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Title: Fiesta ST
Post by: BazaJT on 17 January 2018, 19:21:51
The new 2018 one will have the 3cylinder engine that cuts down to 2 when the 3rd is not needed :o.It will according to the figures published put out 200PS[whatever they are]There are 3 selectable driving modes Normal,Sport and Track,each one comes with what Ford term ESE-electronic sound enhancement-which alters the exhaust note for "enhanced"driving pleasure :D ;D
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: STEMO on 17 January 2018, 19:30:19
200PS is about 197bhp.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Mr Gav on 17 January 2018, 23:06:41
The new 2018 one will have the 3cylinder engine that cuts down to 2 when the 3rd is not needed :o.It will according to the figures published put out 200PS[whatever they are]There are 3 selectable driving modes Normal,Sport and Track,each one comes with what Ford term ESE-electronic sound enhancement-which alters the exhaust note for "enhanced"driving pleasure :D ;D

The latest 370z`s have that, which is just wrong in a 3.7l V6 car  :(

It has to be disabled by a dealer too  >:(
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 January 2018, 11:54:37
200PS is about 197bhp.

I always think of PS as German BHP. But our BHP is bigger than their PS. :)
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: zirk on 18 January 2018, 19:01:52
The new 2018 one will have the 3cylinder engine that cuts down to 2 when the 3rd is not needed :o.It will according to the figures published put out 200PS[whatever they are]There are 3 selectable driving modes Normal,Sport and Track,each one comes with what Ford term ESE-electronic sound enhancement-which alters the exhaust note for "enhanced"driving pleasure :D ;D
Im sure thats going to sound good when its firing on 2 pots.  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 January 2018, 19:18:43
The new 2018 one will have the 3cylinder engine that cuts down to 2 when the 3rd is not needed :o.It will according to the figures published put out 200PS[whatever they are]There are 3 selectable driving modes Normal,Sport and Track,each one comes with what Ford term ESE-electronic sound enhancement-which alters the exhaust note for "enhanced"driving pleasure :D ;D
Im sure thats going to sound good when its farting on 2 pots.  ;D ::)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: STEMO on 18 January 2018, 19:29:21
Two pots? How’s that going to work without being rough as a bears arse? Flywheel the size of the London Eye?
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 January 2018, 20:05:41
Two pots? How’s that going to work without being rough as a bears arse? Flywheel the size of the London Eye?
Probably by firing any two of the three cylinders every rotation...  :-\
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: henryd on 18 January 2018, 21:05:05
I drove a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta today,64 plate and have to say it drove brilliantly,it would jump over my 1.6 focus from a few years earlier
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 January 2018, 23:47:38
Two pots? How’s that going to work without being rough as a bears arse? Flywheel the size of the London Eye?

People are used to diseasels these days. Anything's possible. ;)
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: zirk on 19 January 2018, 00:13:41
Two pots? How’s that going to work without being rough as a bears arse? Flywheel the size of the London Eye?
The cylinder only shuts down when decelerating or under very low power rolling cruise requirement, as soon as you give it the slightness of gas increase it instantly switches back to normal.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 January 2018, 08:07:30
I drove a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta today,64 plate and have to say it drove brilliantly,it would jump over my 1.6 focus from a few years earlier

They are great in the Fiesta, not so good in the Focus or Mondeo (which is a bonkers place to put them).

Have you tried the GM equivalent in the Corsa, much smoother and better power delivery (balance shafts etc. make a big difference)
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 January 2018, 08:08:44
Two pots? How’s that going to work without being rough as a bears arse? Flywheel the size of the London Eye?
The cylinder only shuts down when decelerating or under very low power rolling cruise requirement, as soon as you give it the slightness of gas increase it instantly switches back to normal.

But every fuel injected car for the last 25+ years has shut all cylinders down when decelerating?

So the only gain is very occasionally, when cruising, it pops another on off (isn't marketing great)  :y
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: henryd on 19 January 2018, 11:48:05
I drove a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta today,64 plate and have to say it drove brilliantly,it would jump over my 1.6 focus from a few years earlier

They are great in the Fiesta, not so good in the Focus or Mondeo (which is a bonkers place to put them).

Have you tried the GM equivalent in the Corsa, much smoother and better power delivery (balance shafts etc. make a big difference)

I've heard that the Vauxhall 3 pot is good but not tried one yet
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 19 January 2018, 13:21:37
Driven a 3 cylinder Dahatsiu surprisingly it went okay.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 January 2018, 13:51:39
I wonder about the longevity of a small engine with a high specific output.

Great when new but.................. :(
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 January 2018, 16:05:02
Then again, engines that are looked after generally outlast the bodywork on modern cars (especially Fiestas!) so why not shift the balance back a little?
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: henryd on 19 January 2018, 16:20:01
I wonder about the longevity of a small engine with a high specific output.

Great when new but.................. :(

Customer of mine has just traded in his 04 Polo 1.4 tdi,290,00 miles done and engine still strong :y
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: BazaJT on 19 January 2018, 19:38:53
Local Ford stealer has replaced two engines in nearly new Fiestas[both cars had service history and were still under warranty]this week alone.Mind you they've also replaced a powershift gearbox in a Galaxy under warranty too.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Rods2 on 21 January 2018, 01:59:21
3 cylinders are good (IME aka Triumph Trident) with primary & secondary balance with 120o crankshaft spacing and all pistons changing direction at different times and 120o firing angle. I'm personally a big fan of 3-cylinder engines, even better are straight 6's (V6's so,so) and then we move on to V8's and especially V12's :) :) :) :y :y :y
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2018, 11:17:58
I drove a 1.0 ecoboost fiesta today,64 plate and have to say it drove brilliantly,it would jump over my 1.6 focus from a few years earlier
Ignoring economy for a second, even in a Focus, the 1l turbo far better than the old 1.6l - but then that 1.6 (and the 1.8) were pretty rubbish, even in their day, for power.

Downside of the little turbo, is the economy is poor, because you have to rag the tits off it everywhere.
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: BazaJT on 21 January 2018, 13:24:39
I must have been way ahead of my time as I've had a few 4 pots that'd cut to 3 regularly :D :D I did once-back in the '70s have a 3 pot motor.It was a Wartburg Knight estate 3cyl two stroke with a separate coil for each cylinder and a freewheel device on it :y
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 January 2018, 14:36:47
I must have been way ahead of my time as I've had a few 4 pots that'd cut to 3 regularly :D :D I did once-back in the '70s have a 3 pot motor.It was a Wartburg Knight estate 3cyl two stroke with a separate coil for each cylinder and a freewheel device on it :y


That must have been a real crumpet-catcher, Mr Baza. ;)

A haze of 2 stroke smoke must have followed you everywhere. :D
Title: Re: Fiesta ST
Post by: BazaJT on 21 January 2018, 18:28:40
Not much of a crumpet catcher Opti,but being the estate once there they could be persuaded to linger a while :D :D :D ::) It could be encouraged to be fairly quick off the line,then people couldn't easily catch me as they were driving in a "fog" of blue smoke ;D ;D