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[Mr Skrunts]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

Are you saying Dysons suck 

that's their job 

for sub £50 ,you can replace the motor, brush bar, belt , both filters in an hour on DC02 , DC04 ,DC07 or DC14

I don't know about the newer models  as my old ones WORK 

I wouldn't by a battery "hoover" ,much like an electric car .I'd get "range anxiety" 

I only bought the Shark because the only Dysons available were cordless and thier call centre was usless.

[dave the builder]

I only bought the Shark because the only Dysons available were cordless and thier call centre was usless.

It's to "save the planet" 
appliances must be low wattage ,so small motors , so cordless for convenience 

the fact is that the batteries die, the new "hoovers" have been designed to be non DIY serviceable  ,must get the newest one from the TV advert etc

so ,most will go to landfill once the warranty runs out

unlike a corded 20 year old Dyson that sucks 

all adds to "global warming " which is nice  saves having to put the heating on 

[biggriffin]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

[Mr Skrunts]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henry and the Numatic Range of wet/dry vacs was our choice when I had a valeting company in the 90s.  They were easily draged around in any direction, easy to empty and keep clean.

Only thing that ever went wrong was a burnt out motor that was easy to replace or the tools got damaned by one of the muppets. lads

The main thing is they were competivly priced.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henry and the Numatic Range of wet/dry vacs was our choice when I had a valeting company in the 90s.  They were easily draged around in any direction, easy to empty and keep clean.

Only thing that ever went wrong was a burnt out motor that was easy to replace or the tools got damaned by one of the muppets. lads

The main thing is they were competivly priced.

Made in England as well! 

Unlike other brands they haven't outsourced their manufacturing to China. The Numatic factory is in Chard, Somerset. 

[dave the builder]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henrys have their place 
but they are drag along , so no rotating brush bar for carpet,ok for hard floors.
 bags are a faf and suction is reduced when bags clog,
motors are twice the price of Dyson Chinesium ones,
you can get new motor brushes for Henry and Dyson ,
 but lets be honest, who remembers to replace motor brushes before the motor is doing a "toasty Tesla impression" ? 

Why my interest in "hoovers"    I make a mess, dust etc 
I have to clean up said mess .
i've learnt NOT to use anyone else's "hoover" ,you end up having to fix or replace it 

[STEMO]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

Henrys have their place 
but they are drag along , so no rotating brush bar for carpet,ok for hard floors.
 bags are a faf and suction is reduced when bags clog,
motors are twice the price of Dyson Chinesium ones,
you can get new motor brushes for Henry and Dyson ,
 but lets be honest, who remembers to replace motor brushes before the motor is doing a "toasty Tesla impression" ? 

Why my interest in "hoovers"    I make a mess, dust etc 
I have to clean up said mess .
i've learnt NOT to use anyone else's "hoover" ,you end up having to fix or replace it 

My Henry has several tools, including a very powerful brush bar. Bags never clog if changed in time. As I said earlier, it will pick up anything, including stones and leaves.

[Nick W]

Hoovers,, buy a Henry.  Look at Professional cleaners use, they won't use Dyson or Shark it's either a Henry or some German make.

We found that Henrys were the only cleaners the window fitters didn't destroy in minutes. The preferred method for the ones that were, was falling out the back of the van on the way home from the job

[Doctor Gollum]

And if you're buying Henry's that require bags, then you're clearly buying the wrong model.

A proper Henry is simply tipped out to empty filled by a wipe out if required. The filter simply gets the dust knocked off it and if you're feeling particularly posh you can wash it once a month.

[TheBoy]

Which is about all a Dyson is fit for. They are the perfect example of marketing over quality. 

There is a perfectly good reason why tool hire shops hire out Dyson vacuums.  And it ain't marketing

Kick backs, tax write offs and consumer preference based on, er, marketing 

Or, from the horses mouth, reliability, durability, repairability and ready availability of parts when a tradesman reverses over it with their van...

[TheBoy]

Oh, and most importantly, performance.

[TheBoy]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

[STEMO]

And if you're buying Henry's that require bags, then you're clearly buying the wrong model.

A proper Henry is simply tipped out to empty filled by a wipe out if required. The filter simply gets the dust knocked off it and if you're feeling particularly posh you can wash it once a month.

Oh do be quiet, Biggles 

[Andy B]

Dysan motor to clutch belt deffo needs sorting, just a large piece of junk sat in the corner at the moment but a far better vac the Shark that was going to replace it.

well worth keeping a CORDED Dyson going 
parts are east to get ,and relatively easy to replace

Unlike the Shark offerings , no parts available and deliberately designed to stop DIY repair 

i've still got 2 DC03s ,2 DC04s ,1 DC07 (20 years old ,still sucks like a $5 hooker)   and 2 DC14s

I should really replace the cable on ours .... the outer insulation is split in places, especially the bits that continually get wrapped around the cable tidy bits.

I's on my ''to-do'' list 

[STEMO]

I have a pair of battery Dysons as well, both V8's. Despite my initial reservations before getting them, I have to say they do work for day to day vacuuming.  Given the amount of dust we get here, I have a vacuum out round some part of the house daily.

But we still have the corded vacuums for those days when you move the furniture and clean properly.

The batteries on the V8 are "almost good enough", and last about 20 mins on normal setting with a motorised brush bar.  Or about 15m on max mode with a crevice tool.  Which is usually good enough to do a quick vacuum of entire house, or vac the car.

The battery inevitably fails after 3 or 4 years (not bad, seeing ours live on their charging docks), but there are plenty of chinky replacements for £25, and they are easy to change, like most Dyson parts.

Move the furniture? I do that when we get a new carpet.