       Excellent post!

[Lizzie Zoom]

Its not even a case of WE pay for it anymore . Its gone way beyond that. What we are spending now will have to be paid for by a generation who wont even be born when we die. Which is irresponsible in the extreme.
It simply cant carry on like this. Something has to change.

Yes. and how true that is Migv6

[Lizzie Zoom]

What I touched on in my post agreeing to DG's excellent summary was the dramatically increasing health care costs in the States, which actually has been increased by the Obama Health Care plan, hence the Trump demand to look seriously at the reform policy.

You can read this great report on some of this complex issue:

https://www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs-4064878

and the explanation of the Reforms if you are studying it, as I have now briefly done:
https://www.healthcare-management-degree.net/faq/what-is-obama-care-healthcare-reform/

but I particularly noted the following statement:

"In 2017, U.S. health care costs were $3.5 trillion. That makes health care one of the country's largest industries. It equals 17.9 percent of gross domestic product.

This is for a population of 330 million

Now compare this against this statement about the UK's NHS (covering a population of 67 million):

"Total health spending in England was around £125 billion in 2017/18 and was expected to rise to over £127 billion by 2019/20, taking inflation into account.

In 2017/18 around £110 billion was spent on the NHS England budget. The rest was spent by the Department of Health on things like public health initiatives, education, training, and infrastructure (including IT and building new hospitals)."


Without analysing these figures too closely, and not adding various factors like the Insurance companies involvement in the USA, you can see on the face of it the differences of scale!!

That is what Trump, or any other US President has to deal with when touching on their health care issue!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

And it isn't just about money. Gordon Brown more than doubled the NHS budget and made the whole thing worse in the process.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Here's a good article and pretty much what we're talking about. 

Linky

[Raeturbo]

Good one.    And Gordon Brown?  Anybody mention gold?...........

[Sir Tigger KC]

Good one.    And Gordon Brown?  Anybody mention gold?...........

A solid gold loser!   

[Lizzie Zoom]

Here's a good article and pretty much what we're talking about. 

Linky

Very good article!!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Good one.    And Gordon Brown?  Anybody mention gold?...........

A solid gold loser!   

Or a Stone Gold Loser!   

[Raeturbo]

Or a 7 billion loser !