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[Mr Skrunts]

Seeing a lot of posts on social media about towns in our area changeing the roads to accomadate cycling lanes.

I dont begrudge them thier own space at all, but some of the proposals are leaving less space for road users that generally use the road properly and pay Tax/MOT and insurance for the right to do so.

A lot of cyclists abuse the highway  code, have no certification to use the road and dont pay insurance.

[cam.in.head]

and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !

[Nick W]

and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !

There are several good reasons why we don't.


The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.

[Doctor Gollum]

I would take that up with the cabbage munching Snowflakes that designed them...

[Varche]

I saw a brilliant newly completed narrow cycle lane here in Spain ,  in the middle between the lanes. There was a lampost bang in the middle. So it is not just a British problem.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

A lot of cyclists abuse the highway  code, have no certification to use the road and dont pay insurance.

You've never driven in Middlesbrough, have you?

[Nick W]

I would take that up with the cabbage munching Snowflakes that designed them...

They are the same people that can't design roads for traffic.

[ronnyd]

and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !

There are several good reasons why we don't.


The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.
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and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !

There are several good reasons why we don't.


The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that t

and some donteven use cycle lanes when theyre there for them !

There are several good reasons why we don't.


The main one is that many of them are so badly designed and maintained that they are dangerous.

Totally agree Nick, Sustrans gets the money to put the cycle ways in initially, but then there is little or no funds for the upkeep. Many around here are totally overgrown and are now under half the original width due to spreading vegetation. Also, the markings of the ones in town have virtually disappeared and the surfaces are dangerous with potholes and debris from the traffic.

[YZ250]

In the village where I grew up, the local council or highways pandered to the ‘Pedestrian and cycling action group’ and put a cycle lane where a cycle lane wouldn’t fit. That didn’t bother them, they just separated an already narrow road with another white dashed line for the cyclists. You couldn’t pass a cyclist without going in to the other lane anyway so nothing has changed. Near the centre of the village they then separated the cyclists from vehicles with a massive line of bollards.

Photo No.1 shows the width of the road and the dashed, shared space, cycle lane, splitting the lane in half. You can see the lines under the bus.
Photo No.2 shows the start of the bollards that separate the cyclists from vehicles.
Photo No.3 shows how they narrowed the lane so much with the white line and bollards that a vehicle doesn’t even fit in the lane, so vehicles have no option but to cross the road markings.
Who the hell comes up with this sort of shite. 
 

[ronnyd]

In the village where I grew up, the local council or highways pandered to the ‘Pedestrian and cycling action group’ and put a cycle lane where a cycle lane wouldn’t fit. That didn’t bother them, they just separated an already narrow road with another white dashed line for the cyclists. You couldn’t pass a cyclist without going in to the other lane anyway so nothing has changed. Near the centre of the village they then separated the cyclists from vehicles with a massive line of bollards.

Photo No.1 shows the width of the road and the dashed, shared space, cycle lane, splitting the lane in half. You can see the lines under the bus.
Photo No.2 shows the start of the bollards that separate the cyclists from vehicles.
Photo No.3 shows how they narrowed the lane so much with the white line and bollards that a vehicle doesn’t even fit in the lane, so vehicles have no option but to cross the road markings.
Who the hell comes up with this sort of shite. 
 

Who in Gods name sanctioned that configuration in pic 3. 

[raywilb]

i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.








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[Sir Tigger KC]

i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.

Ze Germans always follow ze rules!   

[Nick W]

i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.

Ze Germans always follow ze rules! 

That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.

[Sir Tigger KC]

i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.

Ze Germans always follow ze rules! 

That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.

No I think Ze Germans would obey and follow the lines and signs if they took them over a cliff! 

[Raeturbo]

i worked in Germany & the cycle lanes seemed to be designed not to interfere with cars & such, paths were wide enough for them in the towns & cities & also when crossing roads the traffic lights displayed a green bicycle for them to cross. schools started a lot earlier than they do in the UK so in a city like Munich would have loads of bikes including 50cc mopeds in cycle lanes ,on footpaths & i don,t recall anyone abusing the system.

               
Ze Germans always follow ze rules! 

That's much easier to do when the rules have some sense behind them. Painting some random lines on the road and chucking a few signs along the pavement does not make worthwhile a cycle lane. It's a politician's 'solution'; spend some money, get a physical thing and take the credit before you lose your seat.

                 Yes as long as they tick the box this bunch of jokers think it’s ok